Ankit_sharma03 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) 1st fix ur 5 bowlers and then think about dropping bhuvi Bhuvi is very much part of a core team and shud be.....lets not tinker to much with the core If their is problem , it will get better with time only Edited February 14, 2018 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment
Number Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 4 hours ago, express bowling said: 1. He has scored 13 runs per innings at a SR of 87. We need all our batters from No.4 to No.8, to up their SRs. 2. The primary role of our top 4 bowlers has to be bowling. Velu only checks the average's column for a batsman. LORD_analyst, express bowling and Laaloo 3 Link to comment
putrevus Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) they were going after Shastri and Kohli for benching him for second test which was played under similar conditions. Bhuvi is strictly a bowler like Ashwin and jadeja dependent on conditions.If condition suit him he becomes India's best fast bowler otherwise he is not effective. Edited February 14, 2018 by putrevus Link to comment
Pollack Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 2 hours ago, mancalledsting said: Bhuvi clearly burnt out, smart posters predicted this. Kohli would have left him out to rest but for butt hurt backlash he received last time. Bhuvi isn't burnt out. He has had issues picking wickets right from the start of career. ODI pitches are not spicy enough to suit his bowling. He can at the most be economical. LORD_analyst 1 Link to comment
Number Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 I think he should always be in the squad. When we have a track/ground where swing and seam bowlers get support he should play in a 3 specialist seamers attack. Shami and Bumrah should be our first two choices. putrevus 1 Link to comment
sandeep Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 29 minutes ago, Vilander said: no dude Bhuvi should be rested and Shami replace him as Bhuv is not doing well. Chahal and Kuldeep play on to ensure India wins basically. This should be done to make bowling stronger. You have your opinion, I have mine. I think we can still beat SA easy with Pandey and Axar coming in for Kohli and Chahal. And that would be an even bigger slap in the saffer faces. Link to comment
mancalledsting Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 14 minutes ago, Pollack said: Bhuvi isn't burnt out. He has had issues picking wickets right from the start of career. ODI pitches are not spicy enough to suit his bowling. He can at the most be economical. No, post champions trophy his wicket taking ability was very good and Aussies, NZ and lankans couldn't play him. His bowling was even good in CT just unlucky not to pick up more wickets. I'm taking about post dharmasala test vs Australia version of Bhuvi (who developed pace, bounce and move the ball both ways. not the one who debuted against Pak. Steve smith even said Bhuvi one of best death bowlers around (key skill in LOI bowling) Link to comment
jf1gp_1 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) Shameful performance. He should retire. Edited February 14, 2018 by jf1gp_1 Unstable Joe 1 Link to comment
Samcric Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Yes, hasn't bowled the tight lines in the first powerplay as he usually can. Served some freebies to Amla/Markram. I think Shami and/or Shardul will replace Bhuvi and/or Bumrah so let's see how it goes. Shami can take early wickets but if he doesn't (and SA can work past the wristies) our bowlers will go for plenty in the last 10. The only match in the Australia series where Shami and Umesh played, that's what happened - Aus ended up with 330+ and we lost the match. Really hope Shami can develop his death-overs bowling. Will be great if we have a pool of 4-5 fast bowlers can bowl well upfront as well as towards the end. Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 4 hours ago, Temujin Khaghan said: people say that he survives because his economy rate is fab and that he creates pressure by bowling tight, but his economy is 6+ His economy in ODI is 4.99 runs per over. Link to comment
Temujin Khaghan Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 35 minutes ago, Straight Drive said: His economy in ODI is 4.99 runs per over. in this series... its 6 LORD_analyst 1 Link to comment
sandeep Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 22 minutes ago, Temujin Khaghan said: in this series... its 6 In this series, Morkel averages 82 and Rabada averages 48. Yes, he's had a bad series. But I don't think its accurate to use his statistics to conclude that he is reverting to his performances of 3-4 years ago. Bhuvi has been a very good ODI bowler for us, 80% of the time in the last couple of years. I think a lot of people are forgetting the kind of beatings that most teams used to dish out to us in the "death" overs - regularly. The Killer Bs have completely flipped that script for us in the last couple of years. And as awesome as Bumrah is, Bhuvi's played his part in that improvement as well. Samcric 1 Link to comment
maniac Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Shami has to replace Bhuvi.....as I said Kung FU Pandya is messing up our balance...basic cricket sense...3 good seamers is a must...But this apparent X factor of Pandya means Bhuvi has to sit out as Shami is leagues ahead in this format. sandeep and Unstable Joe 1 1 Link to comment
SUMO Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Heard his knees are flaring up...some injury issues Link to comment
Vijy Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 hour ago, sandeep said: In this series, Morkel averages 82 and Rabada averages 48. Yes, he's had a bad series. But I don't think its accurate to use his statistics to conclude that he is reverting to his performances of 3-4 years ago. Bhuvi has been a very good ODI bowler for us, 80% of the time in the last couple of years. I think a lot of people are forgetting the kind of beatings that most teams used to dish out to us in the "death" overs - regularly. The Killer Bs have completely flipped that script for us in the last couple of years. And as awesome as Bumrah is, Bhuvi's played his part in that improvement as well. My concern would be that his death bowling has improved at the expense of his ability to pick wkts in the opening spell. Link to comment
sandeep Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, Vijy said: My concern would be that his death bowling has improved at the expense of his ability to pick wkts in the opening spell. And what makes you come to this counter-intuitive conclusion? Link to comment
maniac Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 If Bhuvi can’t last 2 tests and 3 Odis what is he going to do over a 5 match series...Thank god we have a good pool these days...have to use him carefully in England. Link to comment
PBN Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) Posted this other thread: Raw stats, Last 10 games Bhuvi 9 wickets, ER 5.87, Avg 50.55, SR 51.66 Bumrah 15 wickets, ER 4.33, Avg 22.8, SR 31.6 Bumrah has been more economical than Bhuvi in every game Edited February 14, 2018 by PBN LORD_analyst, sarcastic and CG 1 1 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 33 minutes ago, sandeep said: And what makes you come to this counter-intuitive conclusion? It's not really a conclusion - more of an impression, and the reason I said this was because I don't recall many instances of Bhuvi picking up wkts in the opening spell. Will need to go look at the stats in more detail to confirm/debunk it. LORD_analyst 1 Link to comment
Samcric Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 8 hours ago, maniac said: Shami has to replace Bhuvi.....as I said Kung FU Pandya is messing up our balance...basic cricket sense...3 good seamers is a must...But this apparent X factor of Pandya means Bhuvi has to sit out as Shami is leagues ahead in this format. Shami is not as good an ODI bowler as people in this thread have made him out to be. Though I hope he does well, I suspect he will go for plenty in the last ODI. We need a bigger pool of fast bowlers for ODIs and T20s. Link to comment
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