Suhaan Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 "No country for trundlers" hold the slogan and scream Mosher, speedheat and express bowling 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhaan Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 2 hours ago, express bowling said: I told you RAFbhai that Avesh is bowling really quick there days. He was always quick last ipl he bowled manyy ones in the 142-143 k bracket..he is growing as his pace with bowling muscle getting stronger express bowling, Mosher and Rightarmfast 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, Suhaan said: "No country for trundlers" hold the slogan and scream You want Avesh, Nagarkoti, Khaleel, Mavi You will get Unadkat, Kaul and Chahar Suhaan, Mosher and velu 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: I wonder if Nagarkoti when 22-23 will be a express pace bowler like Lee etc. Nagarkoti has the potential to be a 140 k to 155 k pacer if he can stay fit. Rightarmfast, Mosher, Suhaan and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rightarmfast Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 28 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: I wonder if Nagarkoti when 22-23 will be a express pace bowler like Lee etc. Most likely. IF he stays fit. express bowling and Suhaan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S_pace Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Rajpoot got MoM. Deserved it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandeepMotta Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Disappointed with Sran, seems to have a fast bowlers physique but their seems to be no effort to bowl quick. express bowling, Rightarmfast, Mosher and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 8 hours ago, express bowling said: That would be good speed in 5 day matches. Most pacers who bowl that speed ( as their quickest balls ) in T20s end up bowling much slower in the longer formats. Saw Chahar bowling 122 k to 135 k in the last Ranji match I saw him in ... although there were talks that he had increased his pace. That was few years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 3 hours ago, rkt.india said: That was few years back. I think it was late 2016... after Chahar increased his pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, express bowling said: I think it was late 2016... after Chahar increased his pace. And he is bowling even quicker now. This IPL he is clocking his quickest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoverDrive Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Imagine guy like Avesh on fast bouncy track. He would have killed Elgar in Wanderers themask, Rightarmfast and express bowling 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 12 minutes ago, rkt.india said: And he is bowling even quicker now. This IPL he is clocking his quickest. Bowlers like Chahar and Kaul usually bowl quicker in T20s. Chahar is bowling 130 k to 140 k/ 142 k in this IPL. But, just like Kaul, he bowls 122 k to 135 k / 137 k in 5 day matches. Chahar does not have either a high arm action or height.... hence lacks natural bounce. He depends almost entirely on conventional swing till now. I prefer all-condition pacers more. Suhaan, Rightarmfast, Mosher and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 17 minutes ago, CoverDrive said: Imagine guy like Avesh on fast bouncy track. He would have killed Elgar in Wanderers it will be interesting to see if he can maintain the pace when he has to bowl 20 overs a day. He is a power bowler and such bowlers need more strength and conditioning than bowlers like Steyn, Lee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Just now, express bowling said: Bowlers like Chahar and Kaul usually bowl quicker in T20s. Chahar is bowling 130 k to 140 k/ 142 k in this IPL. But, just like Kaul, he bowls 122 k to 135 k / 137 k in 5 day matches. Chahar does not have either a high arm action or height.... hence lacks natural bounce. He depends almost entirely on conventional swing till now. I prefer all-condition pacers more. Chahar is not short, at least 5'11". He is as tall as Umesh, who is mostly bowling the same pace. Umesh too does not have high arm action, neither Shami who is shorter. Maintaining pace over a period of time depends on fitness and bowling action. Chahar has a better bowling action than Kaul and far better runup. Has better basics and looks far stronger than Kaul. This is because he has worked hard on becoming stronger and bowl quick. His round armish action is very suitable to sustain pace around 85 mph for a longer period. The most important things is he gets movement when most others don't and he got bounce too in this IPL. Check the delivery where Watson dropped the catch in slips in the last game. It just flew through with extra bounce from length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 27 minutes ago, CoverDrive said: Imagine guy like Avesh on fast bouncy track. He would have killed Elgar in Wanderers Avesh Khan is perhaps the most hostile pacer in India now. Apart from genuine pace , he has height, bounce and seam movement. Seems to bowl jaffas and hostile deliveries almost every over. He is sufficiently accurate too and has the ability to pick wickets as we saw in the U19 WC. Should be a part of Team India's pool of pacers. He was sent to SA as one of the 4 practice pacers ( the other 3 being the quicker India A pacers ). That means he has already caught the eyeballs of the selectors and our Team management. This is good news. Suhaan, Mosher, Rightarmfast and 3 others 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 13 minutes ago, express bowling said: Avesh Khan is perhaps the most hostile pacer in India now. Apart from genuine pace , he has height, bounce and seam movement. Seems to bowl jaffas and hostile deliveries almost every over. He is sufficiently accurate too and has the ability to pick wickets as we saw in the U19 WC. Should be a part of Team India's pool of pacers. He was sent to SA as one of the 4 practice pacers ( the other 3 being the quicker India A pacers ). That means he has already caught the eyeballs of the selectors and our Team management. This is good news. In the case of Avesh, we first need to see if he can maintain that pace because he is a power bowler who tend to fluctuate a lot in pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 10 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Chahar is not short, at least 5'11". He is aan tall as Umesh, who is mostlyand good wrist action.wling the same pace. Umesh too does nnot have high arm action, Lack of natural bounce has always been a problem with Umesh. Umesh bowls the same pace in all formats because he has natural pace. Those seamers who don't have natural pace bowl quickest in T20s and slowest in tests ... like Bhuvi. 10 minutes ago, rkt.india said: neither Shami who is shorter. Shami is short but has a highish arm action and good wrist whip. He has always been a bouncy bowler. Moreover, he has natural pace and bowls quick even when injured. 10 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Maintaining pace over a period of time depends on fitness and bowling action. The most important factor for sustaining pace is having natural pace. Having closely watched speeds of bowlers in test matches over so many years ... I have rarely seen bowlers who have become quicker at an older age, from being medium pacers , to have sustained pace in test matches. ( only clear exception is Ryan Harris ). The promotee bowlers ( in terms of pace ) almost invariably end up losing pace again after any injury etc. 10 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Chahar has a better bowling action than Kaul and far better runup. Has better basics and looks far stronger than Kaul. This is because he has worked hard on becoming stronger and bowl quick. His round armish action is very suitable to sustain pace around 85 mph for a longer period. Let me see him sustain pace in a 5 day match ... then I will beleive it. 10 minutes ago, rkt.india said: The most important things is he gets movement when most others don't He is good at conventional swing... which is condition dependent and quite rare nowadays after the first 6 overs or so. His ability to seam the ball is just like any other and reverse swing is not his forte yet. 10 minutes ago, rkt.india said: and he got bounce too in this IPL. Check the delivery where Watson dropped the catch in slips in the last game. It just flew through with extra bounce from length. He is not a bouncy bowler and his standard deliveries have lowish bounce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 16 minutes ago, rkt.india said: In the case of Avesh, we first need to see if he can maintain that pace because he is a power bowler who tend to fluctuate a lot in pace. There is a good possibility that Avesh will bowl a bit slower in tests ( as of today ) because he is a power bowler. But, he bowls a very heavy ball and bowls hostile deliveries and jaffas and makes the batters hurry and hop even at 135 k to 140 k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 16 minutes ago, express bowling said: There is a good possibility that Avesh will bowl a bit slower in tests ( as of today ) because he is a power bowler. But, he bowls a very heavy ball and bowls hostile deliveries and jaffas and makes the batters hurry and hop even at 135 k to 140 k. Avesh can be 150K bowler if he maintains his fitness. Even Akhtar became a power bowler when he used to hit 150 plus KPH regularly. Only thing is strength and conditioning and recovery. BCCI needs to take care of these young 5-6 145KPH bowlers namely Avesh, Khaleel, Shivam Mavi, Nagarkoti, KM Asif, and Nathu Singh. Provide them with the best bowling coaches in the world, best strength and conditioning coaches, and best physios. Rightarmfast and MCcricket 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosher Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Thampi playing today Hope Khaleel gets to play soon. express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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