PSB_Zone Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 First thing I want to clear that I am not a dhoni blind supporter but there is a logic why should he still be in team as he is still contributing towards this indian victory run. 1)With two wrist spinners as our trump card, we need a specialist shrewd experinced keeper who could read the game, guide the spinners as well as read the spinners of the hand for stumpings.. There is no one in the country that is better then dhoni there. WITH spinners the role of wicketkeeper is as good as a captain. 2)Yes pant has more firepower and he would not stall the game at no. 5 but he is still learning to be consistent. We tend to compare dhoni with his former self but we hv to realize that he is not playing as a pure batsmen and hence he should only be judged as a wicket-keeper batsmen. 3)This odi run definitely would hv valuble inputs from dhoni in planning department ahead of the game 4)So till we can find any exceptional wicketkeeper batsman dhoni can just about be in the team.. I wont say he is an integral part but his contribution as of now is just enough to be in the team. kira, Shunya, SG1994 and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment
Khota Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Dhoni is done. Rest are all excuses. Suhaan, Laaloo, speedheat and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment
gakgupta Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 14 minutes ago, PSB_Zone said: First thing I want to clear that I am not a dhoni blind supporter but there is a logic why should he still be in team as he is still contributing towards this indian victory run. 1)With two wrist spinners as our trump card, we need a specialist shrewd experinced keeper who could read the game, guide the spinners as well as read the spinners of the hand for stumpings.. There is no one in the country that is better then dhoni there. WITH spinners the role of wicketkeeper is as good as a captain. 2)Yes pant has more firepower and he would not stall the game at no. 5 but he is still learning to be consistent. We tend to compare dhoni with his former self but we hv to realize that he is not playing as a pure batsmen and hence he should only be judged as a wicket-keeper batsmen. 3)This odi run definitely would hv valuble inputs from dhoni in planning department ahead of the game 4)So till we can find any exceptional wicketkeeper batsman dhoni can just about be in the team.. I wont say he is an integral part but his contribution as of now is just enough to be in the team. Agree to certain extent..... Until we have exceptional Wk-keeper-batsmen....do we have a choice? PSB_Zone and Shunya 1 1 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Why can't Pant play at no 6 or no 7 with Dhoni at no 4? Why Pant has to be excluded for Dhoni? Suhaan, speedheat and Laaloo 3 Link to comment
Mosher Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Exceptional WK batsman don't fall out of the skies. They have to be groomed. Already selectors have wasted so much time with ttf's like Karthik as backup keeper. Pant should have been a regular now. MCcricket, speedheat, Laaloo and 2 others 5 Link to comment
gakgupta Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Mosher said: Exceptional WK batsman don't fall out of the skies. They have to be groomed. Already selectors have wasted so much time with ttf's like Karthik as backup keeper. Pant should have been a regular now. I was so excited about Pant after first season but he fell flat after second season... That's what will happen to lot of players...after couple of good seasons, their weakness will be found out and exploited. Pant failed this acid-test...Not that he will not rise-up. But he has to do that and then he will deserve the intl call Rasgulla and Shunya 2 Link to comment
Mosher Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) 26 minutes ago, gakgupta said: I was so excited about Pant after first season but he fell flat after second season... That's what will happen to lot of players...after couple of good seasons, their weakness will be found out and exploited. Pant failed this acid-test...Not that he will not rise-up. But he has to do that and then he will deserve the intl call Previous season was a loss in form. Now he is back in form and he scored 411 runs at an average of 45 and SR 195 in the recent SMA T20 trophy and scored 56 of just 28 balls yesterday in VH trophy. His keeping has been pretty solid too. It is shocking that this youngster is struggling to find a place as a keeper in the Indian side where Dhoni scores 10(22). Edited February 8, 2018 by Mosher beetle, Laaloo and raki05 3 Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Mosher said: Previous season was a loss in form. Now he is back in form and he scored 411 runs at an average of 45 and SR 195 in the recent SMA T20 trophy and scored 56 of just 28 balls yesterday in VH trophy. His keeping has been pretty solid too. It is shocking that this youngster is struggling to find a place as a keeper in the Indian side where Dhoni scores 10(22). What's worse is that they keep Karthik as standby to keep the status quo. Disgusting. velu, beetle, Mosher and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment
Popular Post raki05 Posted February 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2018 1 hour ago, PSB_Zone said: First thing I want to clear that I am not a dhoni blind supporter but there is a logic why should he still be in team as he is still contributing towards this indian victory run. 1)With two wrist spinners as our trump card, we need a specialist shrewd experinced keeper who could read the game, guide the spinners as well as read the spinners of the hand for stumpings.. There is no one in the country that is better then dhoni there. WITH spinners the role of wicketkeeper is as good as a captain. 2)Yes pant has more firepower and he would not stall the game at no. 5 but he is still learning to be consistent. We tend to compare dhoni with his former self but we hv to realize that he is not playing as a pure batsmen and hence he should only be judged as a wicket-keeper batsmen. 3)This odi run definitely would hv valuble inputs from dhoni in planning department ahead of the game 4)So till we can find any exceptional wicketkeeper batsman dhoni can just about be in the team.. I wont say he is an integral part but his contribution as of now is just enough to be in the team. Absolute rubbish "providing valuable input from behind the wicket".Where was his input when tullebaz Fakhar Zaman was basihng ash and jadeja. Or are you saying that Yuzi and Kuli would stop taking wkt once dhoni not around. Reality is for any victory which has been achieved through painstaking batting or bowling by some individual credit must go to dhoni according to PR agency of Dhoni. tweaker, saik, beetle and 7 others 1 2 7 Link to comment
Pollack Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Excuses 101 Fanboyism 102 Valuable input from behind lol People need to let go off emotions. Surely Dhoni is loved by many. But it's time to accept the reality. He is done. Rasgulla, tweaker, Mosher and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 1 hour ago, PSB_Zone said: 4)So till we can find any exceptional wicketkeeper batsman dhoni can just about be in the team.. I wont say he is an integral part but his contribution as of now is just enough to be in the team. Pant is an exceptional wicket keeper at this point. Laaloo, Rasgulla and beetle 2 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 1 hour ago, gakgupta said: Agree to certain extent..... Until we have exceptional Wk-keeper-batsmen....do we have a choice? Pant is already such a wicket keeper. he is far better than what Dhoni was on his debut. Laaloo, Mosher, beetle and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Pollack Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Pant is an exceptional wicket keeper at this point. Also how can you get exceptional wicketkeeper batsman from the get go. That's most rubbish argument repeated again and again.Very rare batsman start exceptionally well in International cricket. beetle 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Pollack said: Also how can you get exceptional wicketkeeper batsman from the get go. That's most rubbish argument repeated again and again.Very rare batsman start exceptionally well in International cricket. yes, but Pant is already better than what Dhoni was on his debut. beetle, Laaloo and Pollack 1 2 Link to comment
Pollack Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 57 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Why can't Pant play at no 6 or no 7 with Dhoni at no 4? Why Pant has to be excluded for Dhoni? What if Pant scores a lot? Dhoni will be screwed. Laaloo and beetle 1 1 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Pollack said: What if Pant scores a lot? Dhoni will be screwed. Who cares. But it shouldn't be Dhoni v Pant anymore. Let Pant play ODIs either as batsman or batsman wk irrespective of whether Dhoni plays or not. Ankit_sharma03 1 Link to comment
MCcricket Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 I would qualify this thread n posters agreeing to this view as retar%@#$ amd defeatist, we want a world class team but behave n select expired redundant players who cannnot even perform anywhere like we were Minnows n short of talent, Dhoni the product n player has expired 5 years back n shoukdve been fired then, he cannot hold the bat n kills momentum, its first time i listening to chewt%@#$ talking about him being in the team as a consultant rather then a player, load of bulls#$$%. We have loads of good player n Dhoni the selfish Bast#$_& that he is and the selectors the puss\%@ cant do their job, get in Pant, Samson, give them a chance , look at teams like Australia n learn from them , how they rebuild theie team n maximize their potential whereas India does other way round. Why do we need Yuvi, Kartik, Dhonis n other players who are oast it long time back n why do we pick wrong pkayers dor weong foemat, how many excuses n failures before we lay aside Dhawans n Rohits in test n Nahane in ODIs. tweaker, Laaloo, Rasgulla and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment
Pollack Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Trichromatic said: Who cares. Dhoni does, Kohli does and so do everyone in management and bcci who adore Dhoni and feel they owe him for achievements he had for India. Indians are emotional fools. Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Dhoni has served Indian Cricket exceptionally well. However, the successive planning needs to be done to avoid the inevitable and smoothen the transition. Rishabh Pant must be made regular feature in T20 at least. He should play all T20i matches for India. He should be in ODI squad for all series as well. In some matches Dhoni needs to be rested and Rishabh needs to be given a feel of international cricket in ODI format. With 3-0 up, we could easily have given Rishabh Pant an opportunity. Sadly, he is not even in the squad of 17 players for this SA tour. Opportunity lost imo. Shunya, Suhaan, beetle and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Vilander Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, sarchasm said: then you are setting him up for failure. How ? Link to comment
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