'This is not a cricket pitch, this is dangerous'

[sarcastic]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/22220875/wanderers-track

 

We might as well be very frustrated about the match result being a draw (if no play resumes tomorrow) instead of a memorable Indian victory but there have been reports about this pitch even before the Elgar's incident happened. For those who can access the video can see it on Cricinfo. Also, it is probably dangerous and we will not want a Phil Hughes kind of incident repeat again too!!!!!!! 

 

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"Two out of 100 [is my rating for the pitch]. It's a s**t pitch. You can interpret that. They should have called it off when Vijay got hit. This is not a cricket pitch, this is dangerous. Call it off, forget it. You can't play cricket on that. I have no idea what has gone wrong but I know it's not a good cricket pitch. The last time I saw something like this, the match was abandoned - in Jamaica 1998, and it didn't even last this long."
Michael Holding, the former West Indies fast bowler and television commentator present at the Wanderers Test

What the ICC's regulations say

• 6.2 Fitness of pitch for play: The umpires shall be the sole judges of the fitness of the pitch for play.

• 6.4 Changing the pitch: The pitch shall not be changed during the match unless the umpires decide that it is dangerous or unreasonable for play to continue on it and then only with the consent of both captains.

• 6.4.1 If the on-field umpires decide that it is dangerous or unreasonable for play to continue on the match pitch, they shall stop play and immediately advise the ICC Match Referee.

• 6.4.2 The on-field umpires and the ICC Match Referee shall then consult with both captains.

• 6.4.3 If the captains agree to continue, play shall resume.

• 6.4.4 If the decision is not to resume play, the on-field umpires together with the ICC Match Referee shall consider whether the existing pitch can be repaired and the match resumed from the point it was stopped. In considering whether to authorise such repairs, the ICC Match Referee must consider whether this would place either side at an unfair advantage, given the play that had already taken place on the dangerous pitch.

• 6.4.5 If the decision is that the existing pitch cannot be repaired, then the match is to be abandoned as a draw.

"The unfortunate thing is that nobody minds movement off the surface, but it's the uneven bounce that's the problem and it is quite dangerous from a batting point of view when you have pace attacks bowling around the 140 mark, tall bowlers hitting the deck hard. It is dangerous and it's not ideal. I have seen pitches like this around the world but, as we keep saying, you want a good contest between bat and ball and this one is not providing that. I'd give it a 3 out of 10."
Kepler Wessels, the former South Africa captain and television commentator present at the Wanderers Test "

"When you have the physio coming on the field so often to attend to injuries received by batsmen on their hands and chest, we are certainly in the territory of keeping an eye on this pitch and see if it's dangerous."
Sanjay Manjrekar, the former India batsman and television commentator covering the Wanderers Test

"It's certainly not a good pitch for Test cricket. It's the worst Test pitch I've seen at the Wanderers. However, I don't think it's a pitch worth abandoning the match for. Scoreboard still reads 100 for 3 in the third innings, so there are still runs being scored. Rating: 4.5/10."
Daryll Cullinan, the former South Africa batsman and ESPNcricinfo expert present at the Wanderers Test

"It's not the ideal pitch. As a batsman you want the bounce to be consistent. The bounce on this pitch has made it unplayable for batting. [But] I think we should see how it plays for another session [after lunch on day three] before deciding on whether to call it off.
Sunil Gavaskar, the former India captain and television commentator present at the Wanderers Test

"To play test cricket on this surface is unfair. Saw it in NZ in 2003. Batsman have minimum chance. ICC should look into it."
Sourav Ganguly, the former India captain on Twitter

"Naughty pitch. Yeah, misbehaving and how. Not good for cricket. Not done, ICC must look into it."
Harbhajan Singh, the former India spinner on Twitter

"Groundsman in SA need to get together and have a bit of a chat. This is a terrible Test wicket. All we want in SA is a little movement and pace and bounce. This is ridiculous!!"
Paul Harris, the former South Africa spinner on Twitter

 

"This pitch at Wanderers is getting dangerous... I am quite happy sitting in my room [rather] than playing on that pile of c**p facing those bowlers! #beentheredonethat #windies"
Dean Jones, the former Australia batsman on Twitter

"It's quite a spicy wicket. No one can hide from the fact that you can get out every ball. By the same token, it's challenging as a batsman. Sometimes we get onto wickets that are pretty flat and you can score lots of runs. [Here] it is just quite difficult to bat. Whether its too excessive or not, if you ask a batsman what do you think they will say?"
Hashim Amla, the South Africa batsman after play on day two

"Some balls are up and down, so that could be dangerous sometimes for the batsman. But we are not focusing on those things right now. We feel the match is in the balance right now."
Jasprit Bumrah, the India bowler after play on day two

 

 

[kubrickian]

India scored 247 on this very same pitch, so its not as impossible as they make it seem. SA should man up and come out to bat, cop a few blows and if you cant handle the heat, give your wickets away and let India be the deserved winner.

[MechEng]

Holding 

 

Isn't he the same guy who considers modern batsmen as flat track bullies and Viv as the greatest of all, because he was brave enough to never wear a helmet and face fast bowlers?

[MechEng]

On 1/26/2018 at 11:22 AM, BeardedAladdin said:

He is a house moron

 

Ever wondered why these west indians accept knighthoods? Good old subjects of the british empire.

I clearly remember 'Fire In Babylon' documentary, the incident in 1976 when Bedi took his team off the ground because Windies bowlers were bowling hostile stuff to tail. The West Indian players in that documentary criticised Indians to be cowards for not dealing with fast bowling, at first I sort of agreed with them because I always considered West Indies of 80s to be superior in mental toughness to play test cricket. But now I can see clear double standards on display.

[sandeep]

18 minutes ago, BeardedAladdin said:

He is a house negro.

 

Ever wondered why these west indians accept knighthoods? Good old subjects of the british empire.

Please refrain from racist claptrap.   I'm sure you'd go running to accept any award whether its from the British Empire or the Saudis.   

[Deleted_User_1]

20 minutes ago, BeardedAladdin said:

He is a house negro.

 

Ever wondered why these west indians accept knighthoods? Good old subjects of the british empire.

Do you phucking have to resort to racist references like this? You can make you point without this crap. Disgusting!!!

[sandeep]

7 minutes ago, BeardedAladdin said:

Not really. As an Indian, that validation is worthless to me because im not one of them. Simple

 

Nothing i said is racist, its 100% accurate. Its an observation.

 

West indians seek gora validation because they lack self sufficiency. They never challenged the status quo or ever attempted to influence the game the way India did. Holding is their token black guy.

And you apparently like to resort to prejudiced tropes to cover up your blatant ignorance and personal insecurities.  

 

You are entitled to think what you want.  But please refrain from littering this shared space on the internet with trash.   

Edited January 26, 2018 by sandeep

[sandeep]

1 minute ago, BeardedAladdin said:

We're discussing holding's insecurities, we're trying to pin point where it comes from. Its a talking point on the forum in light of today's events, i gave my theory.

 

Please don't antagonise me for no reason. If you disagree, just ignore me and move on. I give others the same courtesy when i disagree with their views.

Agreed.  I don't want to antagonize you, or anyone else.   And we can agree to disagree about a million things with courtesy.  But can't let your blatantly racist remark go unchallenged.   

[TheWall]

Holding is holding a bucket to saffers...

[SLICKR392]

This is a cricket pitch which has got cracks on it. Not the first time- Warner was hit off the crack from length at Kotla in 2013 but the guy held on. Whereas Elgar De Niro fails to put his bat on the ball against a short ball that came off a short length.

[Gollum]

25 minutes ago, BeardedAladdin said:

Not really. As an Indian, that validation is worthless to me because im not one of them. Simple

 

Nothing i said is racist, its 100% accurate. Its an observation.

 

West indians seek gora validation because they lack self sufficiency. They never challenged the status quo or ever attempted to influence the game the way India did. Holding is their token black guy.

Bhai not all West Indians seek gora validation. Look at Ian Bishop or Lara or Richards, perfectly normal people. Bucknor and Holding are exceptions, what you said about Holding is racist but I agree with your assessment. He reminds me of Stephen from Django Unchained.