BJP's vision for India

[Stradlater]

Inspired from the other thread.

What is it exactly? 

And please don't say 'To make Hinduism great again'.

[coffee_rules]

To create a Hindu Nation based on Hindu Dharmic ethos. This is not Hindu nationalistic view where Hindus are to be supreme and boss over others like Nazis. But, the core of Sanathana Dharma was to be respectful of all reliogions and be inclusive of all religions in the society , just what secularism was supposed to achieve. 

[coffee_rules]

12 minutes ago, BeardedAladdin said:

I'd say that's more the RSS vision than BJPs. 

 

They are two different entities.

 

RSS is a separate body, with a clearly defined ideology close to what you mentioned. BJP is just a political machine; there are many different opinions within the organization, and they don't care for ideology as much as they care about winning elections. 

Most "real" RWingers are voting BJP on that agenda. 

[asterix]

OROP, Demonetisation, GST, YOGA, Swaccha Bharat, Make In India, Stop FDI to non complying NGOs, Foreign Policy (equal respect to Middle East & Israel, just one example), take on the hegemony of China (while RaGa secretly meeting Chinese for help), Health Insurance, Roads, Electricity network, Bank Accounts for everybody, Digitisation, FDIs, Eliminating Terrorists and Naxals etc.

 

Uniform Civil Code, Article 370, Nikah-Halala, clean up the anti National Congress ecosystem are work in progress...

 

Hoping for the Gandhis & Vadras to face the law of their misdeeds is a hope...

 

There’s so much done and so much to do...

 

I might’ve missed many other achievements or focus areas...

 

If you keep aside your hate towards RSS/Hindutwa/Hindus, won’t you like to give atleast another term to Modi/BJP?

 

Or do you say enough is enough, I want the get rid of this Govt and want a Secular Govt under a Prime Minister Rahul Gandhi?

 

[zen]

Fair secularism and democratic righteousness can be achieved through the correct use of the concepts of Ram Rajya

 

Hindutva has a much deeper meaning once you don’t associate the religious bigots version of it and the libtards intrepretation of it 

 

Iirc, Ram Rajya was the term used by Mahatma Gandhi during Ind’s independence struggle too

 

Vision should be Ram Rajya 

Edited April 23, 2018 by zen

[surajmal]

Bide time, till the next generation of RSS takes over (also get to middle income GDP levels ASAP). Thats when the real **** starts. Current (or previous) generation have too much of the coward gene in them. No will to fight. Always looking for excuses to avoid confrontation. 

Edited April 23, 2018 by surajmal

[Garuda]

Consolidation of power and making inroads into states that they have no possibility of winning. Forced acceptance of undemocratic ideals. Destroying competetion forever. Screw the poor providing genesis to antisocail elements. Promote the decline of state parties and rise of natinal parties. Im just declaring the negative points because no one points to these and thinks the golden age has just began

[Garuda]

9 hours ago, BeardedAladdin said:

Long term

1. Ram janambhoomi - #MandirWahinBanayenge

2. Article 370 - #DoodhMaangogeTohKheerDenge

3. UCC - #NoMorePseudoSecularism

 

Short term

Congress-mukt bharat

 

You may not agree with them, but you have to admit, their message is easy to understand. 

 

In even simpler terms, I'd say BJP thinks of India as a nation state. Congress looks at it as more of a union, but that's just my own impression - we aren't hearing from their people in the other thread. 

Really? Do you know for sure that is where Ram was born. Do you also believe that Taj Mahal was Tejo Mahalaya. Do you know that maybe just maybe that this thing is a chance for them to start a religious war. BJP or RSS's actions meant thounsands of templles in Pakistan and UK were destroyed following this event by radical muslims.

 

Ill tell you waht Babur or whoever did convert hindu temples into mosques. That is the same ideology used by Hindutvadis to do the exact same thing with role reversal. The islamic religion is based on the chosen ones religion. and the right wing parties have been in contact with the chosen ones country in the middle east since independence.

[Garuda]

6 hours ago, zen said:

Fair secularism and democratic righteousness can be achieved through the correct use of the concepts of Ram Rajya

 

Hindutva has a much deeper meaning once you don’t associate the religious bigots version of it and the libtards intrepretation of it 

 

Iirc, Ram Rajya was the term used by Mahatma Gandhi during Ind’s independence struggle too

 

Vision should be Ram Rajya 

Hindutva is a political ideology. Just like Islam where politics and religion is inseperable. Visions of Ram Rajya strikes terror in the hearts of minorites and hindus who dont have a history of worshipping Ram. Whatever happened to Unity in Diversity. Ram burnig Ravan ceremony is a celebration only prevalent in the north.

[The Dark Horse]

More tax on the working class...cut slacks on the ruling class...Farmers..meh who are they?

[Garuda]

38 minutes ago, BeardedAladdin said:

The debate around Ram janambhoomi has officially ended, and everything you mentioned was discussed throughout the 90s.

 

Now we're in 2018, and the only thing we're waiting for is the date.

 

These are negative points? lol.

So your saying what the ruling party says has to happen. Atleast you speak the truth. That is what is been happening to India for time immemorial. So you do believe Ram was born in that place. How do you feel Ram Leela only being celebrated in the North.

 

46 minutes ago, BeardedAladdin said:

 

2 hours ago, Garuda said:

Consolidation of power and making inroads into states that they have no possibility of winning. Forced acceptance of undemocratic ideals. Destroying competetion forever. Screw the poor providing genesis to antisocail elements. Promote the decline of state parties and rise of natinal parties. Im just declaring the negative points because no one points to these and thinks the golden age has just began

These are negative points? lol.

You dont think these are negatives. You are a tare among wheat.

[Garuda]

40 minutes ago, BeardedAladdin said:

Bhai agle baar jab mai vaishno devi jaaunga toh mere saath chaliyo. Thar rent pe lenge, aadha raasta main chalaunga, aadha tu. Raaste mein ganne ka juice bhi piyenge.

What do you mean. Vaishno devi temple is in JK. you say its not safe traveling there. And how does BJP come into the picture.

[zen]

4 hours ago, Garuda said:

Hindutva is a political ideology. Just like Islam where politics and religion is inseperable. Visions of Ram Rajya strikes terror in the hearts of minorites and hindus who dont have a history of worshipping Ram. Whatever happened to Unity in Diversity. Ram burnig Ravan ceremony is a celebration only prevalent in the north.

Refer to para 2 of the post you quoted. Need for people to understand Hindutva more deeply rather than the version presented by religious bigots and interpreted by libtards

[Garuda]

12 minutes ago, zen said:

Refer to para 2 of the post you quoted. Need for people to understand Hindutva more deeply rather than the version presented by religious bigots and interpreted by libtards

Ok. How do you define Hindutva then. Its an ideology only thing thats different from Islam is the religion and political ideology is different so far.

[zen]

1 hour ago, Garuda said:

Ok. How do you define Hindutva then. Its an ideology only thing thats different from Islam is the religion and political ideology is different so far.

To me, Hindutva includes all religions originating in India (varulious -isms). These form the cultural and philosophical backbone of our region including concepts such as welcoming people of other religions 

 

Ram Rajya to me is a state of democratic righteousness, which allows fair secularism 

[Garuda]

17 minutes ago, zen said:

To me, Hindutva includes all religions originating in India (varulious -isms). These form the cultural and philosophical backbone of our region including concepts such as welcoming people of other religions 

 

Ram Rajya to me is a state of democratic righteousness, which allows fair secularism 

Bit far fetched pal. come back to reality.

[zen]

2 minutes ago, Garuda said:

Bit far fetched pal. come back to reality.

And that is?

[Garuda]

1 hour ago, zen said:

To me, Hindutva includes all religions originating in India (varulious -isms). These form the cultural and philosophical backbone of our region including concepts such as welcoming people of other religions 

 

Ram Rajya to me is a state of democratic righteousness, which allows fair secularism 

 

29 minutes ago, zen said:

And that is?

Because it wont work. And BJP knows it. That's why they have been slowly distancing itslelf from Hindutava/RSS. I had one decent Pakistani poster who had enough honesty to admit that muslims are obligated to follow Islamic law over a nation's law if both have disagreements. So anytime where there is a disagreement, there is a struggle that every normal muslim experiences. The extreme ones dont even think. This is similar to Christians but a bit different. So the Dharmic religions and the Abrahamic religions get along like water and oil. This is assuming Hindutva and RSS are supposedly have our best interests at heart. If what you say is wrong, it could be even worse.

[Garuda]

Also BJP was in power in 2017 when the Jallikattu protests happened. So I think that BJP standing for traditional values took a major hit that day.

[jusarrived]

if you look beyond the masala news fed to you and purely talking economics to list a few 

 

Fiscal prudence .

Increase Tax revenues .

Make India investment friendly .