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India tour of South Africa 2018, Pink Day: 4th ODI at Johannesburg (D/N) - Feb 10th, 2018 - 16.30 IST

Will India win their first ODI series in South Africa today?  

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  1. 1. Will India win their first ODI series in South Africa today?



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2 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Sehwag was a super-hero in test matches 

 

But just about good in ODIs.

 

Dhawan is a top ODI batsman but below-average in tests and T20Is 

 

2 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Sehwag was pretty average in ODIs. Surely not as good as these two.

ok fine 

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14 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Not in ODIs ... where Dhawan is better than Sehwag.

I don't quite agree. Sehwag played in an era when 1 new ball that actually moved around existed . When you consider the impact of his average and strike rate together, you could argue that he singlehandedly took the game away from the opposition. Like the 2011 SF against Pakistan. He scored only 38 but PAK were completely on the backfoot and we're clawing back from that assault. Also Gul, the best bowler of the tournament, was psychologically deflated and couldn't bowl his Yorkers at the death either. He may have underacheived in the format but I don't think Dhawan has that impact. 

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3 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Rohit day by day is proving what a colossal mistake it was to play him first two tests. This guy is such a Minnow basher.


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I just hope they notice. Our batting looks fragile.

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I don't quite agree. Sehwag played in an era when 1 new ball that actually moved around existed . When you consider the impact of his average and strike rate together, you could argue that he singlehandedly took the game away from the opposition. Like the 2011 SF against Pakistan. He scored only 38 but PAK were completely on the backfoot and we're clawing back from that assault. Also Gul, the best bowler of the tournament, was psychologically deflated and couldn't bowl his Yorkers at the death either. He may have underacheived in the format but I don't think Dhawan has that impact. 
Dhawan has been one of our best players in ICC tourneys.

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1 minute ago, Nikhil_cric said:

I don't quite agree. Sehwag played in an era when 1 new ball that actually moved around existed . When you consider the impact of his average and strike rate together, you could argue that he singlehandedly took the game away from the opposition. Like the 2011 SF against Pakistan. He scored only 38 but PAK were completely on the backfoot and we're clawing back from that assault. Also Gul, the best bowler of the tournament, was psychologically deflated and couldn't bowl his Yorkers at the death either. He may have underacheived in the format but I don't think Dhawan has that impact. 

So facing one new ball is tougher than facing two new balls in these conditions?

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2 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said:

Nah Rahane should come in at 4.

 

This pitch will suit him best.Good pace and bounce , short boundaries and not much turn either.

Although rahane is not ideal for odis but on such pitches there's a sense of comfort when I see rahane's name at #4 than any hack that we have tried recently 

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2 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

So facing one new ball is tougher than facing two new balls in these conditions?

 

2 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

So facing one new ball is tougher than facing two new balls in these conditions?

The white kookaburra they use these days has layers of lacquer removed from it these days and then they have two of them from either end. So neither do they swing a lot conventionally nor do they get roughed up enough to reverse sharply at the death or it to spin a lot. 

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5 minutes ago, BlueBee said:

Dhawan has been one of our best players in ICC tourneys.

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He's a good, consistent opener. I was just trying to point out that we don't have an explosive opener who can take the match away in the first 15 like Sehwag did. 

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7 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

I don't quite agree. Sehwag played in an era when 1 new ball that actually moved around existed . When you consider the impact of his average and strike rate together, you could argue that he singlehandedly took the game away from the opposition. Like the 2011 SF against Pakistan. He scored only 38 but PAK were completely on the backfoot and we're clawing back from that assault. Also Gul, the best bowler of the tournament, was psychologically deflated and couldn't bowl his Yorkers at the death either. He may have underacheived in the format but I don't think Dhawan has that impact. 

 

With 2 balls used nowadays ... new ball moves longer these days.

 

Sehwag, on his day, was better than everyone else.

 

But , in ODIs, lacked the consistency that he had in tests.

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15 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

I don't quite agree. Sehwag played in an era when 1 new ball that actually moved around existed . When you consider the impact of his average and strike rate together, you could argue that he singlehandedly took the game away from the opposition. Like the 2011 SF against Pakistan. He scored only 38 but PAK were completely on the backfoot and we're clawing back from that assault. Also Gul, the best bowler of the tournament, was psychologically deflated and couldn't bowl his Yorkers at the death either. He may have underacheived in the format but I don't think Dhawan has that impact. 

By this one inning logic, Fakhar Zaman is better than both.  

 

I love Veeru, and he is a legendary test opener, but he was average in ODIs.  Tried to to do too much hitting and got himself out way too often.  

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3 minutes ago, Jamadagni said:

Seems like we again crawl our way to just around 300. Should aim for 330-350 on this pitch. 

This is a 360 pitch if the full 50 overs are played.  Too bad tailunt gave it away again.   Its rare for us to get past 330 unless one of the openers gets a big one at 120 SR.   Virat is a machine but his optimal output ends up being in the 90-110 SR range.  Our 350+ totals are invariably powered by Rohit running rampant.  Its a bit of a major issue for us.   

 

 

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2 minutes ago, sandeep said:

This is a 360 pitch if the full 50 overs are played.  Too bad tailunt gave it away again.   Its rare for us to get past 330 unless one of the openers gets a big one at 120 SR.   Virat is a machine but his optimal output ends up being in the 90-110 SR range.  Our 350+ totals are invariably powered by Rohit running rampant.  Its a bit of a major issue for us.   

 

 

If Dhawan gets a hundred, we will be on track to get well over 300, but the guy loses as soon as reaching fifty. 

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Why the * do some batsmen pad up with helmets on? I mean its so suffocating...what if you keep watching for hours before getting a chance..by then your head is already sweating and dizzy. It 100% affects your gameplay. Such novice mistakes by professionals is just appalling. 

 

 

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Bad running.

 

That was not a run.

 

Dhawan and Kohli both at fault.

 

Kohli for running as if his oartner will surely run and Dhawan for being on danger end and yet running like a fool instead of saying “no”.

 

 

Both world class cricketers with brainless habit of running like crazy too often.

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43 minutes ago, Mosher said:

What a shot from Dhawan 

He is playing his 100th ODI today 

Gabbar ka Kamal dekho 

I wish he hits 187 today 

He hits on his debut test  on day one 

 

Run out missed 

64 for 1 off 13 

Two best Friend together again 

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7 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said:

Tweet from @UPStatsman: Rohit Sharma's batting average of 11.45 in ODIs in South Africa - the lowest for any Indian batsman who has played atleast 10 innings in top-order (1-7) in any particular country.

He must drop himself or else he is going to become the worst ever to tour SA in ODIs. The worst thing is these pitches this series are not even typical SA pitches. He is just flopping big time. Should take a break from last 2 ODIs or get niggled or something.

 

Overall figures
Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS AveAscending BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s  
Rashid Latif (PAK) 1993-2002 8 7 0 66 17 9.42 125 52.80 0 0 1 5 0 investigate this query
RD Jacobs (WI) 1999-2004 10 8 2 63 15 10.50 149 42.28 0 0 1 3 1 investigate this query
RG Sharma (INDIA) 2011-2018 12 11 0 126 23 11.45 235 53.61 0 0 1 14 2 investigate this query
Saeed Anwar (PAK) 1993-1998 10 10 1 106 30 11.77 197 53.80 0 0 2 8 4 investigate this query
DM de Silva (SL) 2017-2017 5 5 0 61 28 12.20 116 52.58 0 0 0 4 0 investigate this query
DJ Hussey (AUS) 2009-2009 5 5 0 62 20 12.40 89 69.66 0 0 0 4 0 investigate this query
IJ Harvey (AUS) 2000-2002 6 5 1 54 19 13.50 64 84.37 0 0 0 4 0 investigate this query
ME Trescothick (ENG) 2005-2005 7 7 0 99 37 14.14 132 75.00 0 0 1 14 1 investigate this query
Nasir Jamshed (PAK) 2013-2013 5 5 0 71 25 14.20 103 68.93 0 0 0 8 1 investigate this query
E Chigumbura (ZIM) 2005-2010 9 8 1 101 30 14.42 146 69.17 0 0 1 9 1 investigate this query
Wasim Akram (PAK) 1993-2002 5 5 0 73 57 14.60 93 78.49 0 1 1 6 1 investigate this query
MM Ali (ENG) 2016-2016 5 5 1 59 21* 14.75 66 89.39 0 0 0 6 1 investigate this query
CZ Harris (NZ) 1994-2000 8 7 2 75 19 15.00 139 53.95 0 0 0 8 0 investigate this query
V Sehwag (INDIA) 2001-2006 7 7 0 105 34 15.00 143 73.42 0 0 1 13 2 investigate this query
Yuvraj Singh (INDIA) 2001-2013 11 10 0 150 53 15.00 218 68.80 0 1 2 15 2 investigate this query

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1 minute ago, WC2011INDIA said:

Why the * do some batsmen pad up with helmets on? I mean its so suffocating...what if you keep watching for hours before getting a chance..by then your head is already sweating and dizzy. It 100% affects your gameplay. Such novice mistakes by professionals is just appalling. 

 

 

I think some are superstitious for putting certain things on before and some are just fool lol.

 

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