I was dropped despite performance: Suresh Raina

[SandeepMotta]

Does he deserve to comeback into the National team?

[Laaloo]

No. We already have enough hasbeens on the team as it is. Don't need one more. 

[sarcastic]

First thing to check is if this has been written by his nephew on twitter or he himself said that!!! 

[sandeep]

He was dropped because with Dhoni and Yuvraj in the ODI team, there wasn't room for another "experienced" bat in the middle order.  Now that Yuvi is out, he can get a shot.    

 

To be fair, a fit and firing Raina is an instant upgrade over a Jadhav or the current version of Dhoni at #5.  He's a guy who can get going quickly and hit boundaries against int'l level bowling.   But is he anywhere near his prime still?  

[Sean Bradley]

Had been an absolute gun player, definitely a better bowler, batter and fielder than Jadhav and if fit, should be given a chance to redeem his LO career. I am sure he has allot of cricket left in him.

[Rasgulla]

13 minutes ago, UnknownGenius said:

Raina is better than Iyer or Jadhav or whoever you want to throw in there. Can get going from ball #1, decent off spin and very good fielder despite the tummy

Has no tummy... He ll be back 

[gakgupta]

he is definite upgrade to current lot at that position...

But he has to work on his tummy and should be back to top...

[rkt.india]

41 minutes ago, sandeep said:

He was dropped because with Dhoni and Yuvraj in the ODI team, there wasn't room for another "experienced" bat in the middle order.  Now that Yuvi is out, he can get a shot.    

 

To be fair, a fit and firing Raina is an instant upgrade over a Jadhav or the current version of Dhoni at #5.  He's a guy who can get going quickly and hit boundaries against int'l level bowling.   But is he anywhere near his prime still?  

add the disclaimer too: Only in Indian or SC conditions as he averages 20 and 22 in SA and Aus.

[sandeep]

2 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

add the disclaimer too: Only in Indian or SC conditions as he averages 20 and 22 in SA and Aus.

How about you add the disclaimer to your disclaimer - about him averaging 37.5 with SR of 113 in ODIs in England.  Where the 2019 WC is going to be played.  

[Rasgulla]

38 minutes ago, UnknownGenius said:

People forget clutch innings he played in WC quarter final and semi final were India were under the gun...

 

Will need Raina for WC 2019

That's right.. If he can perform in T20Is he ll be back in that Odi squad hopefully.

 

#4 #6. He is instant fix. 

Edited February 15, 2018 by Rasgulla

[sandeep]

 

[speedheat]

If any senior I want to see back in the team is raina, despite all his weakness is still a match winner on his  day, still a clutch player, better than hypocrite seniors like dhoni, way better hitting ability than iyer,jadhav, rahane and pandey,  he can take that num. 6 position would love to see him bat  with pandya in full flow, pant at 5 rainsla at 6 and pandya at 7 can be a perfect combo.

[Rasgulla]

26 minutes ago, sandeep said:

 

He ll do it.. Have full faith in him. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 hour ago, sandeep said:

How about you add the disclaimer to your disclaimer - about him averaging 37.5 with SR of 113 in ODIs in England.  Where the 2019 WC is going to be played.  

England didnt have a gr8 bowling lineup to test him 

what wud happen when he ll face Sa,Aus in eng even pak, Nz bowler can trouble him big time .......most days he is walking wkt against them

 

Edited February 15, 2018 by Ankit_sharma03

[Brainfade]

Wasn't he "dropped" due to injury, but did not make it back because he could not regain his fitness until recently?  Now he is back in the T20I squad.  Hopefully he is picked in the 11 and makes some noise so he can make it back into the ODI squad.

[Suhaan]

1 hour ago, UnknownGenius said:

People forget clutch innings he played in WC quarter final and semi final were India were under the gun...

 

Will need Raina for WC 2019

Yup good 7 years ago

[sandeep]

16 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

England didnt have a gr8 bowling lineup to test him 

what wud happen when he ll face Sa,Aus in eng even pak, Nz bowler can trouble him big time .......most days he is walking wkt against them

 

Didn't he score a T20 century against SA?  And played a crucial innings aginst Aus and Pak on the way to the 2011 WC?   He has managed his short ball issues and still scored a ton of runs against all those teams you mentioned.  

 

Question on Raina is not about his abilities.  It is whether he can still do it, or has faded like Dhoni has.  Dhoni can still be carried by the team, because he is a quality wicket-keeper.  Raina has to perform at those levels to justify selection and maintain a spot.  

 

 

 

 

[Laaloo]

6 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Yup good 7 years ago

Sachin was the highest scorer in that match. Usko bhi wapas bulao

[maniac]

Karthik makes Dhoni look a million bucks

 

Iyer makes Yuvraj look like a billion bucks

 

Jadhav makes Raina look like a trillion bucks

 

San Kaanspiracy hai bhai

[Ankit_sharma03]

6 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Didn't he score a T20 century against SA?  And played a crucial innings aginst Aus and Pak on the way to the 2011 WC?   He has managed his short ball issues and still scored a ton of runs against all those teams you mentioned.  

 

Question on Raina is not about his abilities.  It is whether he can still do it, or has faded like Dhoni has.  Dhoni can still be carried by the team, because he is a quality wicket-keeper.  Raina has to perform at those levels to justify selection and maintain a spot.  

 

 

 

 

that was 2009, his weekness wasnt even exposed

2011- again his weekness was not fully exposed

Aus game had a lot of dew

Against pak he attacked mostly ajmal

 

In 2015Wc against pak, misbah was idiot ho gave him spinners at start and everyone in commentry was making fun of that idea

 

Over the yea short pitch bowling has become a mental block, he is always on backfoot expecting it and then he gets yorked so many times . Watch is many innings in recent times n ull see he is neither of front foot neither back so he has gotten out to this problem as well. That block has lead to more weekness

 

The question i have is what has he done to be considered, he failed badly in domestic season.

 

Also can he make runs agianst SA, Aus, NZ, Pak attack specially under pressure ....

Now playing pandya means u needs a batsman who can give u consistently 5 overs atleast....thats were again raina cnt be the answer. On some days may be not every day .

 

We shud look among, shankar, krunal n gowtham for that role 

 

Why are we going back to him, we can atleast say someone like karthik piled on runs which is not the case with raina. T20 m still ok with but ODi...............i hve huge doubts. 

 

I hope he works but the chances seems to be less. N i hope we dnt judge his ODi comeback with T20s