Pakistan's Hidden Shame

[Singh bling]

 

Can't Believe there are so many child rapists in Pakistan who openly comes on camera and tell that they raped boys

[Muloghonto]

its so prevalent in their country that they got a word for it - 'baccheybaazi'

 

[Ellipsism]

53 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

its so prevalent in their country that they got a word for it - 'baccheybaazi'

 

That’s more of a Afghan term, but ok. 

[Muloghonto]

28 minutes ago, Ellipsism said:

That’s more of a Afghan term, but ok. 

Pashtun...and i thought there are more Pashtun people in Pakistan than Afghanistan, no ?

[Ellipsism]

1 hour ago, Muloghonto said:

Pashtun...and i thought there are more Pashtun people in Pakistan than Afghanistan, no ?

It was introduced by the Tajiks and Uzbeks and the term itself is of Dari origin, a language not spoken by the Pashtun people. 

[Muloghonto]

12 minutes ago, Ellipsism said:

It was introduced by the Tajiks and Uzbeks and the term itself is of Dari origin, a language not spoken by the Pashtun people. 

Thanks for the info.

 

[Alam_dar]

Please note:

 

(1) Bacheybazi in Pakistan may be at peak in Pakhtoon areas, but for sure it is not "limited" to only Pakhtoon areas, but also wide spread in Punjab (especially south Punjab) and Sindh and other areas too. 

 

(2) What are the Reasons of Bacheybazi?

This is the most important question. 

And the most important reason is "Absence of INTERACTION with girls/women" due to the religious traditions. 

 

All these areas, where Bacheybazi is mostly spread, there traditionally young people don't get enough chances to interact with girls. 

I have been to tribal Pashtoon areas in Pakistan when I was in the 10th grade along with my class. There we were sometimes unable to see any woman for couple of days/weeks (then what to talk about interacting with them). 

 

If you don't see girls/women for couple of days, then indeed after that you feel some kind of frustration which makes you wild. I could not describe this feeling exactly, but for sure some of my classmates behaved strangely and I indeed saw the wish of "Hole" in them, irrespective to whom this hole belongs. For example, even a hole was made in a toy.

 

(3) Bacheybazi is also widespread in the religious Madaris. 

Molvies are widespread involved in raping the children who come for learning Quran. 

Again Molvies is the ones who have the least interaction with the girls/women and for sure this behaviour of Bacheybazi is caused due to this reason. 

 

(4) Even the Christian Priests in Europe are very much inclined in Bacheybazi. Again reason is unnatural way of living where women are absent. 

 

(5) Pakistanies (along with some other Muslim countries including Saudia, Turkey and Iran) are among top countries for watching porno films, or even for searching for incest pornos. (See Google Trends for last couple of years)

 

Most of the young Pakistani boys are unable to behave normally when they have to interact with girls. Religion and traditions have turned them into some kind of psychopath. 

 

 

[Singh bling]

5 hours ago, Alam_dar said:

What are the Reasons of Bacheybazi?

This is the most important question. 

And the most important reason is "Absence of INTERACTION with girls/women" due to the religious traditions. 

 

All these areas, where Bacheybazi is mostly spread, there traditionally young people don't get enough chances to interact with girls. 

I have been to tribal Pashtoon areas in Pakistan when I was in the 10th grade along with my class. There we were sometimes unable to see any woman for couple of days/weeks (then what to talk about interacting with them). 

 

If you don't see girls/women for couple of days, then indeed after that you feel some kind of frustration which makes you wild. I could not describe this feeling exactly, but for sure some of my classmates behaved strangely and I indeed saw the wish of "Hole" in them, irrespective to whom this hole belongs. For example, even a hole was made in a toy.

 

(3) Bacheybazi is also widespread in the religious Madaris. 

 

 

Is it because of lack of interaction or because lack of sex from women which they.In the documentry they were showing that 95% of drivers become bachebaaz.

 

Even in India Hindu and Budhist Monks live without interacting with women , but hardly cases of Bachebaazi was heard from them

[asterix]

Is it because of lack of interaction or because lack of sex from women which they.In the documentry they were showing that 95% of drivers become bachebaaz.

 

Even in India Hindu and Budhist Monks live without interacting with women , but hardly cases of Bachebaazi was heard from them

I’m now going to post a controversial view... not sure if it’s a fact or not...

 

One of my Muslim friend once told me that because of circumcision, the penis’s sensitive part rubs on clothes and induces arousal at time which otherwise won’t happen with foreskin.

 

This makes people without foreskin more aroused which results in them looking for options available to “douse the fire”...

 

Not sure if he was blagging or taking the Mickey out...

[Ellipsism]

38 minutes ago, asterix said:

I’m now going to post a controversial view... not sure if it’s a fact or not...

 

One of my Muslim friend once told me that because of circumcision, the penis’s sensitive part rubs on clothes and induces arousal at time which otherwise won’t happen with foreskin.

 

This makes people without foreskin more aroused which results in them looking for options available to “douse the fire”...

 

Not sure if he was blagging or taking the Mickey out...

Lol there’s something wrong with your friend...

[Alam_dar]

2 hours ago, asterix said:

I’m now going to post a controversial view... not sure if it’s a fact or not...

 

One of my Muslim friend once told me that because of circumcision, the penis’s sensitive part rubs on clothes and induces arousal at time which otherwise won’t happen with foreskin.

 

This makes people without foreskin more aroused which results in them looking for options available to “douse the fire”...

 

Not sure if he was blagging or taking the Mickey out...

May be this is also one of the reasons. Certainly sensitive part of penis rubs a lot with the clothes in the absence of foreskin. 

Nevertheless, then question arises why the European Christian Priests are involved in such type of activities while they are  also not circumcised. There main reason seems to be avoiding sex with the women. 

 

3 hours ago, Singh bling said:

Even in India Hindu and Budhist Monks live without interacting with women , but hardly cases of Bachebaazi was heard from them

I have not seen enough of Hindu/Buddhist monks in Pakistan, but I could imagine that it may be due to the following one or other factors:

 

(1) Hindu Monks get more interaction with the women as women are visiting them for prayers. 

In Pakistan, molvies and even normal people are totally cut off from interacting with the women. 

 

(2) These monks do Yoga and meditation which perhaps help them in this regards. 

 

(3) The vegetarian diet may be the reason. 

There seems to be a big debate if becoming vegan increases sexuality or decreases it. 

 

(Nevertheless, people of Karachi are although meat eaters, but this problem of Bacheybazi is not present there. Also it seems that this problem is also not present among the Muslim and Christian and Hindu meat eaters of India too). 

 

(4) Other diet habits may also be a reason. 

 

Indian vegan food seems to be heavily dependant on Puri and Halwa and Paratha and Samosa and Pakoras and Ladu and other India Sweets ... And they are oily foods and not very good for health. Also I don't think that very spicy food is good for health. 

 

Therefore, I feel that normal Indians are less in height and body than the normal Pashtoons and Punjabies of Pakistan. 

 

The people of Karachi are even eating meat, but still they are more similar to Indians in height and weight as compared to Pashtoons/Punjabies. 

 

If I am not mistaken, then there were debates where it was said that normal Indian men are not so much sexually active and penis size is small too. If it is true, then I could imagine that it could be due to the wrong eating habits, lack of exercise etc. More research is needed in order to find out the reasons for this. 

Edited April 16, 2018 by Alam_dar

[Alam_dar]

30 minutes ago, Ellipsism said:

Lol there’s something wrong with your friend...

As far as my limited knowledge is concerned, then I think that his friend is right about rubbing of the sensitive parts of the penis in case of circumcision. 

 

 

 

[asterix]

I have not seen enough of Hindu/Buddhist monks in Pakistan, but I could imagine that it may be due to the following one or other factors:
 
(1) Hindu Monks get more interaction with the women as women are visiting them for prayers. 
In Pakistan, molvies and even normal people are totally cut off from interacting with the women. 
 
(2) These monks do Yoga and meditation which perhaps help them in this regards. 
 
(3) The vegetarian diet may be the reason. 
There seems to be a big debate if becoming vegan increases sexuality or decreases it. 
 
(4) Other diet habits may also be a reason. 
 
Indian vegan food seems to be heavily dependant on Puri and Halwa and Paratha and Samosa and Pakoras and Ladu and other India Sweets ... And they are oily foods and not very good for health. Also I don't think that very spicy food is good for health. 
 
Therefore, I feel that normal Indians are less in height and body than the normal Pashtoons and Punjabies of Pakistan. 
 
The people of Karachi are even eating meat, but still they are more similar to Indians in height and weight as compared to Pashtoons/Punjabies. 
 
If I am not mistaken, then there were debates where it was said that normal Indian men are not so much sexually active and penis size is small too. If it is true, then I could imagine that it could be due to the wrong eating habits, lack of exercise etc. More research is needed in order to find out the reasons for this. 

Dietary habits could be one of the reasons. I mean there are popular restaurants serving Haleem and non veg dishes for break fast in Pakistan...

Similar restaurants could be in India but generally public take veg breakfast...

[Alam_dar]

1 hour ago, asterix said:

Dietary habits could be one of the reasons. I mean there are popular restaurants serving Haleem and non veg dishes for break fast in Pakistan...

Similar restaurants could be in India but generally public take veg breakfast...

You would not believe me that many Punjabies in Pakistan still don't know what Haleem or Nihari is (or even they don't know about biryani). It is only the last 10-15 years when they first introduced to Haleem and Nihari. 

And Pashtoons in Khaibar Pukhtoonkhawa know even less about Haleem/Nihari/Biryani. 

 

Haleem and Nihari and Biryani were limited only to Karachi where majority of Muhajirs are living (i.e. those who migrated from India). 

 

The Punjabi food is much healthier than the food of Karachi people. They are using more Naan Choolay (Chick-peas) as compared to Halwa poori in the breakfast. Also they use more of different kind of saags and sabzis and Lassi and roti. 

 

While Pashtoon food is certainly more healthier than the Punjabi food. 

[panther]

6 hours ago, Alam_dar said:

You would not believe me that many Punjabies in Pakistan still don't know what Haleem or Nihari is (or even they don't know about biryani). It is only the last 10-15 years when they first introduced to Haleem and Nihari. 

And Pashtoons in Khaibar Pukhtoonkhawa know even less about Haleem/Nihari/Biryani. 

 

Haleem and Nihari and Biryani were limited only to Karachi where majority of Muhajirs are living (i.e. those who migrated from India). 

 

The Punjabi food is much healthier than the food of Karachi people. They are using more Naan Choolay (Chick-peas) as compared to Halwa poori in the breakfast. Also they use more of different kind of saags and sabzis and Lassi and roti. 

 

While Pashtoon food is certainly more healthier than the Punjabi food. 

This is true I have never had Haleem or nihari, had biryani though many times, but pashtun in Karachi defiantly eat Haleem and nihari as it's so common there but yh in my village never seen biryani, Haleem or nihari cooked at weddings.

[Singh bling]

8 hours ago, Alam_dar said:

Pakistan, but I could imagine that it may be due to the following one or other factors:

 

(1) Hindu Monks get more interaction with the women as women are visiting them for prayers. 

In Pakistan, molvies and even normal people are totally cut off from interacting with the women. 

 

There are different type of Sadhu's in India.some totally cut off from women some has sadhvi's in Ashram

 

Also please note Sadhu's in India are several times caught and even punished for raping Sadhvi's , female devotess etc.

Biggest Sadhu's of India Asaram and Ram raheem are in Jail because of rape.But still so far Sadhu's molesting or raping young boys is unheard or quiet rare

8 hours ago, asterix said:

Therefore, I feel that normal Indians are less in height and body than the normal Pashtoons and Punjabies of Pakistan. 
 
The people of Karachi are even eating meat, but still they are more similar to Indians in height and weight as compared to Pashtoons/Punjabies. 
 

Indians in Northern states like Punjab , Haryana , West Uttar pradesh are as tall as Pakistani Punjabi pashtoons

There is someone who did some research on this

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/misc.fitness.weights/WSj6dIfE3fM

Don't know how true is this but according to this Jatt sikhs by far are tallest South Asians

Edited April 16, 2018 by Singh bling

[Muloghonto]

9 hours ago, Alam_dar said:

May be this is also one of the reasons. Certainly sensitive part of penis rubs a lot with the clothes in the absence of foreskin. 

Nevertheless, then question arises why the European Christian Priests are involved in such type of activities while they are  also not circumcised. There main reason seems to be avoiding sex with the women. 

 

Err, most christians - of every denomination- are circumcised. Especially clergymen.

 

[Alam_dar]

1 hour ago, panther said:

This is true I have never had Haleem or nihari, had biryani though many times, but pashtun in Karachi defiantly eat Haleem and nihari as it's so common there but yh in my village never seen biryani, Haleem or nihari cooked at weddings.

I believe younger generations of Pashtoons in Karachi are though still stronger and taller than muhajirs of Karachi, but not as strong/taller as Pashtoons in Khaibar Pukhtoonkhawa areas. 

After all, we are what we eat. 

 

There are Pashtoons who settled in India couple of hundered years ago. Their present generations are similar to Indian Muslims. 

 

1 hour ago, Singh bling said:

Indians in Northern states like Punjab , Haryana , West Uttar pradesh are as tall as Pakistani Punjabi pashtoons

There is someone who did some research on this

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/misc.fitness.weights/WSj6dIfE3fM

Don't know how true is this but according to this Jatt sikhs by far are tallest South Asians

I also noticed that Sikhs are very tall and strong and I always wondered why? 

 

Could you please shed some light if food of Sikhs is different than food of UP? Or is there difference of water in Indian Punjab and UP?

[Muloghonto]

1 minute ago, Alam_dar said:

I believe younger generations of Pashtoons in Karachi are though still stronger and taller than muhajirs of Karachi, but not as strong/taller as Pashtoons in Khaibar Pukhtoonkhawa areas. 

After all, we are what we eat. 

 

There are Pashtoons who settled in India couple of hundered years ago. Their present generations are similar to Indian Muslims. 

 

I also noticed that Sikhs are very tall and strong and I always wondered why? 

 

Could you please shed some light if food of Sikhs is different than food of UP? Or is there difference of water in Indian Punjab and UP?

This physiological change, is not done in a generation or two. Its done over centuries/millenias.

 

The reason why Punjabis, Pashtoons, etc. are taller than rest of the subcontinentals, is because they are, relatively speaking, 'new arrivals' from Central Asia and thus have far less farmed history. 

If you wish, i can post an article about correlation between long term farming and decrease in stature. Its the same reason Romans, Greeks, Chinese, Iraqis are shorter in stature than people like Russians, Germans, Iranians, Mongols : 
The former cultures started to farm a lot earlier than the latter ones. And before we had modern transportation/logistics system, farming societies were poorer in nutrition than hunter-gatherer societies, due to far less variety of foods farmed. 

 

[Alam_dar]

7 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

Err, most christians - of every denomination- are circumcised. Especially clergymen.

 

May be. 

But in may personal experience, Europe is very much free of Christian religious circumcision. Actually they discouraged it. 

 

Ok, I googled and found this:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_male_circumcision

 

Many countries with majorities of Christian adherents have low circumcision rates (as in Europe and South America), while both religious and non-religious circumcision is common in some predominantly Christian countries such as the United States,^[2] and the Philippines, Canada,^[3] and in North and West Africa and it is common in countries such as the Cameroon,^[3] Democratic Republic of the Congo,^[3] Ethiopia,^[3] Eritrea,^[3] Ghana,^[3] Liberia,^[3] Nigeria^[3] and Kenya,^[3] Male circumcision is also widely practiced among Christians from South Korea, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Palestine, Israel, and North Africa.^[1] Circumcision is nearly universal in the Christian countries of Oceania.^[4] While The Catholic Church has condemned religious circumcision for its members, and currently maintains a neutral position on the practice of non-religious circumcision,^[5] Coptic Christianity and Ethiopian Orthodoxy and Eritrean Orthodoxy still observe male circumcision and practice circumcision as a rite of passage.^[6][7][1]