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Really struggled to score . Was trying to hit from ball 1 , but end result is not that good.

He was forcing himself and trying to hit everthing and mistiming half the balls that he faced. 

Struggled in his  first game as well vs windies  .

 

Verdict:-

DK looks better than him . Should be given few more chances before conclsuing anything. 

 

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1 minute ago, velu said:

 

Really struggled to score . Was trying to hit from ball 1 , but end result is not that good.

He was forcing himself and trying to hit everthing and mistiming half the balls that he faced. 

Struggled in his  first game as well vs windies  .

 

Verdict:-

DK looks better than him . Should be given few more chances before conclsuing anything. 

 

 

Are you describing MS Dhoni?

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3 minutes ago, velu said:

 

second highest average and second highest SR in the last T20 series he played :p: 

2nd highest SR and Average since last 3 yrs you mean ?  Trico exposed these sachin chamchas..

http://www.indiancricketfans.com/forums/topic/106412-highest-sr-for-india-in-t20is-since-2016/

 

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looks a KID ...has Kiddish Attitude, should take a single of first ball and then start hitting after the third ball.

i wnt to bat and hit the first ball and was caught..my coach gave me a lecture for 3 sessions spread over three weeks as we played once a week. 

 

this guy wont suceed if he plays like this..he is trying too hard and is not confident. he has to try n score a single of first three balls and then start hitting.

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Just now, velu said:

 

second highest average and second highest SR in the last T20 series he played :p: 

Yes, most of those statistics were amassed during an innings that ultimately cost us the match. SouthAfrican rookies on same wicket demonstrated what the true par was. Even pandey looked impressive batting on that wicket. 

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Just now, mancalledsting said:

Yes, most of those statistics were amassed during an innings that ultimately cost us the match. SouthAfrican rookies on same wicket demonstrated what the true par was. Even pandey looked impressive batting on that wicket. 

 

you shld either take the stats or leave the stats :p: 

pandy and dhoni partnership - its like a guru sishya partnership 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, mancalledsting said:

Yes, most of those statistics were amassed during an innings that ultimately cost us the match. SouthAfrican rookies on same wicket demonstrated what the true par was. Even pandey looked impressive batting on that wicket. 

Those stats are from 30 innings put together.

 

Talking about that specific match..More like Chahal proved he can't bowl with wet ball without conceding 60+ runs in 4 overs.. how come that rookie didn't demonstrate how to win a T20 series at home ? Last time i checked it was India that won the series :weights:

 

Is that supposed to be a dig at pant ? Saffer Rookie proved his worth and Indian rookie turned out to be hopeless ??? Is that what you are trying to say??

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4 minutes ago, velu said:

 

you shld either take the stats or leave the stats :p: 

pandy and dhoni partnership - its like a guru sishya partnership 

 

 

This approach is only appropriate for people lacking in reasoning and analytical skills. 

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1 minute ago, Rasgulla said:

Those stats are from 30 innings put together.

 

Talking about that specific match..More like Chahal proved he can't bowl with wet ball without conceding 60+ runs in 4 overs.. how come that rookie didn't demonstrate how to win a T20 series at home ? Last time i checked it was India that won the series :weights:

OMG, not this chewt again

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Just now, velu said:

 

most of the haterz use to bring the same stats to pull him down .. 

it backfired for them :p: 

Depends on global impression also. Stats alone would lead you conclude that Karun Nair is next Graeme pollock

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3 minutes ago, mancalledsting said:

OMG, not this chewt again

It was started by a chewt who questioned stats posted by Admin:phew: Don't run away from the stats. 

 

How did rookie do in t20i decider ?? 7(17) Atleast our Pant can score run a ball in T20I than a saffer rookie. 

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7 minutes ago, mancalledsting said:

Depends on global impression also. Stats alone would lead you conclude that Karun Nair is next Graeme pollock

Doubt Stats will ever say such a thing... provide us stats that says Nair is better than Pollack. I disagree with that statement. 

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Posting this match thread, agree with Manju surprisingly 

 

Manju making a good point - play Panth as opener thats where he gets most of his runs in domestic cricket.. give him the confidence in his comfort position... 

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27 minutes ago, Rasgulla said:

Doubt Stats will ever say such a thing... provide us stats that says Nair is better than Pollack. I disagree with that statement. 

 

cfec72dea85b920f707846326bdfdbe9--crazy-

 

Graeme Pollock Test avg 60.97  First Class avg 54.67

Karun Nair Test avg 62.33 First Class avg 52.44

 

Now please follow the instructions outlined above. Your only chance for a cure. 

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9 minutes ago, Sgattick10 said:

Posting this match thread, agree with Manju surprisingly 

 

Manju making a good point - play Panth as opener thats where he gets most of his runs in domestic cricket.. give him the confidence in his comfort position... 

Why should he be played as an opener ?? When you got Rohit & Dhawan as fixed openers for India and Rahul as backup.  #4 is the only spot that's realistically open this series considering Raina will play at #3... When Virat comes back even that #4 Is taken. 

 

#5 or #6 Is where we need players :bow:Need to find someone who can bat at those spots. Not change the whole team balance for one guy. 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Rasgulla said:

Why should he be played as an opener ?? When you got Rohit & Dhawan as fixed openers for India and Rahul as backup.  #4 is the only spot that's realistically open this series considering Raina will play at #3... When Virat comes back even that #4 Is taken. 

 

#5 or #6 Is where we need players :bow:Need to find someone who can bat at those spots. Not change the whole team balance for one guy. 

 

 

Then why is he selected? Should have selected someone who regularly plays at 5, 6 and makes good scores. If u pick a youngster give him the confidence to play in their natural position, any of the seniors can come down the order and take responsibility, this is not the world cup where u cant experiment much. 

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8 minutes ago, Rasgulla said:

Why should he be played as an opener ?? When you got Rohit & Dhawan as fixed openers for India and Rahul as backup.  

In t20s, Rohit can bat in middle order. So one spot can be made in opening for Pant since he tends to do good as an opener. 

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10 minutes ago, mancalledsting said:

 

cfec72dea85b920f707846326bdfdbe9--crazy-

 

Graeme Pollock Test avg 60.97  First Class avg 54.67

Karun Nair Test avg 62.33 First Class avg 52.44

 

No please follow the instructions outlined above. Your only chance for a cure. 

Copy cat comparing a guy from 1970s to a guy who played in 2016 

 

1970s  (41 innings ) vs  2016 (7 innings ) :phehe:

*What a great comparison*

 

Butthurt.jpg

 

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Sgattick10 said:

Then why is he selected? Should have selected someone who regularly plays at 5, 6 and makes good scores. If u pick a youngster give him the confidence to play in their natural position, any of the seniors can come down the order and take responsibility, this is not the world cup where u cant experiment much. 

 He played 18 matches in the middle order (4,5)  for DD in IPL..  what are you on about ?? He can play in the middle order.. Blaming everyone and everything for his poor performances. Why would you even make such experiments when you know Dhawan and Rohit will open for sure for next 3 to 4 yrs.. This is IND team unfortunately not RP Team where everyone will drop down to comfort him. If he doesn't perform they ll get someone else in... There are many people waiting in the line. Picking him in the team is a big experiment now you want everyone and everything to confort him ??? :afraid:

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17 minutes ago, Rasgulla said:

Copy cat comparing a guy from 1970s to a guy who played in 2016 

 

1970s  (41 innings ) vs  2016 (7 innings ) :phehe:

*What a great comparison*

 

Butthurt.jpg

 

 

 

 

lol..dumbass. In the post quoted to me about Dhoni's great statistics, SR and average were the only parameters mentioned to me. On that basis I gave a comparative stat from test and first class cricket. Sample size wasn't looked at. But since you're so concerned about sample size, Im hoping it means you withhold judgement of the first 40 innings of Rishabh Pant's career. 

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I don't think DK has got enougb chances in T20s but he has played in a lot of ODIs and flattered to deceive. Hence, IMO I would rather see someone get a go instead of him.

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25 minutes ago, mancalledsting said:

lol..dumbass. In the post quoted to me about Dhoni's great statistics, SR and average were the only parameters mentioned to me. On that basis I gave a comparative stat from test and first class cricket. Sample size wasn't looked at. But since you're so concerned about sample size, Im hoping it means you withhold judgement of the first 40 innings of Rishabh Pant's career. 

 

1 hour ago, mancalledsting said:

Yes, most of those statistics were amassed during an innings that ultimately cost us the match.

Firstly *Dumbass* it was you who blamed the a guy with Highest SR(India) for that loss. When it wasn't even his fault

 

Secondly you tried to compare a guy who played in 1970s to a guy who played in 2016 :phehe: That's  41 innings vs 7 innings.. WTF you mean SR and Average were only mentioned do you want him to mention Matches + Balls faced e.t.c :wall:  

 

 comparative stat ???   It was you who made a stupid comparison find a better one atleast if you want to compare.. Sample size does effect average and SR..How freaking ridiculous is that  1970s 41 innings vs 7 innings in 2016. 

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1 minute ago, Rasgulla said:

 

Firstly *Dumbass* it was you who blamed the a guy with Highest SR(India) for that loss. When it wasn't even his fault

 

Secondly you tried to compare a guy who played in 1970s to a guy who played in 2016 :phehe: That's  41 innings vs 7 innings.. WTF you mean SR and Average were only mentioned do you want him to mention Matches + Balls faced e.t.c :wall:  

 

It was you who made a stupid comparison find a better one atleast if you want to compare.. How freaking ridiculous is that . 1970s 41 innings vs 7 innings in 2016. 

the person I was discussing with before you farted your way into this conversation said:


'you shld either take the stats or leave the stats'

 

I gave the Karun Nair/Pollock example to show how inappropriate that statement was. Now your telling me that's a stupid comparison. Congratulations dumbass...that was the whole point of me bringing up that BS stat. So the thing you're criticising me for is the crux of my original point. Lol.. can it get any worse with you? What turd will you drop next?

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1 minute ago, mancalledsting said:

the person I was discussing with before you farted your way into this conversation said:


'you shld either take the stats or leave the stats'

 

I gave the Karun Nair/Pollock example to show how inappropriate that statement was. Now your telling me that's a stupid comparison. Congratulations dumbass...that was the whole point of me bringing up that BS stat. So the thing you're criticising me for is the crux of my original point. Lol.. can it get any worse with you? What turd will you drop next?

Unfortunately you are not on a honeymoon with velu. This is public domain. People will call you out  if you make Dumbass posts like those. 

 

Just because he asked you to post stats related to his post that doesn't mean you will post crap from 1970s and compare that ridiculous sample to modern day cricket. Is this the part where you generally lose it and start talking rubbish ??  Glad you atleast agreed thats some BS stat you posted.. You potato (PG) 

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4 minutes ago, Rasgulla said:

Unfortunately you are not on a honeymoon with velu. This is public domain. People will call you out  if you make Dumbass posts like those. 

 

Just because he asked you to post stats related to his post that doesn't mean you will post crap from 1970s and compare that ridiculous sample to modern day cricket. Is this the part where you generally lose it and start talking rubbish ??  Glad you atleast agreed thats some BS stat you posted.. You potato (PG) 

stats are the same i.e. numerical averages, whether they are from 1970 or 2010s. What you're talking about when not being able to compare stats from different eras is the need for wider interpretation (part of which is global impression). So again that takes me back to my original point, you can't go by stats alone. Again, another post by you proving my original point. The turds just keep on coming from you

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56 minutes ago, Rasgulla said:

 He played 18 matches in the middle order (4,5)  for DD in IPL..  what are you on about ?? He can play in the middle order.. Blaming everyone and everything for his poor performances. Why would you even make such experiments when you know Dhawan and Rohit will open for sure for next 3 to 4 yrs.. This is IND team unfortunately not RP Team where everyone will drop down to comfort him. If he doesn't perform they ll get someone else in... There are many people waiting in the line. Picking him in the team is a big experiment now you want everyone and everything to confort him ??? :afraid:

Lol says a Dhoni fan...who's place in the side is itself a neverending experiment. 

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7 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Knifes are out ,if Pandey's been gifted so many chances why not Pant..he deserves to play in top four continuously for a longer run ....he will come good

Cos he has his guru's blessings :phehe:

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25 minutes ago, UnknownGenius said:

Vastly over--rated

 

People's hate of ODI cricket's best ever wicket keeper Batsman Dhoni has caused them to over-rate Pant, Samson etc

 

Not fit to lace Dhoni's shoes

I want dhoni out now and retired . Never play for india again . Period . Full stop 

 

but no doubts on icf the hate for dhoni has meant massive over rating of some keepers in India fc cricket . Pant is very over rated . Kid is a few season away form being ready imo . Every time sit down to watch him wanting to be thrilled but always dissapointed. At times he bats like a blindness slogger . Heaving across line and losing body shape , very over rated 

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8 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Knifes are out ,if Pandey's been gifted so many chances why not Pant..he deserves to play in top four continuously for a longer run ....he will come good

In domestic cricket every time seen him heaves across line and slogs . Will this really work against starc and co ?

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10 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Knifes are out ,if Pandey's been gifted so many chances why not Pant..he deserves to play in top four continuously for a longer run ....he will come good

Infact its the opposite. He has been crowned as second coming of Bradman on ICF without even playing any international cricket. He has to perform for a fair amount of time to be even considered a permanent for top 15 selections. So instead of crowning him and giving all special attention, he should have been treated same way as other newbies/in line players. 

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8 minutes ago, mancalledsting said:

stats are the same i.e. numerical averages, whether they are from 1970 or 2010s. What you're talking about when not being able to compare stats from different eras is the need for wider interpretation (part of which is global impression). So again that takes me back to my original point, you can't go by stats alone. Again, another post by you proving my original point. The turds just keep on coming from you

More like my turd is falling on your ridiculous comparisions. Stats are reliable when you use it in right way. Not compare crap from 50 yrs with someone who played 6 x more matches. You have no point. :phehe: 

 

What's next find a guy who played 2 matches and compare his stats with 340 matches and say hey look "I proved it". He pointed our stats for last series but you went full on "mancalledsting" mode..

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1 hour ago, mancalledsting said:

 

cfec72dea85b920f707846326bdfdbe9--crazy-

 

Graeme Pollock Test avg 60.97  First Class avg 54.67

Karun Nair Test avg 62.33 First Class avg 52.44

 

Now please follow the instructions outlined above. Your only chance for a cure. 

 I understand what you were pointing out to them regarding stats.........but ooooooh that is sacrilege puting Graeme Pollock and Nair In the same sentence ...lol 

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17 minutes ago, Rasgulla said:

More like my turd is falling on your ridiculous comparisions. Stats are reliable when you use it in right way. Not compare crap from 50 yrs with someone who played 6 x more matches. You have no point. :phehe: 

 

What's next find a guy who played 2 matches and compare his stats with 340 matches and say hey look "I proved it". He pointed our stats for last series but you went full on "mancalledsting" mode..

well done, Keep up the MSD chamcha giri 

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