coffee_rules Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 In response to TheWire article belittling Hanuman (calling him Hanuman 2.0, Monkey-God!) didn't go too well among Internet Hindus. https://thewire.in/communalism/noidas-thriving-militant-hinduism-and-the-resurrection-of-hanuman Quote The Hindutva groups are, however, not just targeting upscale apartment complexes in Noida. The proliferation of Hindu extremism can also be seen in an image that has been glaring at us from bikes and autorickshaws and the rear windows of cars for some time now: the transformed face of India’s beloved monkey-god Hanuman. In car bazaars in Noida, the Hanuman 2.0 stickers gleam in the sun. Designed by a Mangalore-based artist in 2016, Hanuman 2.0 caught on almost immediately. The artist himself was taken aback when the sticker – which he considered only half-finished – first went viral on the streets of Bangalore. Hanuman 2.0 is not benign. The smile on his face has been replaced with strong frown lines. He radiates mean energy against a black and saffron background. His thunderous expression spells danger, and makes it clear he is no longer a server but a destroyer. A kid can be jailed in India for a FB post about Shiv Temple in Mecca, but this kind of bigotted spew on the most revered Hindu god in Hindu majority India is tolerated. Wire, theLiar needs to be handled with militancy they fear! Follow #BajrangiTwitter https://twitter.com/search?q=%23BajrangiTwitter&src=tyah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 duramen @shinrinyokugirl · 2h Few children make it through childhood without a great fear monsters, ghosts and all manner of creatures that lurk in the dark. I know what I'll tell mine. bhūta pishācha nikata nahi āvai Mahavir jab nam sunāvai Stradlater 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 (edited) ^ This. He is the original superhero of all . Edited April 6, 2018 by beetle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradlater Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Oh come on Lord Hanuman is so innocent and kind hearted. Spare the poor guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Nilanjana Bhowmick has written much worse about Hindus and India in international magazines and sites, a proud member of the tukde tukde gang. This article is very civil if you compare it to her vitriolic social media activity and past articles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 Some leftist will say, Hanuman is a VHP man.. Mahavir Vikram Bajrangi Kumati nivar sumati Ke sanghi Stradlater, gattaca, velu and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Lol what kind of stupid article is this. These useless journalists have nothing to write about and attack religion better give less attention to them than make them hit through Twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 whether hanuman is a hindu or not ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradlater Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Just now, velu said: whether hanuman is a hindu or not ? Think He was a tribal fella duped into conversion by Brahmanical Aryans. beetle, coffee_rules, G_B_ and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 This is how it starts look where it has lead pak to. This needs to be stopped now, show all this in border districts of Bangladesh not in country proper. Alam_dar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alam_dar Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 On 06/04/2018 at 10:32 PM, Vilander said: This is how it starts look where it has lead pak to. This needs to be stopped now, show all this in border districts of Bangladesh not in country proper. I am afraid it is already too late for the India too and the Indian society has already been polarized. Worst thing is when religion and politics are merged to get the power. This has already happened in India. Nevertheless, there is still a chance for India to get out of this problem, while sadly Pakistan has absolutely no chance to get out of this mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Alam_dar said: I am afraid it is already too late for the India too and the Indian society has already been polarized. Worst thing is when religion and politics are merged to get the power. This has already happened in India. Nevertheless, there is still a chance for India to get out of this problem, while sadly Pakistan has absolutely no chance to get out of this mess. India is far far far more liberal and tolerant than any Muslim majority country on this planet. We have had Muslim superstars, sportspeople, presidents, chief ministers, navy/air chiefs, chief justices, election commissioners, underworld bosses etc. In India a Hindu can convert to Islam (AR Rehman) and still be popular. A Muslim can marry and convert a Hindu lady (Azharuddin) and still go on to lead the side in 3 consecutive world cups. India is the only country in the world where there are no go areas for majority and where majority fears minority. In how many countries do you think this is possible? For many years Hindus have been subjugated by the system and forced to feel embarrassed about their culture and religion. For the 1st time in 70 years a relatively strong RW party comes to power and India is polarized LOL !!!! Ofc we have these cow lynching incidents and riots but we are a nation of 130 crore people, such events are too minuscule considering our population, moreover the minority community too instigates trouble in many cases only for media to downplay it. This is not the 1st instance of religion and politics getting merged in India, has been going on for decades now, primarily because Indian concept of secularism is different from the western concept. Hindus are the most tolerant set of people on the planet, Hindus are the most non violent people, Hindus are the most open minded......... these are indisputable facts and hence India can never be equivalent of any Muslim majority country. Modi is more liberal than every single Muslim leader on this planet, BJP is more tolerant than the most tolerant government in any Islamic country, even the most rabid Hindutva type is no worse than an average Muslim. He is here primarily because of Congress ineptitude (plus extreme shift of political pendulum towards the left) and after a few years some opposition leader will come, Indian politics is a cycle, yin and yang...if Modi is the most polarizing figure in our history tells you something, doesn't it? Our extreme right wing will be centre right in most countries, India doesn't even have a true blue right wing party if you think about it, but so many left wing parties...... Edited April 9, 2018 by Gollum Turning_track 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turning_track Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Quote For the 1st time in 70 years a relatively strong RW party comes to power and India is polarized LOL !!!! Exactly @Gollum & leave aside the foreign media, even the deluded ones in India are crying hoarse as if India is the next Nazi Germany. The ineptness in even the comparison is pathetic to say the least. Gollum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alam_dar Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 53 minutes ago, Gollum said: India is far far far more liberal and tolerant than any Muslim majority country on this planet. In my opinion, Muslims and Islam should not be used as any standard for any comparison. Quote We have had Muslim superstars, sportspeople, presidents, chief ministers, navy/air chiefs, chief justices, election commissioners, underworld bosses etc. In India a Hindu can convert to Islam (AR Rehman) and still be popular. A Muslim can marry and convert a Hindu lady (Azharuddin) and still go on to lead the side in 3 consecutive world cups. India is the only country in the world where there are no go areas for majority and where majority fears minority. In how many countries do you think this is possible? I think in every Western country and every other secular country it is possible. Quote This is not the 1st instance of religion and politics getting merged in India, has been going on for decades now, primarily because Indian concept of secularism is different from the western concept. Hindus are the most tolerant set of people on the planet, Hindus are the most non violent people, Hindus are the most open minded......... these are indisputable facts and hence India can never be equivalent of any Muslim majority country. I feel I don't know enough to judge it correctly. May be the original Hinduism teaching would have been so tolerant, but the neo-Hinduism which I see today in form of BJP and RSS, it is very much different than what you are claiming. They are not tolerant. They show this attitude not only against the Muslims, but also against the Christians and Seculars too. Actually, Dalits are still treated perhaps even worse than Muslims in some cases. I may be ill informed about India, but this is the picture which the world is getting due to the Beef ban, and the way RSS and Bajrang Dal are behaving and BJP support for them. Quote Modi is more liberal than every single Muslim leader on this planet, BJP is more tolerant than the most tolerant government in any Islamic country, even the most rabid Hindutva type is no worse than an average Muslim. May be, but then Muslims and Islam should not be a standard. Quote He is here primarily because of Congress ineptitude (plus extreme shift of political pendulum towards the left) and after a few years some opposition leader will come, Indian politics is a cycle, yin and yang...if Modi is the most polarizing figure in our history tells you something, doesn't it? Our extreme right wing will be centre right in most countries, India doesn't even have a true blue right wing party if you think about it, but so many left wing parties...... Every thing starts with little. Pakistan was not the same 30-40 years back. We even didn't get any "Blasphemy" laws at that time, just like India got no beef ban strict laws and punishments. Initially we also saw the lynching in name of blasphemy, and then a time came where religious Muslims got the absolute power and government machinery became helpless against them. Unfortunately, more or less, India is following the same path. Things started with blasphemy against cows, then small lynching incidents happened with beating. Then they developed in bigger lynching incidents with killings. And in whole process government forces loosing control against the fanatics. Next stage is when even the Judiciary loose it's control and fanatics will not be convicted by the courts (it seems already started happening in India where politics and religion has started playing in the minds of the Indian judges too). It may be at small scale today, but it will only increase with time, same as police and other government forces. I don't know when the yin and yang will happen, but at moment only polarization is progressing at very rapid pace. One can see in the Indian Media and discussion forums and from the comments of people on Articles in Indian newspapers how divided has become the Indian society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 @Alam_dar I am anti Hindutva, totally against groups like Bajrang Dal and Shri Ram Sena doing goondagiri in the name of cow/temple/moral policing. Hindus in India have anger (manifested on forums and news sites) because of perceived injustice and fear (demography change, hostile neighbors, insurgency etc). When political apparatus and system is so much in favour of left for decades it is inevitable that when the pendulum shifts the other way there will be some pent up anger/hatred waiting to explode. This phenomenon isn't limited to India, rise of Trump and Brexit are 2 shining examples in recent times, both have their origins in pent up frustration over excessive PCness and fear in the minds of public (immigration, border control, jobs, protectionism...). Compared to US and UK India is a 3rd world shithole with abysmal levels of education and political awareness. Our media is mostly based in Delhi and hence the focus on North India. We don't have Bajrang Dal type groups everywhere, in many places they have zero presence. in Tamil Nadu there is not a single BJP member in the assembly (compared to 2 Muslim League legislators), in the entire history of elections in the state no BJP member has ever been elected......we are too diverse a county and there will never be a homogeneous India even if ultra RW Hindu elements go rogue. Beef ban and lynchings in the name of cow again, limited to certain states. In Bengal, TN, Kerala, North East, Goa etc beef is widely consumed, even by Hindus and you won't hear about cow lynchings. I don't believe BJP will be present forever even in cow belt, next time a leftist party will come to power and the balance will shift in the other direction in the form of minority appeasement...yin and yang. You can't compare today's India with 1960s Pak because Pak was formed on the basis of religion. The left wing in that era's Pak would be a right centre in today's India....in India we have 2-3 RW parties, 30 odd LW parties and 10 ultra left wing parties. Balance in the political spectrum is firmly tilting towards left, so don't see us going down that route. Alam_dar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 7 hours ago, Alam_dar said: I am afraid it is already too late for the India too and the Indian society has already been polarized. Worst thing is when religion and politics are merged to get the power. This has already happened in India. Nevertheless, there is still a chance for India to get out of this problem, while sadly Pakistan has absolutely no chance to get out of this mess. i squarely blame radical islam for rising rightwing everywhere in the world. Everything else is reactionary. Alam_dar and Turning_track 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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