Trichromatic Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Earlier I though life ban is distant possibility, but what has been emerging now doesn't good for players at all. This is what different reports and news articles have been suggesting now. Warner has been main guy for tampering the ball for long time. Suspected modus operandi has been that Warner would tape his fingers and once those tapes were abrasive with dirt and other objects, he would shine the ball. During this process of shining, part of ball would be scuffed up. This would have hardly look suspicious as process of shining is similar to what everyone does as well as using tape is common. There have been question about Warner's tapes as some doubted why he has so many. At that time he defended himself by saying that tapes have names of wife and daughter. This happened 2 weeks earlier.https://wwos.nine.com.au/2018/03/11/19/52/secret-meaning-behind-david-warners-hand-tape-cricket Not sure how much truth is in these claims, but reports say that Warner boasted about these methods to England players after Ashes defeat. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5543331/Disgraced-cricketer-David-Warner-tampered-ball-Ashes.html When Starc and co were getting lot of swing in Ashes with drop in pitches and lush green outfield, people raised questions. If it happened in subcontinent then not many people would have raised their eyebrows, but to do so in Australia that too in 30th over was always going to create doubts. Starc got lot of swing in first test against SA and this created suspicions again. Aussies changed their ball polisher and assigned the job to Bancroft after some dressing room attendant saw Warner strapping sand papers Fannie de Viliers who works for super sports worked with the team to narrow it down to Bancroft once they were alarmed by the swing. They instructed cameraman to keep an eye on Bancroft and once he made mistake it was all over. That's why I mentiond in other thread that tampering can be caught in away matches only as host broadcasters won't go for witchhunt like this and even with all the HD cameras it's not easy to catch the cheating as sometimes it may involve regular processes seeming very normal to eyes. https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/broadcaster-claims-he-tipped-off-cameramen-20180326-p4z6cd.html Quote Former South African fast bowler Fanie de Villiers says he instructed camera operators to look for Australian ball tampering on day three of the third Test, having suspected the Australians were using underhanded tactics. De Villiers is working for a broadcaster in South Africa and claims he believed the tourists must have been up to something given how early they were getting reverse swing. All these are reports and once investigation is complete, we will know more. But these indicate that this incident is not some random "caught on camera" event, rather this run and chase game has been going on for some time. Lot of people involved probably suspected this, however it was never easy to get hold of the guy and method just by looking footage due to the method being employed. IMO, if the investigation reveals this systematic long time cheating, then both Smith and Warner will down deep and more people including Starc, Lyon and Hazlewood could be in trouble. If it inconclusive and limited to this particular match then they may escape with lighter punishment. Lehman would go in any case. Straight Drive, GoldenSun, Unstable Joe and 4 others 7 Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Some cricketing and bowling experts were proclaiming on ICF that Indians bowlers didnt have the zing like Starc and co.They couldnt take wickets like them. Still sticking with the same theory, you guys? DHONI_FANN, beetle, Peshust and 6 others 3 6 Link to comment
velu Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Cameron Bancroft caught allegedly pocketing sugar during Ashes https://www.sbs.com.au/news/video-surfaces-of-bancroft-pouring-sugar-into-pocket-during-ashes GoldenSun 1 Link to comment
Lala Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 We cannot exactly say they had been tampered the ball for long time. If so, how did they lose to SL 0-3? Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said: Some cricketing and bowling experts were proclaiming on ICF that Indians bowlers didnt have the zing like Starc and co.They couldnt take wickets like them. Still sticking with the same theory, you guys? Shows the difference between fans and expert. Not many posters could have doubted Aussie bowling, but who have actually played cricket knew that something was going on and have to give credit to that super super sport team for working on this and finally nailing them. Rightarmfast, TheWall, GoldenSun and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment
Popular Post Trichromatic Posted March 26, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 26, 2018 Just now, Lala said: We cannot exactly say they had been tampered the ball for long time. If so, how did they lose to SL 0-3? They couldn't tamper the bat? DHONI_FANN, vvvslaxman, dial_100 and 9 others 10 2 Link to comment
sourab10forever Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Lala said: We cannot exactly say they had been tampered the ball for long time. If so, how did they lose to SL 0-3? They were trashed by SL(the weakest Asian team currently) 0-3 despite them tampering with the ball...damn Aussies really suck in Asia big time. TheWall 1 Link to comment
velu Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 25 minutes ago, kira said: thought of posting this .. not ozzymans best though Link to comment
nevada Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Obviously, why would any sensible person believe Smith's word that this was their first time? Link to comment
wanted_desi Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 If Oz won't be cheating this time around when we tour, we can win the series. Oh series win in Australia, i would take that over World Cup. cowboysfan 1 Link to comment
saik Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 4 hours ago, Lala said: We cannot exactly say they had been tampered the ball for long time. If so, how did they lose to SL 0-3? Due to bad batting. Link to comment
Bigg Brother Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 (edited) Obviously they have been doing this since long time.Actually there is nothing like leadership group. This is pure BS created by the baby faced yet cunning Steven Smith to save the arse of his coach as well as other players..The stand in captain Tim Paine is also a noob.Who knows that He wasnt part of Smith's so called Leadership group.And How this leadership group of 3 or 4 players decide to tamper??By isolating themselves in dressing room from other 8 players and whispering in one another's ears??No..This is plain and simple,Every single player knows about this and they have been doing this since long time,as I can recollect in the latest Ashes Mitchell Marsh suddenly started bowling like second coming of Waqar When there was nothing happening half an hour before that..There is one video of Bancroft putting the sugar granuels in his pocket in dressing room in ashes series is resurfacing on Social media..So it is pure BS by Steve Smith.Even Lehaman had guilty face rather than Shocked face when cameraman caught it and the bald guy got to watch it on his screen and send Handscomb to inform Bancroft..Hell,even Handscomb was talking to Bancroft like"Hey dude we are caught,our ass is gonna be on fire,better hide that thing you have been rubbing on the ball.."Who conveys the message to ball tamperer with face like that!! Edited March 26, 2018 by Bigg Brother Link to comment
Hydra Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 And the rest of the world are innocent? OK then. Link to comment
Hydra Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 (edited) And the BCI called the umpires racist, but I forget Indians are innocent of all wrongdoings. Edited March 26, 2018 by Hydra GoldenSun 1 Link to comment
dial_100 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 ^ I knew this was coming. Unbelievable. Turning_track 1 Link to comment
LORD_analyst Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 7 hours ago, Hydra said: And the BCI called the umpires racist, but I forget Indians are innocent of all wrongdoings. ffs.....tendulkar has tampered with the balls of pakistani bowlers enough times in his whole -long career DHONI_FANN, Turning_track and TheWall 3 Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 7 hours ago, Hydra said: And the BCI called the umpires racist, but I forget Indians are innocent of all wrongdoings. He was cleaning the seam. Granted that it should have been done in the presence of the umpire, but it doesn't change the way the ball swings. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, The Dark Horse said: He was cleaning the seam. Granted that it should have been done in the presence of the umpire, but it doesn't change the way the ball swings. and a wet ball does not swing. Rightarmfast 1 Link to comment
chewy Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Bloody hell, need to question all of Smith’s games as captain, especially all the ones in Australia what about World Cup win 2015?, Australia literally won it on the back of Starc’s brilliance In 2015 Aus had both Starc and Johnsen Link to comment
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