mancalledsting Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I know he's only played against Sri Lanka and Bangladesh (however playing spin bowling is their strength) in his limited career so far, but have been very impressed by his temperament, his ability to anticipate what the batsmen is trying to do and his skill to execute the intended delivery. Heard his batting is good too, if so, he could become our wild card pick come 2019 World Cup. I know Chahal and Kuldeep are our attacking options overseas but I feel on rain affected games, they can be a huge liability as control for leg spinners with a wet ball can be a major issue. With Sundar's simple and repeatable action, I reckon he can even maintain his skill during rain affected games as he did the other night with dew on the ball (when Chahal was struggling). Jadeja's bowling I feel is ineffective in ODIs and Ashwin's fielding is a liability. Either way, the more competition for spots the better. nevada, Gollum, The Dark Horse and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Washington is The Next Big Thing about to happen in Indian Cricket Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Guy's a gem. Glad the great nidahas trophy happened. Link to comment
Austin 3:!6 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 World cup is too ahead thinking. He needs to be on that Eng tour for ODIs along with Gill. Link to comment
Vilander Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 how will he play in other continents ? thats the crucial bit. Link to comment
wanted_desi Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 We will not be taking 3 spinners to England. He could be tried as back up to Chahal/Kuldeep although. Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 6 batsmen + 4 Pacers + 1 AR (Pandya) + Dhoni + Karthik leaves room for just 2 spinners in the squad. Will be very hard for him to get in ahead of either of Kuldeep and Chahal. Link to comment
Sgattick10 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I'll pick him ahead of Chahal, this 18 year old lad has bigger brain and doesnt get flustered. RAZPOR and DHONI_FANN 2 Link to comment
ShebbySB Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Really impressed with his bowling,he's athletic and fields well.He is a hitter with the willow in hand so perfect man to bat at 7,8.I agree with OP he should be selected and probably he'll get selected.He along with Pandya can give us immense depth. Dhawan Rohit Kohli (C) Pandey Dhoni (Wk) Raina Pandya Sundar BK Kuldeep Bumrah Reserves:- Rahul, DK, Chahal/Axar, best available seamer at that time. That's my squad of 15. I really like the look of this line up. Dhoni is sure to play till WC19. Only decent option or back up option is DK. He proved he's ahead of Pant atm. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Indian spin department is nicely evolving. Ashwin,Jadeja, Kuldeep, Chahal, Axar, Sundar. Then we have guys like Shreyas, Nadeem Link to comment
mancalledsting Posted March 14, 2018 Author Share Posted March 14, 2018 He is so effective because of the following: 1. he is tall and bowls with a high arm action and so gets a lot of flight and dip, something modern off spinners tend to lack 2. he's capable of bowling quick Yorkers when batsmen are looking to get after him 3. he has control over the degree of turn he want in a given delivery, also has a well disguised straight ball which he bowls at an angle and so it behaves like a doosra 4. is very accurate and tends to attack the stumps 5. knows what delivery to bowl as he has good sense of where batsmen trying to hit him early days yet, I remember Axar Patel was unplayable first season of IPL and then he got sussed out. I'm hoping Washington goes from strength to strength. DHONI_FANN, nevada and ThePhenomenal1 3 Link to comment
diga Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Has he played any Odis? He may ply the next t20 world cup. Being in RCB will help Link to comment
gakgupta Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, diga said: Has he played any Odis? He may ply the next t20 world cup. Being in RCB will help yes...and he was pretty poor... He doesn't turn the ball much and he was found wanting in the ODI's.... from what i could see, he will be effective, if batsmen go after him else he will be a economical bowler at best Link to comment
fineleg Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Good bowler, but he is only 18. Will have to come back into form, once intl batsmen figure him out and attack him. Let him evolve, too early to say "WC 2019", ICF-hype statements should calm down. saik 1 Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) A v good article on his background. His dad named him after his mentor ex Army man PD Washington . Quite an inspiring cricketer with a humble background. He was not selected for U-19 WC, but was encouraged to play domestics by the National Coach (you know who). Domestic cricket experience is still the only way for national selection. Proves that It is is still very good model. U-19 heroes shouldn't fast tracked, they should play a season or two of domestics, faring against National team drop-outs. http://www.firstpost.com/firstcricket/sports-news/nidahas-trophy-2018-washington-sundar-proves-he-is-no-ordinary-talent-with-superlative-show-against-bangladesh-4391831.html Quote That Ranji debut was an important milestone for the family for he had accomplished what his father had only dreamt of. His father, M Sundar, was a good all-rounder in the TNCA League and had made it to the Tamil Nadu Ranji probables, but never into the playing eleven. Thus the father, who had a big hand in coaching the son, vicariously enjoyed the latter’s Ranji Trophy debut. Sundar’s father, who hailed from a very poor family in Chennai, was fortunate that his childhood cricket-playing exploits on Triplicane beach had caught the eyes of PD Washington, an ex-army man who lived in the same locality. The soldier liked what he saw and took it upon himself to fund the boy’s schooling and cricket. He lived to see his ward play good league cricket and make it to the state team’s Ranji Trophy probables. However, he passed away in 1999. Subsequently, when M Sundar and his wife were blessed with a child, they named him Washington in memory of the mentor. Washington Sundar, who was coached by former TN batsman M Senthilnathan, soon registered his first century in first class cricket: 159 vs Tripura in Ranji Trophy. By then he was already making waves with his bowling. He dismissed Steve Smith and Glenn Maxwell while giving away 23 runs in his eight overs for Board President’s XI against the visiting Australian team. Edited March 15, 2018 by coffee_rules The Dark Horse 1 Link to comment
mancalledsting Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/22768570/washington-sundar-emerging-tournament-mvp Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 On 14/03/2018 at 6:35 PM, Sgattick10 said: I'll pick him ahead of Chahal, this 18 year old lad has bigger brain and doesnt get flustered. And the most stupid post of 2018 chahal has been revelation for us in white ball cricket . Proved it against proper string teams and in sa Washington based on some games v 2 worse teams in world cricket in ahead of him jeeez Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 This kinds of series scare me . Could end up with some duds for wc cos impressed v crap team manish pandey scoring runs is classic example Link to comment
mancalledsting Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 30 minutes ago, King Tendulkar said: This kinds of series scare me . Could end up with some duds for wc cos impressed v crap team manish pandey scoring runs is classic example Chill dude, Same logic doesn't necessarily apply to spin bowlers in this tourney. Sri Lankan's (3-0 victory at home vs Aus in tests) and Bangladeshis (1-1 draw at home to England and Australia in tests) are solid players of spin. Therefore this counts as a decent performance. Added to the fact the wickets have been very flat. In 2009 when Bangladesh played England home and away, Tamil Iqbal destroyed Graeme Swann (during his peak years). Sundar cleaned him up the other night when he was looking to go after him, so let's not diminish these performances. Backing him is not solely based on these performances alone. He did well in IPL last year (including the final) and got the wickets of Steve Smith and Maxwell during a BPXI game. He's also done well in Ranji. He's also regarded as one of the stars of his cohort in the domestic scene so early signs are good Sgattick10 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 8 hours ago, mancalledsting said: Chill dude, Same logic doesn't necessarily apply to spin bowlers in this tourney. Sri Lankan's (3-0 victory at home vs Aus in tests) and Bangladeshis (1-1 draw at home to England and Australia in tests) are solid players of spin. Therefore this counts as a decent performance. Added to the fact the wickets have been very flat. In 2009 when Bangladesh played England home and away, Tamil Iqbal destroyed Graeme Swann (during his peak years). Sundar cleaned him up the other night when he was looking to go after him, so let's not diminish these performances. Backing him is not solely based on these performances alone. He did well in IPL last year (including the final) and got the wickets of Steve Smith and Maxwell during a BPXI game. He's also done well in Ranji. He's also regarded as one of the stars of his cohort in the domestic scene so early signs are good Absolutely true. If you go back to CT match against Srilanka they played our spinners with ridiculous ease. mancalledsting 1 Link to comment
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