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24 minutes ago, Straight Drive said:

lso, this test batting average of 33 is on a decline, so it will fall below 25 in couple of series. 

Batting averages, when used to judge performance, are relative to other batsmen, conditions and opposition 

 

If due to conditions, batting averages go down, bowling averages are likely to improve for a team 

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44 minutes ago, zen said:

:rofl:

 

And that goes against your position on Pandya as he has at least 1 good inning, wkts, and contributions through fielding 

 

That is what many have told you i.e. a team needs options as it can’t put all its eggs in one basket. The all rounder Pandya contributed more relatively speaking

 

 

 

 

 

 

That is a bad basket to put all eggs in. You can argue all day long but I can tell you right now based on the eyeball test pandya will not make it.

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31 minutes ago, Straight Drive said:

Most specialist batters will give a better average than 33 in tests and most specialist bowlers will take more than 7 wickets in 11 bowling innings in tests.

But that tells nothing. For e.g A batting avg of 35 is better than 33, but is it better than a batting average of 33 + 2 key wkts + 1 direct hit / great catch. Similarly someone can pick 8 wkts, average low with the bat. Additionally, the team already has 5 specialist batsmen and 4 specialist bowlers. An all rounder in current context is 6th or 7th batsmen and 5th bowler

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8 minutes ago, Khota said:

That is a bad basket to put all eggs in. You can argue all day long but I can tell you right now based on the eyeball test pandya will not make it.

Per your eyeball test, what will Pandya not make? Bat like Richards and bowl like Hadlee? And in that case, please mention the Richard / Hadlee that he is replacing in the 11

 

PS Did likes of Sehwag and Dhoni meet your eyeball test?

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2 hours ago, Khota said:

 

Tell me exactly how much more did Pandya score than Rahul in SA? Both did bad. And stop going by one score from Pandya. That was an outlier.

where did rahul came from

Rahul has 100 overseas

One score,pandya has a 100 in SL. 

 

does rohit even have one score or a 100 outside india??

 

Why wont i count pandya scores , it was on a damn tough pitch and against damn tough bowling . He has only ;played 2 series

 

U count karthik 20 runs and m not suppose to count a 90 in test cricket :facepalm:

 

Btw i asked u to find what rohit sharma has done in his test career, i guess u failed to do so 

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51 minutes ago, zen said:

Per your eyeball test, what will Pandya not make? Bat like Richards and bowl like Hadlee? And in that case, please mention the Richard / Hadlee that he is replacing in the 11

 

PS Did likes of Sehwag and Dhoni meet your eyeball test?

Both did starting out.

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5 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

where did rahul came from

Rahul has 100 overseas

One score,pandya has a 100 in SL. 

 

does rohit even have one score or a 100 outside india??

 

Why wont i count pandya scores , it was on a damn tough pitch and against damn tough bowling . He has only ;played 2 series

 

U count karthik 20 runs and m not suppose to count a 90 in test cricket :facepalm:

 

Btw i asked u to find what rohit sharma has done in his test career, i guess u failed to do so 

OK since you are so big on Pandya and claim he is a better bat than Rohit would you be kind enough to show me that he did better than Rohit in SA?

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1 minute ago, Khota said:

OK since you are so big on Pandya and claim he is a better bat than Rohit would you be kind enough to show me that he did better than Rohit in SA?

gladly 

rohit sharma avg in sa is 15 and his highest score is 47

Pandya avg 20 in Sa with highest as 94

 

Rohit sharma is yet to hit a 50 in test in SA

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1 hour ago, Khota said:

That is a bad basket to put all eggs in. You can argue all day long but I can tell you right now based on the eyeball test pandya will not make it.

bumer

he already has a test 100 in his 1st two test series which many didnt have and that to oustide india and then that special knock of 94 which came against one the best bowling attack under a collapse. 

 

He already has done well then many at start of their career

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3 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

gladly 

rohit sharma avg in sa is 15 and his highest score is 47

Pandya avg 20 in Sa with highest as 94

 

Rohit sharma is yet to hit a 50 in test in SA

So to prove your point you misrepresent facts. Look at the number below and you will see that you are putting incorrect information. I finally fact checked you and you are caught misrepresenting. They are both less than 20.

 

Rohit: 11, 10, 10, 47  Ave = 19.5

 

Pandya: 93 , 1, 15, 6, 0, 4 Ave =  19.8

 

Now take the fluky 93 out when SA had no information about this player. After that coaches had enough tape/information on him and they sorted him and he got into double digits only once.

 

Now look at Rohit. Finally he got his footing back and scored a 47 and was dropped because of haters like you.

 

Only in your dream world is Pandya better bat than Rohit. 

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57 minutes ago, Khota said:

Rohit: 11, 10, 10, 47  Ave = 19.5

 

Pandya: 93 , 1, 15, 6, 0, 4 Ave =  19.8

 

Now take the fluky 93 out when SA had no information about this player. After that coaches had enough tape/information on him and they sorted him and he got into double digits only once.

 

Now look at Rohit. Finally he got his footing back and scored a 47 and was dropped because of haters like you.

That is one of the dumbest posts I have seen on ICF :rofl: 

 

Using your logic, it can be argued that likes of Rohit are already sorted out by competition so struggle to score even a 50 :facepalm:

 

Since there are 5 specialist batting slots available so Ind has the option to select the best 5. The 6th struggling batsman can be replaced by a decent AR, who could add value in other departments

 

If you were a lawyer, you would prove your client to be guilty in trying to prove his/her innocence 

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20 minutes ago, zen said:

That is one of the dumbest posts I have seen on ICF :rofl: 

 

Using your logic, it can be argued that likes of Rohit are already sorted out by competition so struggle to score even a 50 :facepalm:

 

Since there are 5 specialist batting slots available so Ind has the option to select the best 5. The 6th struggling batsman can be replaced by a decent AR, who could add value in other departments

 

If you were a lawyer, you would prove your client to be guilty in trying to prove his/her innocence 

Do you ever read your posts before punching Submit Reply?

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48 minutes ago, Khota said:

Do you ever read your posts before punching Submit Reply?

the trend you posted, if you did that in brick and mortar world, you would be laughed out of a room :facepalm: 

 

Keep the entertainment coming

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3 hours ago, zen said:

the trend you posted, if you did that in brick and mortar world, you would be laughed out of a room :facepalm: 

 

Keep the entertainment coming

I am extremely comfortable with what I believe in. I dont need approval from the sheeple.

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9 hours ago, Khota said:

So to prove your point you misrepresent facts. Look at the number below and you will see that you are putting incorrect information. I finally fact checked you and you are caught misrepresenting. They are both less than 20.

Wrong rohit has toured Sa in 2013 also n he failed their

So he had prior exp and shud have done better 

9 hours ago, Khota said:

 

Rohit: 11, 10, 10, 47  Ave = 19.5

 

Pandya: 93 , 1, 15, 6, 0, 4 Ave =  19.8

Actually i shud match Rohit 2013Sa tour stats to hardik current that wud be fair coz this was rohit 2nd tour and pandya 1st

9 hours ago, Khota said:

 

Now take the fluky 93 out when SA had no information about this player. After that coaches had enough tape/information on him and they sorted him and he got into double digits only once.

Rohit in 2 tour cudnt even play a fluke 

9 hours ago, Khota said:

Now look at Rohit. Finally he got his footing back and scored a 47 and was dropped because of haters like you.

yes a 47 is enough to save him from his epic disastor perfomances in overseas

9 hours ago, Khota said:

 

Only in your dream world is Pandya better bat than Rohit. 

again prove what has rohit sharma done in test cricket then say this , pandya has a 100 outside india and 94 in sA 

rohit has none, better batsman my foot

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4 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Wrong rohit has toured Sa in 2013 also n he failed their

So he had prior exp and shud have done better 

Actually i shud match Rohit 2013Sa tour stats to hardik current that wud be fair coz this was rohit 2nd tour and pandya 1st

Rohit in 2 tour cudnt even play a fluke 

yes a 47 is enough to save him from his epic disastor perfomances in overseas

again prove what has rohit sharma done in test cricket then say this , pandya has a 100 outside india and 94 in sA 

rohit has none, better batsman my foot

Long post and you still did not respond to stating misleading facts deliberately. It is a credibility issue and you are not faring well.

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36 minutes ago, Khota said:

Long post and you still did not respond to stating misleading facts deliberately. It is a credibility issue and you are not faring well.

again no answer....

My question was simple what has rohit sharma done in test cricket, the guy avg lower then bhuvi n ashwin overseas. 

answer nhin hai to rehne de

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5 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

again no answer....

My question was simple what has rohit sharma done in test cricket, the guy avg lower then bhuvi n ashwin overseas. 

answer nhin hai to rehne de

My question is that you deliberately mislet on the stats to prove a point. You did to stats what Aussies to did to the balle. You are tampering with stats and you have been caught misrepresenting. Can you man up and apologize.

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7 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

again no answer....

My question was simple what has rohit sharma done in test cricket, the guy avg lower then bhuvi n ashwin overseas. 

answer nhin hai to rehne de

If you really want to compare batting of Rohit with Ashwin and claim Ashwin and Bhuvi are better bats then I am truly speechless. enjoy your day.

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17 minutes ago, Khota said:

If you really want to compare batting of Rohit with Ashwin and claim Ashwin and Bhuvi are better bats then I am truly speechless. enjoy your day.

ashwin has 2 100s overseas, better avg 

done better on many tours then rohit sharma

 

Bhuvi has played many cruicial knocks overseas, cnt remeber more then 1-2 from rohit 

If ur telling rohit is a better test batsman then ashwin :laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1:

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11 minutes ago, Khota said:

My question is that you deliberately mislet on the stats to prove a point. You did to stats what Aussies to did to the balle. You are tampering with stats and you have been caught misrepresenting. Can you man up and apologize.

rohit has done nything in test cricket  n i have tampered stats

Please tell me what has he done in test cricket 

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12 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

ashwin has 2 100s overseas, better avg 

done better on many tours then rohit sharma

 

Bhuvi has played many cruicial knocks overseas, cnt remeber more then 1-2 from rohit 

If ur telling rohit is a better test batsman then ashwin :laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1:

You are truly clueless. Don't keep on digging a hole.

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12 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

rohit has done nything in test cricket  n i have tampered stats

Please tell me what has he done in test cricket 

The point was you deliberately misstating facts.

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1 minute ago, Khota said:

You are truly clueless. Don't keep on digging a hole.

 

1 minute ago, Khota said:

The point was you deliberately misstating facts.

i think ur the one who is clueless, coz u still havent been able to present one fact in favour of rohit sharma the test cricket

i have shown many

 

All u can say is words like clueless, useless, speechless......where as reality u have no facts

 

cmmn counter me , show me rohit perfomances in test cricket 

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1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

i think ur the one who is clueless, coz u still havent been able to present one fact in favour of rohit sharma the test cricket

i have shown many

 

All u can say is words like clueless, useless, speechless......where as reality u have no facts

 

cmmn counter me , show me rohit perfomances in test cricket 

You misrepresented facts. You blatantly lied. I calculated the acverage and presented to you. What more do you want?

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15 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

rohit has done nything in test cricket  n i have tampered stats

Please tell me what has he done in test cricket 

Khota is going by his eyeballs. Stats (facts) don’t matter :rofl: 

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Just now, Khota said:

You misrepresented facts. You blatantly lied. I calculated the acverage and presented to you. What more do you want?

i didnt lie .....u just took this series, why to ignore 2013 tour 

N even if compare this tour hardik highest was 94 n rohit 47.....pandya made double 

 

why wud not count 2013 horrible tour of SA of rohit , when u wanna criticise pandya on his 1st tour

waha hypocricy

 

and again i asked u show me what has rohit done in test ......waiting for the answer

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1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

i didnt lie .....u just took this series, why to ignore 2013 tour 

N even if compare this tour hardik highest was 94 n rohit 47.....pandya made double 

 

why wud not count 2013 horrible tour of SA of rohit , when u wanna criticise pandya on his 1st tour

waha hypocricy

 

and again i asked u show me what has rohit done in test ......waiting for the answer

Dont shout. It is called bad manners. You lied. You cheated . You apologize.

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2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

no i didnt here is the prove, ja cricinfo se ladayi kar ab 

 

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he has an avg of 15 in SA

 

u dnt even know how to watch stats

 

Here are my hand calculations: Prove me wrong.

 

Rohit: 11, 10, 10, 47  Ave = 19.5

 

 

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Anyone can see @Ankit_sharma03 has posted the overall stats in SA 

 

While this tool is probably talking about his last 4 innings. And because the average is still lower than Pandya’s, he wants to remove Pandya’s 93 (while including the 47) and act as if the ave of 19 or whatever makes sense for a specialist batsmen 

 

What a fool to think others are naive enough to not catch his dumb game :facepalm: 

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25 minutes ago, zen said:

Anyone can see @Ankit_sharma03 has posted the overall stats in SA 

 

While this tool is probably talking about his last 4 innings. And because the average is still lower than Pandya’s, he wants to remove Pandya’s 93 (while including the 47) and act as if the ave of 19 or whatever makes sense for a specialist batsmen 

 

What a fool to think others are naive enough to not catch his dumb game :facepalm: 

I am sure your parents taught you better.

We were talking this series. Sharma was not great but neither was Pandya. To claim pandya is better bat is a reach.

We can go on and on or bump this thread a year from now when Pandya would amount to nothng.

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1 minute ago, Khota said:

I am sure your parents taught you better.

We were talking this series. Sharma was not great but neither was Pandya. To claim pandya is better bat is a reach.

We can go on and on or bump this thread a year from now when Pandya would amount to nothng.

Were you not claiming Rohit did better than Pandya in this series, despite Rohit averaging less? 

 

If both were equally bad with the bat, Pandya contributed more by picking wkts and through his fielding, along with adding value through intangibles like never say die spirit which rubbed on to the team

 

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1 hour ago, zen said:

Were you not claiming Rohit did better than Pandya in this series, despite Rohit averaging less? 

 

If both were equally bad with the bat, Pandya contributed more by picking wkts and through his fielding, along with adding value through intangibles like never say die spirit which rubbed on to the team

 

/thread

This was about Pandya and someone claimed he was better than Sharma as a bat. That is when it escalated.

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3 hours ago, Khota said:

Here are my hand calculations: Prove me wrong.

 

Rohit: 11, 10, 10, 47  Ave = 19.5

 

 

awwww u knw rohit so bad that u have to hide his 1st tour 

 

so ull be unfairely comparing a youngster 1st tour to someone 2nd tour of same place, koi na pandya did better in his 1st tour then rohit did in his 2nd tour means he leanrned nothing 

 

if u wanna take this series only , well rohit sharma did nothing . Pandya atleast played a brilliant knock ...rohit didnt that to. Then pandya took wkts as well whereas after his failure in batting rohit is of no use. 

 

just to save ur face, u cnt hide rohit sharma 1st SA tour, it counts and the reality is in his 2nd tour he learned nothing whereas he shud have done better. 

1 hour ago, Khota said:

This was about Pandya and someone claimed he was better than Sharma as a bat. That is when it escalated.

ofcourse, what has rohit sharma done u still havent answer. I told u pandya has a 100 outside india and almost a 100 in SA 

Rohit sharma highest score overseas is 70 + and he has played around 20+ innings .

 

Forget pandya many are better batsman then rohit in test , after all how difficult is to beat an avg of 22 in overseas.....ashwin n bhuvi has done that easily. Shami can beat that to 

 

Rohit sharma is garbage in test cricket who if not for kohli wud have not worn the test cap again

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22 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

awwww u knw rohit so bad that u have to hide his 1st tour 

 

so ull be unfairely comparing a youngster 1st tour to someone 2nd tour of same place, koi na pandya did better in his 1st tour then rohit did in his 2nd tour means he leanrned nothing 

 

if u wanna take this series only , well rohit sharma did nothing . Pandya atleast played a brilliant knock ...rohit didnt that to. Then pandya took wkts as well whereas after his failure in batting rohit is of no use. 

 

just to save ur face, u cnt hide rohit sharma 1st SA tour, it counts and the reality is in his 2nd tour he learned nothing whereas he shud have done better. 

ofcourse, what has rohit sharma done u still havent answer. I told u pandya has a 100 outside india and almost a 100 in SA 

Rohit sharma highest score overseas is 70 + and he has played around 20+ innings .

 

Forget pandya many are better batsman then rohit in test , after all how difficult is to beat an avg of 22 in overseas.....ashwin n bhuvi has done that easily. Shami can beat that to 

 

Rohit sharma is garbage in test cricket who if not for kohli wud have not worn the test cap again

We were talking this tour. You got desoerate to prove you are right you started cooking and manipulating. Sharma never got the third match when he was in a groove after hitting almost 50.

 

We will go on and on but the proof of pudding is eating. You can go on and on but there is no substitute for runs.

You can cherry pick any stat but Rohit > Pandya, Ashwin and Bhuvi in batting.

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6 minutes ago, Khota said:

We were talking this tour. You got desoerate to prove you are right you started cooking and manipulating. Sharma never got the third match when he was in a groove after hitting almost 50.

 

We will go on and on but the proof of pudding is eating. You can go on and on but there is no substitute for runs.

You can cherry pick any stat but Rohit > Pandya, Ashwin and Bhuvi in batting.

Ok lets take this tour, he still has done less then pandya ......happy 

 

Bhuvi avg - 33 + 10 wkts 

ashwin- 22 +7 wkts

Pandya - 19.83 + 3 wkts

rohit - 19.50 ( bhaisaab se to run bhi na bane fir kis kaam ke , specialist hahahhahah)

 

u see rest compare to rohit are bowlers or all rounder, thats the biggest failure of rohit sharma his avg are worst then them and those guys take wkts to 

 

so yea keep doing - Rohit > Pandya, Ashwin and Bhuvi( whereas contribution n end result shows something else)

 

sharma has played so much abhi tak kyun kuch nhin kiya

Failure everywhere, cant beg for one more chanvces when u cant do anything in so many 

 

N when he got dropped we won, take Lords win .....again no rohit sharma ( u see the pattern)

 

Pandya ashwin, n bhuvi have done better then rohit sharma overseas...every stat will prove that . Unfortunately u cnt even cherry pick 

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4 hours ago, zen said:

Anyone can see @Ankit_sharma03 has posted the overall stats in SA 

 

While this tool is probably talking about his last 4 innings. And because the average is still lower than Pandya’s, he wants to remove Pandya’s 93 (while including the 47) and act as if the ave of 19 or whatever makes sense for a specialist batsmen 

 

What a fool to think others are naive enough to not catch his dumb game :facepalm: 

Go watch 3 wkt keeper thread- their is a gem when the gentleman doesnt even knw the diff between off side n leg side and gives gyaan how to keep wkts and blantely denis parthiv dropping so many catches. For him dropping 9 catches in 4 games is normal 

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2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Go watch 3 wkt keeper thread- their is a gem when the gentleman doesnt even knw the diff between off side n leg side and gives gyaan how to keep wkts and blantely denis parthiv dropping so many catches. For him dropping 9 catches in 4 games is normal 

:rofl: 

 

Anyways, I do not follow cricket as much (apart from marque overseas test series and ICc events) as I used to. But looked at some batting stats overseas in the last two years:

 

# Batsman
Overseas
Innings
Overseas
Avg
Home
Avg
Overseas
50s or more
Overseas
50
/Inning
1 Rahane 8 75.57 31.95 4 50%
2 Rahul 9 45.33 46.70 4 44%
3 Pandya 9 33.00   3 33%
4 Dhawan 10 52.80 35.00 3 30%
5 Kolhi 14 53.69 80.95 4 29%
6 Ashwin 11 41.54 23.00 3 27%
7 Pujara 12 39.25 61.73 3 25%
8 Rohit 6 21.33 113.75 0 0%
9  Vijay 7 15.57 44.29 0 0%

 

 

Sorted based on 1) Overseas 50s / inning ratio, 2) Average. More than AR vs Specialist Batsmen, Ind has faltered by not picking the optimal specialists (5 batsmen and 4 bowlers) 

           

                                          

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44 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Ok lets take this tour, he still has done less then pandya ......happy 

 

Bhuvi avg - 33 + 10 wkts 

ashwin- 22 +7 wkts

Pandya - 19.83 + 3 wkts

rohit - 19.50 ( bhaisaab se to run bhi na bane fir kis kaam ke , specialist hahahhahah)

To "quantify" the benefit, when you have time, may be you should post a table of runs scored, wkts taken, direct run outs impacted, and number of innings played. Assign 1 point for each run, 20 points of each wkt and 20 points of each direct run out. Divided the total by # of innings to give the value per inning score

 

PS based on above:

Pandya (19.83*6) + (3*20) = 119+60 = 179. 179/6 = 29.83 Value 

Rohit 19.50 Value 

 

So Pandya provided more (53%) value than Rohit in the series. Direct hits have not been considered in this quick analysis. Intangibles such as "never say die" spirit, along with ability to take blinders, are not even considered 

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Just now, zen said:

For everyone's benefit, when you have time, may be you should post a table of runs scored, wkts taken, direct run outs impacted, and number of innings played. Assign 1 point for each run, 20 points of each wkt and 20 points of each direct run out. Divided the total by # of innings to give the value per inning score. That would be an eye opener for many, who make blanket statements 

have done that , but the gentleman doesnt wanna see simple thread.....itna complicate krunga wo samjhega nhin 

 

Actually for me a wkt counts 25-30 runs 

 

during the series i did that so pandya 1st match contribution was actually around 150+

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12 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

have done that , but the gentleman doesnt wanna see simple thread.....itna complicate krunga wo samjhega nhin 

 

Actually for me a wkt counts 25-30 runs 

 

during the series i did that so pandya 1st match contribution was actually around 150+

Edited my last post to add the "value" data 

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4 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Ok lets take this tour, he still has done less then pandya ......happy 

 

Bhuvi avg - 33 + 10 wkts 

ashwin- 22 +7 wkts

Pandya - 19.83 + 3 wkts

rohit - 19.50 ( bhaisaab se to run bhi na bane fir kis kaam ke , specialist hahahhahah)

 

u see rest compare to rohit are bowlers or all rounder, thats the biggest failure of rohit sharma his avg are worst then them and those guys take wkts to 

 

so yea keep doing - Rohit > Pandya, Ashwin and Bhuvi( whereas contribution n end result shows something else)

 

sharma has played so much abhi tak kyun kuch nhin kiya

Failure everywhere, cant beg for one more chanvces when u cant do anything in so many 

 

N when he got dropped we won, take Lords win .....again no rohit sharma ( u see the pattern)

 

Pandya ashwin, n bhuvi have done better then rohit sharma overseas...every stat will prove that . Unfortunately u cnt even cherry pick 

These are the two numbers you were supposed to mention and you put the wrong ones. Thanks for being honest finally.

For a differential of .33 you declare that Pandya is a better bat than Rohit.

And based on this you claim that Bhuvi, Ashwin and Pnadya re better bat than Rohit.

There is only one thing left to say. You are dumber than a door knob.

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3 hours ago, zen said:

To "quantify" the benefit, when you have time, may be you should post a table of runs scored, wkts taken, direct run outs impacted, and number of innings played. Assign 1 point for each run, 20 points of each wkt and 20 points of each direct run out. Divided the total by # of innings to give the value per inning score

 

PS based on above:

Pandya (19.83*6) + (3*20) = 119+60 = 179. 179/6 = 29.83 Value 

Rohit 19.50 Value 

 

So Pandya provided more (53%) value than Rohit in the series. Direct hits have not been considered in this quick analysis. Intangibles such as "never say die" spirit, along with ability to take blinders, are not even considered 

This discussion was a simple bnary one where he claimed that Pandya is better than Rohit in batting. For a 0.33 differential if that is what you claim is true then you are a gem.

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8 minutes ago, Khota said:

This discussion was a simple bnary one where he claimed that Pandya is better than Rohit in batting. For a 0.33 differential if that is what you claim is true then you are a gem.

What claim? Based on the current set up, I feel that an all rounder like Pandya is a better option for #6-7 position because of the flexibility that he provides, along with never say die attitude 

 

The value info shows that. 0.33 batting difference this series reflects badly on Rohit not Pandya. And as already mentioned, Rohit averages 15 or so overall in SA. So what are you going on and on about? Trying to clutch on to something to feel good about yourself? :rofl: 

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