Brainfade Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 What a beauty!! velu, Laaloo, Turning_track and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment
kira Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Kapil was better than every Pakistani bowler except may be Wasim, his stats took a hit because he had to single handedly carry the pathetic bowling attack and he also was too ethical to indulge in ball tampering SandeepMotta, King Tendulkar, Rightarmfast and 7 others 1 8 1 Link to comment
Laaloo Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Too bad he bad no support Suhaan and Rightarmfast 1 1 Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 2 hours ago, kira said: Kapil was better than every Pakistani bowler except may be Wasim, his stats took a hit because he had to single handedly carry the pathetic bowling attack and he also was too ethical to indulge in ball tampering I kind of agree that he was a better bowler than Imran and Waqar. But Wasim is on a different level. Also, Kapil should have never extended his playing years! Surely, if he had a decent bowling partner, rather 2-3 decent pace bowlers with him, he might have been an ATG bowler. LORD_analyst, Laaloo and Bilal78 1 2 Link to comment
Singh bling Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 What beauty by Kapil What surprises me Imran inspired so many youngsters but Kapil failed to inspire Indian kids particularly strong Jat Gujjar belt Link to comment
Bublu Bhuyan Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, kira said: Kapil was better than every Pakistani bowler except may be Wasim, his stats took a hit because he had to single handedly carry the pathetic bowling attack and he also was too ethical to indulge in ball tampering Edited March 9, 2018 by Bublu Bhuyan Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 7 hours ago, Bilal78 said: Yeh, average of 28 is better than average of 22 and 23. kapil was the biggest truddler I have seen. David Gower used to smash him to all parts Whatever makes you sleep better at night my brother! And yeah, quit reacting to your own posts... That too reactions like a trophy :) It kind of gets embarassing for us to see you make a fool of yourself! Honestly :) Bilal78, Laaloo, Peshust and 2 others 2 1 2 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Kapil dev had amazing control over each of his deliveries. His action is highly repeatable. He would bowl the same length again and again. I can never forget his battles with Dean Jones who was the new Richards in the one-dayers during his playing time. Another match where he clean bowled Hadlee in the 50th over was also a thriller. Link to comment
NameGoesHere Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said: Kapil dev had amazing control over each of his deliveries. His action is highly repeatable.... Indeed, and it was smooth and easy. 131 Tests and he never missed one because of fitness issues. The only time he missed one was when they dropped him for an "irresponsible shot" but it was political too. Turning_track 1 Link to comment
TheWall Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 One of the best yorker ever bowled.... Link to comment
Deleted_User_1 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 (edited) Kapil’s average is great considering he bowled on fast bowlers’ graveyard on Indian pitches in the late 70s and early 80s. Outfields were in horrendous shape back then, and players used to avoid sliding as it would peel the skin from the flesh!! So the ball got scuffed up on all sides pretty quickly. And unlike the the Pak brethren he did not resort to ball tampering to aid him. Considering the rest of the Indian bowlers, he was head and shoulders above his generation. If he was born in the current era, he would have had more pace and a better average and could have been a ATG on bowling alone. Kapil and Sunny showed the way for the rest of India how to bat and bowl against quality teams back then when we were not that good. Just think of this, if Pak trio of Imran, Waqar and Wasim did not resort to ball tampering as much as they did, what would their legacy be. Would their record be as good as it was? In the 1982-83 series, Imran ran circles around the Indian batsman with prodigious movement, a lot of which have been alleged to massive ball tampering. These Pakistani madarchods have no shame!! Edited March 10, 2018 by dandaroy TheWall 1 Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 What a fantastic player . Kapil Dev World super star TheWall 1 Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) Well, 5 factors need to be taken into account while analysing Kapil the bowler. 1. Longevity- At one point after bowling 21000 balls(Imran bowled only some 19500 balls) , Kapil's avg: stood at 28.86 . And when some body goes on to bowl a mammoth 27000+ balls(especially an allrounder) it is just natural that avg: would dip a lot further due to terminal decline. 2. Kapil had very mediocre bowling support at the other end when compared to several great bowlers. 3.Kapil played non stop cricket .Huge work density had its impact on his stats.This factor is emphatically reflected in the fact that after 62 tests Kapil's wkts tally stood at 4 wkts/test(in just 5 years and 5 months). Then his knee injury and related surgery happend.He didn't take adequate time to recover and straight away played which resulted in 2.46 wkts only in his next 26 tests( 64 wkts in 26 tests).All in all, where as Imran took long 21 years to bowl 19500 balls ,Kapil bowled those no: of balls in just 8 years and 5 months. 4. Kapil never resorted to unethical tampering methods. 5. Even against all the above adversities he had the best bowling avg: against WI , the undoubtedly best team of his era or perhaps all time ,among FAB 4. It is based on such contexts that a bowler like Kapil need to be analysed.To me he is easily a 26.85 avg: bowler And hence for me he is the best all rounder among the FAB 4 of 80s. Edited March 12, 2018 by rtmohanlal Rightarmfast, Laaloo and Brainfade 1 2 Link to comment
TheWall Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 On 10/03/2018 at 1:37 AM, Bilal78 said: He wasn’t really. Stfu.blind fellow... Bilal78 1 Link to comment
TheWall Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 On 10/03/2018 at 1:37 AM, Bilal78 said: He was a crap truddler, even Faislabad u10 Bowler is better than Kapil off spinner Dev. Kapil was one of the best allrounder.. and not a cheater... ball tamperer, terrorist suporter n womaniser like that piece of shyte from the gutter - imran khan... Link to comment
TheWall Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, dandaroy said: Kapil’s average is great considering he bowled on fast bowlers’ graveyard on Indian pitches in the late 70s and early 80s. Outfields were in horrendous shape back then, and players used to avoid sliding as it would peel the skin from the flesh!! So the ball got scuffed up on all sides pretty quickly. And unlike the the Pak brethren he did not resort to ball tampering to aid him. Considering the rest of the Indian bowlers, he was head and shoulders above his generation. If he was born in the current era, he would have had more pace and a better average and could have been a ATG on bowling alone. Kapil and Sunny showed the way for the rest of India how to bat and bowl against quality teams back then when we were not that good. Just think of this, if Pak trio of Imran, Waqar and Wasim did not resort to ball tampering as much as they did, what would their legacy be. Would their record be as good as it was? In the 1982-83 series, Imran ran circles around the Indian batsman with prodigious movement, a lot of which have been alleged to massive ball tampering. These Pakistani madarchods have no shame!! Well said...!!!! Edited March 11, 2018 by TheWall Bilal78 1 Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 9 hours ago, dandaroy said: Kapil’s average is great considering he bowled on fast bowlers’ graveyard on Indian pitches in the late 70s and early 80s. Outfields were in horrendous shape back then, and players used to avoid sliding as it would peel the skin from the flesh!! So the ball got scuffed up on all sides pretty quickly. And unlike the the Pak brethren he did not resort to ball tampering to aid him. Considering the rest of the Indian bowlers, he was head and shoulders above his generation. If he was born in the current era, he would have had more pace and a better average and could have been a ATG on bowling alone. Kapil and Sunny showed the way for the rest of India how to bat and bowl against quality teams back then when we were not that good. Just think of this, if Pak trio of Imran, Waqar and Wasim did not resort to ball tampering as much as they did, what would their legacy be. Would their record be as good as it was? In the 1982-83 series, Imran ran circles around the Indian batsman with prodigious movement, a lot of which have been alleged to massive ball tampering. These Pakistani madarchods have no shame!! The legacy, especially of chronic bottle topper Khan who was the mentor of his two W disciples has taken a severe beating .For instance I never can accept him as a great bowler any more in my mind as I used to once .Just can't accept the credentials of some body who cheated his way to greatness. As simple as that. I am sure there would be lots and lots of others who believe in fair play and thinks the same way as I does.For me, Imran is the equivalent of Canada athlete Ben Johnson who was stripped of his medal in 88 Olympics for 'PERFORMANCE ENHANCING DRUG consumption' cheating. Rightarmfast, TheWall and Laaloo 3 Link to comment
TheWall Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Just now, Bilal78 said: Even Rumman Raees is better than Kapil Dev, David Gower rated Imran higher than Dev and Botham, Gower smashed The truddler Dev. Wake up from ur dreams..... Link to comment
TheWall Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, Bilal78 said: Imran is better than the whole of India combined. ru stoned.... Did u leave ur veain in the gutter itself.. or i dont have a brain... Btw who the * is imran... i know he is a pimp n politician who used to tamper balls while playing for terroristan..a.k.a pakistan... Link to comment
TheWall Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Bilal78 said: You wake up from yours, Kapil isn’t even in the top 30 fast bowlers of all time, he was jus a mediocre truddler. Thats only for some braindead Pakistani like you n nobody cares about u ppl... You Pakistani r fit to be with a begging bowl n kneel in front of Indians n lick what we spit... Edited March 11, 2018 by TheWall Link to comment
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