saik Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 MS Dhoni, one of the greatest ODI cricketers, has not been able to dictate terms in death overs in recent times. http://www.cricketcountry.com/news/ms-dhonis-strike-rate-a-big-concern-says-krishnamachari-srikkanth-686091 express bowling, mancalledsting, SecondSlip and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Can anyone list number of matches India had lost because of his slow batting? Must be more than 5 in last 2 years. SecondSlip, GoldenSun, SG1994 and 1 other 4 Link to comment
velu Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 ok .. we got one einstein in chennai Vilander and Rasgulla 1 1 Link to comment
Prateek3801 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 MS Dhoni is turning out to be a somewhat a liability to the team, he take a lot of balls settle down, his consistency has gone down and could not play the role of finisher in a convincing way. But the fact is, that he will be kept in the team till 2019 World Cup. I would have loved to give Pant a chance in place of him. Link to comment
Popular Post Jimmy Cliff Posted February 14, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 14, 2018 43 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Can anyone list number of matches India had lost because of his slow batting? Must be more than 5 in last 2 years. I had put up a list of T20Is sometime back . Quote 2nd T20I (N), India tour of New Zealand at Wellington, Feb 27 2009 Selflessly scores 28 off 30 and stays not out when the likes of Yuvraj, Pathan and Jadeja were selfishly batting at a SR of 110+. NZ win on the last ball of the match. 16th Match, Group E (D/N), ICC World Twenty20 at London, Jun 12 2009 Selflessly scores 11 off 23 balls whereas Yuvraj, YK and Bhajji selfishly pad their stats by scoring at a SR of 130+. His selfless contribution plays a major part in WI winning the game. 2nd T20I (N), New Zealand tour of India at Chennai, Sep 11 2012 Selflessly makes 22 off 23 and stays not out. Kohli, Yuvraj etc bat selfishly at a SR of 130+ to reduce the margin of win for NZ to just 1 run. 1st T20I, India tour of Zimbabwe at Harare, Jun 18 2016 Selflessly allows Zimbabwe to savour a win against India by making 19 off 17 while chasing 170. Axar Patel nearly spoils the party by scoring a selfish 18 off 9 but Dhoni finishes the job. Respect. 16th Match, Group 2 (N), ICC World Twenty20 at Colombo, Sep 28 2012 Comes in to bat at 7 and plays the sheet anchor role selflessly by scoring 15 off 21 balls. Although it appears that Raina and Ashwin didn't get the selfless memo as they both bat selfishly around him at a SR of 130+. I have the list of ODIs as well . Rasgulla, LORD_analyst, ThePhenomenal1 and 13 others 8 3 4 1 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said: I had put up a list of T20Is sometime back . I have the list of ODIs as well . Post the list ODIs. T20s don't count. Laaloo 1 Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Trichromatic said: Post the list ODIs. T20s don't count. Will do later today. Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Why do no media come out and say he is well past it now . Drop his fat chubby arse . Why not a peep peep from anyone sayjng drop and axe him ? speedheat, SG1994, Turning_track and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment
FischerTal Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 he will play till 2019. theres nothing you can do about it. sachin set the precedent after chasing that useless 100th 100. I'm sure kohli will do the same in the future Rasgulla, SG1994, Vilander and 6 others 1 1 1 5 1 Link to comment
DHONI_FANN Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Sad part is none of our selectors have the guts to drop him. We will have to tolerate him till wc2019. Question is how to turn that liability into asset. May be promote him to No.4 and hope he scores at run a ball or gets out cheaply without wasting too many deliveries . There is nothing else we can do. speedheat, adi B, Mosher and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment
NameGoesHere Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Jimmy Cliff said: Will do later today. I would prefer to see his downfall (if it's there) in the last two years. Your original list, while well researched, goes back to 2009 which is meaningless as 1. The debate is about his recent declining form 2. Stats from that period can be totally discarded as they can be attributed to temporary blips in form (He did help us win 2011 WC) Therefore, IMO, only stats from preferably Jan 2017 will give us a clue as to his successes and failures. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 44 minutes ago, King Tendulkar said: Why do no media come out and say he is well past it now . Drop his fat chubby arse . Why not a peep peep from anyone sayjng drop and axe him ? They praise how he does not get out despite getting hit on the body and keeps his wicket intact. they were saying youngsters must learn this from him, but they forgot that due to his slow batting, others take risks and lose their wickets. adi B, SecondSlip, beetle and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 34 minutes ago, DHONI_FANN said: Sad part is none of our selectors have the guts to drop him. We will have to tolerate him till wc2019. Question is how to turn that liability into asset. May be promote him to No.4 and hope he scores at run a ball or gets out cheaply without wasting too many deliveries . There is nothing else we can do. I genuinely think selectors , coach and skipper are powelesss in dhoni regard . They can’t drop him , basically bcci won’t allow it or something. Sad DHONI_FANN 1 Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 21 minutes ago, NameGoesHere said: I would prefer to see his downfall (if it's there) in the last two years. Your original list, while well researched, goes back to 2009 which is meaningless as 1. The debate is about his recent declining form 2. Stats from that period can be totally discarded as they can be attributed to temporary blips in form (He did help us win 2011 WC) Therefore, IMO, only stats from preferably Jan 2017 will give us a clue as to his successes and failures. The list was originally shared as a part of a different discussion to show how he had repeatedly cost us games in T20Is going back to 2009. Can't attribute any of those performances to a loss of form or any blip as he has been consistently poor since the 2007 WT20 without being the standout performer in any of our wins. I'd put up the list of ODIs later which should cover the recent losses in that format. NameGoesHere 1 Link to comment
jj_28 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Who do you pick if you drop Dhoni? Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Dhoni is joke now . Forget the numbers which only stink . Watch him bat , cricket eyes show it’s over for him . When he tries to up tempo it’s pathetic . That’s why tuk tuk now as knows if try to up it can’t do it and gets out . mancalledsting, adi B, LORD_analyst and 1 other 4 Link to comment
velu Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 48 minutes ago, King Tendulkar said: I genuinely think selectors , coach and skipper are powelesss in dhoni regard . They can’t drop him , basically bcci won’t allow it or something. Sad they were powerless with sachin as well Rasgulla 1 Link to comment
velu Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 42 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said: The list was originally shared as a part of a different discussion to show how he had repeatedly cost us games in T20Is going back to 2009. Can't attribute any of those performances to a loss of form or any blip as he has been consistently poor since the 2007 WT20 without being the standout performer in any of our wins. I'd put up the list of ODIs later which should cover the recent losses in that format. blame the selectors not the players who got picked and forced to play Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Srikkanth was a vocal supporter of Dhoni. Even he's pointing out flaws now.. Mosher, beetle, express bowling and 2 others 5 Link to comment
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