Does Rohit have what it takes to open overseas against quality pace attacks?

[mancalledsting]

Controversial topic but I have felt this about Rohit for a while (haven't run a statistical check), I don't think he has the technique to be an effective opener overseas against good quality seam attacks. He is overly defensive and saps momentum away from the rest of the lineup. He struggles with the moving ball (e.g. Amir in CT Final) when conditions suit and struggles to hit back of a length deliveries. Already in the game during the first over to More Morkel, two half volleys were bowled but because he's camping on back foot he didn't have the confidence to go on the front foot and punish the loose deliveries. I know its sad to think this because our middle order is really poor at the moment and our opening 3 are our main strength, but I think compared to other countries e.g. England, Rohit weakens the attacking potential of our top 3. As I type he hits a beautiful six...lol! Don't feel he does that often enough though...I hope he continues to prove me wrong today

Edited February 1, 2018 by mancalledsting

[Trichromatic]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/8676/scorecard/754749/australia-vs-india-2nd-match-carlton-mid-odi-tri-series-2014-15/

[mancalledsting]

3 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/8676/scorecard/754749/australia-vs-india-2nd-match-carlton-mid-odi-tri-series-2014-15/

I watched this innings live and had it in mind before typing, don't think he produces effective knocks often enough (in the context mentioned)

Edited February 1, 2018 by mancalledsting

[mancalledsting]

if you watch his innings today, it's the reason why he doesnt attack in ODIs overseas against good pace attacks because every time he does, he struggles. Today's dismissal was a horrible shot, trying to hit an outswinger to the leg side (so much technically wrong with that). 

[sarcastic]

@mancalledsting, I think we are getting the answer in this series. We already saw one complete innings by RGS. Let us wait for 5 more. 

[mancalledsting]

1 minute ago, sarcastic said:

@mancalledsting, I think we are getting the answer in this series. We already saw one complete innings by RGS. Let us wait for 5 more. 

look I really want him to kick on and do well, but sadly I think you're right

[NameGoesHere]

I have no love for the guy, but I thought he was going well today before he holed out.

[mancalledsting]

1 minute ago, NameGoesHere said:

I have no love for the guy, but I thought he was going well today before he holed out.

I have no personal love for him either, its just Indian ODI batting lineup is really unstable at the moment and we need all players to step up

[Mosher]

Pace and bounce doesn't trouble Rohit but just a hint of movement and he is a sitting duck.

[mancalledsting]

Just now, Mosher said:

Pace and bounce doesn't trouble Rohit but just a hint of movement and he is a sitting duck.

agree with regards to not losing his wicket, but in terms of being able to attack, back of a length bowling in ODIs seems to be enough to subdue his strike rate...too easy for people like Morne

[Laaloo]

Not sure yet but yeah he doesn't have many innings against a good pace attack. This series should be a defining point.

[express bowling]

Here is how Rohit has fared against Australia, England , SA, NZ and Pakistan in ODIs played out of Asia

 

 

 

Career averages

	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
unfiltered	2007-2018	175	169	26	6444	264	45.06	7407	86.99	16	34	11	553	164	Profile
filtered	2007-2018	43	41	4	1369	171*	37.00	1757	77.91	3	6	3	107	37

 

 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/34102.html?class=2;filter=advanced;host=1;host=2;host=29;host=3;host=4;host=5;host=9;opposition=1;opposition=2;opposition=3;opposition=5;opposition=7;orderby=default;template=results;type=batting

 

 

[Trichromatic]

37 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Here is how Rohit has fared against Australia, England , SA, NZ and Pakistan in ODIs played out of Asia

 

 

 

Career averages

	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
unfiltered	2007-2018	175	169	26	6444	264	45.06	7407	86.99	16	34	11	553	164	Profile
filtered	2007-2018	43	41	4	1369	171*	37.00	1757	77.91	3	6	3	107	37

 

 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/34102.html?class=2;filter=advanced;host=1;host=2;host=29;host=3;host=4;host=5;host=9;opposition=1;opposition=2;opposition=3;opposition=5;opposition=7;orderby=default;template=results;type=batting

 

 

As an opener

Career averages

	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
unfiltered	2007-2018	175	169	26	6444	264	45.06	7407	86.99	16	34	11	553	164	Profile
filtered	2011-2018	28	27	1	1106	171*	42.53	1363	81.14	3	5	2	88	35

Career summary

Grouping	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
v Australia	2015-2016	7	7	1	613	171*	102.16	621	98.71	3	1	0	45	20
v England	2013-2014	2	2	0	61	52	30.50	101	60.39	0	1	0	5	1
v New Zealand	2014-2014	5	5	0	145	79	29.00	202	71.78	0	1	0	9	9
v Pakistan	2013-2017	4	4	0	124	91	31.00	174	71.26	0	1	1	11	2
v South Africa	2011-2018	10	9	0	163	65	18.11	265	61.50	0	1	1	18	3

 

 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/34102.html?batting_positionmax1=2;batting_positionval1=batting_position;class=2;filter=advanced;host=1;host=2;host=29;host=3;host=4;host=5;host=9;opposition=1;opposition=2;opposition=3;opposition=5;opposition=7;orderby=default;template=results;type=batting

 

 

[velu]

flt track bully 

[Pollack]

1 hour ago, Mosher said:

Pace and bounce doesn't trouble Rohit but just a hint of movement and he is a sitting duck.

Apart from swing, he does not seem to judge lengths properly too. So much for being called talented.

[Nikhil_cric]

Never felt comfortable with him opening. After Rahane's good show, I think we should open with Rahane. I think he can handle swing and survive and score. 

[ThePhenomenal1]

Like the above post says id open with rahane and at least he can get those singles, 2s and 4s rather than hit and miss rohit. 

 

But team will never drop rohit.

[Deleted_User_1]

Against a good pace attack on a overseas pitch with some juice and under lights, you have to have some technique to see off the moving ball before you can launch an attack. He is not a technically competent batsman. 

[CoverDrive]

I think he should be fine as now Aus and Eng are flatter than India. It is about scoring 300+ for which we need him settled. 

Edited February 2, 2018 by CoverDrive

[jf1gp_1]

Odi tracks across world encourage stroke making and he is perfect.