saik Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Pakistan pace legend Wasim Akram is quite impressed with Indian fast bowlers and feels they can be lethal in this year's tour of England if Mohammed Shami corrects a run-up flaw and Jasprit Bumrah devotes some time to county cricket. https://www.sportskeeda.com/cricket/shami-s-run-up-a-problem-bumrah-needs-to-play-county-akram speedheat, Rightarmfast, Mosher and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Temujin Khaghan Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Micheal holding should be ashamed of himself, even Pakistanis are praising our bowlers... Turning_track, Laaloo, velu and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Wasim is beyond being just a Pakistani, he is a legend. And he has been involved with Indian cricket, so I dont think he will talk bad about them. I doubt Bumrah will play county. And I still feel, Bumrah will do well in England. sandeep, Mosher, AuxiliA and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment
speedheat Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Wasim is such a likeable guy, we should cross all limits and hire him as a bowling coach, may be even give him Indian citizenship if he wants ThePhenomenal1 and vishalvirsingh 2 Link to comment
Kohlifan Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 He is almost and Indian Citizen, Spends as much time in India as he spends in Pakistan. Link to comment
Khota Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 You have to credit Wasim here. He tells you like it is. I hope this praise from wasim does not go to their heads. Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) Some of us , @Mosher, @Rightarmfast, and I have been talking about this aspect ... and now Akram says it in the excerpt below. And Bumrah has been using the delivery that straightens and the one that seams away prominently, with regularity in the last 6 months. " If people are talking about not having an outswinger, I won't be bothered much. "But if Bumrah can learn how to straighten the ball after pitching coming from wide off the crease, more often than not, it will be his wicket-taking delivery. He just needs to use a bit of wrists for that, " Edited February 8, 2018 by express bowling saik, Rightarmfast and Mosher 1 2 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Yes. I know right. His run up is not fluid, not natural. It is almost like he spends lot of energy just to run to the crease compared to other bowlers. Bhuvi has a smoother run up. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, express bowling said: Some of us , @Mosher, @Rightarmfast, and I have being talking about this aspect ... and now Akram says it in the excerpt below. And Bumrah has been using the delivery that straightens and the one that seams away prominently, with regularity in the last 6 months. " If people are talking about not having an outswinger, I won't be bothered much. "But if Bumrah can learn how to straighten the ball after pitching coming from wide off the crease, more often than not, it will be his wicket-taking delivery. He just needs to use a bit of wrists for that, " Yes outswing bowlers are no.1 wicket taking bowlers in Tests. Why? Because most of them are righties, we often always have slips. All edges fly to slips. Dale steyn probably picked 75% of his wickets with his outswingers. LORD_analyst 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Yes outswing bowlers are no.1 wicket taking bowlers in Tests. Why? Because most of them are righties, we often always have slips. All edges fly to slips. Dale steyn probably picked 75% of his wickets with his outswingers. Problem is, the ball does not swing conventionally for that many overs. ( England, and to some extent NZ, are the only exceptions ) Moat of the times, pacers have to depend on seam movement, pace, bounce and reverse swing to get wickets. Edited February 8, 2018 by express bowling Mosher 1 Link to comment
New guy Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) This guy (Akram) can still swing a mile even now, when other bowlers were bowling gun barrel straight Inswinger to Nazir Edited February 8, 2018 by New guy Link to comment
LordPrabhzy Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 how ironic. He is still better than current Pakistani bowlers New guy 1 Link to comment
Vilander Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 5 hours ago, Temujin Khaghan said: Micheal holding should be ashamed of himself, even Pakistanis are praising our bowlers... its Akram, he has been a little how can i say, above it all being GOAT etc. Holding does not have this tendency in him. Rightarmfast, express bowling and LORD_analyst 1 2 Link to comment
Vilander Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 4 hours ago, Kohlifan said: He is almost and Indian Citizen, Spends as much time in India as he spends in Pakistan. i think he is as pakistani as any other pakistani, but he just wont talk bad of some random fast bowler or not give credit where it is due. He is seen quite involved in tutoring across the globe, its just the kind of guy he is, share his knowledge and observes with an intent to add value. Mosher and Rightarmfast 2 Link to comment
Vilander Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 ok so Bhuv became more effective with increase in pace, Akram is saying this. So all trundler lovers look at that and internalise its a fact. "Bhuvneshwar Kumar has been the most impressive pacer in South Africa as far as my assessment goes. He was getting the ball to swing both ways. And with increased pace now, he has become all the more effective," Akram said." ThePhenomenal1, express bowling, Rightarmfast and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 5 hours ago, speedheat said: Wasim is such a likeable guy, we should cross all limits and hire him as a bowling coach, may be even give him Indian citizenship if he wants Well, if I am not wrong, he has been hired unofficially many a times. Officially, he cannot be hired because of all the Pakistnai thingy and all. TBH, I know I am going to get a lot of flak for this, but I personally would love to see an Indian batting coach like a Dravid coach Pakistani batsmen and have wasim and akhtar mentor our fast bowlers. It would be fun to see the difference an Indian batting coach brings about in Pakistani batsmen, not just because we are better, also because of the language and because the Pakistani players these days are already in awe of us! speedheat 1 Link to comment
Vilander Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 49 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said: Well, if I am not wrong, he has been hired unofficially many a times. Officially, he cannot be hired because of all the Pakistnai thingy and all. TBH, I know I am going to get a lot of flak for this, but I personally would love to see an Indian batting coach like a Dravid coach Pakistani batsmen and have wasim and akhtar mentor our fast bowlers. It would be fun to see the difference an Indian batting coach brings about in Pakistani batsmen, not just because we are better, also because of the language and because the Pakistani players these days are already in awe of us! it could be dangerous - (not for the Indian coach as they will work in Dubai) but all Aman related work from us backfires on our arse, it will be "Indians are coaching pak because of the money now they need pak monies, and Pak were always better bats as shown now, and Indians bowl well now only because we taught them how to do it." its their nature. Rightarmfast 1 Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, Vilander said: it could be dangerous - (not for the Indian coach as they will work in Dubai) but all Aman related work from us backfires on our arse, it will be "Indians are coaching pak because of the money now they need pak monies, and Pak were always better bats as shown now, and Indians bowl well now only because we taught them how to do it." its their nature. lolz! u got a point there! :P Vilander 1 Link to comment
vishalvirsingh Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 3 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: Yes. I know right. His run up is not fluid, not natural. It is almost like he spends lot of energy just to run to the crease compared to other bowlers. Bhuvi has a smoother run up. i guess shammi is 34 or so and has grown a bit fat...i used to bowl fast when i was 19 to 22 yrs after that i got busy working and then when i again got hold of a cricket bat was when i was 37 and i never tried Pace bowling as I had gained weight , when ever i did try to run and bowl i did get pace some times but full toss or just near the bat and one ball out of six was almost unplayable as hit the good length and i got bounce too but i realised i cant bowl as the runup/fitness /weight was not in order..i kinda see shammi gaining a bit of more weight which is not to my liking...fast bowling requires slim and flexible body and i think shammi has to get back his flexibility by reducing his weight a little and then i am not sure how good his knees are, if his kness are weak, he should be allowed to relax, it seems kohli has given up on his kness and is not considering him highly now, lets see if he is played in the next match. Link to comment
Khota Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 I do not like the advise of playing county. Indian pace bowler work load has to be managed and county will shorten their career. It is not worth it. Link to comment
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