Avesh Khan bowling close to 150 k in IPL 2018

[express bowling]

Andre Russel was smashing the bowlers with his usual aplomb.  Suddenly, a bouncer from the big Avesh Khan whizzes past his nose. The next ball, a quick yorker,  topples Russel's stumps. All the fast bowling fans from India are ecstatic.

 

Avesh Khan can be a gem for Indian cricket. He is a very international-type fast bowler ... very tall ( around 6'3" ),  hits the deck hard, bowls a heavy ball and gets steep bounce.

 

In IPL 2018, he has bowled lots of deliveries between the 144 k and 149 k mark.   This is so good to see.  Indian cricket needs a tall, bouncy express bowler and he could be the answer.

 

Avesh bowls a good line and length,  gets seam movement,  has a great bouncer, good yorker and gets deliveries to rear up from length rather regularly.  There seems to be jaffas and snorters almost every over.

 

He showed his wicket-taking ability by running through sides in the U19 World Cup.  In this IPL, he has 4 wickets from 2 matches so far.  After all ... this is the main point of bowling.

 

He is young ... just 21 ... and that is another plus.

 

He was called as one of the four net bowlers on the S.A. tour. This is a good sign and it means that the selectors and the Indian team management have him in their radar.

 

Avesh needs to be groomed specially by the BCCI and the selectors. He is a rare gem.

Edited April 28, 2018 by express bowling

[Khota]

BCCI should do whatever it takes to keep these guys injury free and preserve them.

[Garuda]

Ideally we should keep them injury free so that he keep his speed up. Everyone knows how quick Ishant, Munaf, Nehra and Zaheer was when they started out. Only Zaheer could make it to the end and that too bowling at reduced pace.

Option B is to have a bunch of players who could bowl over 150 and accurate and keep them in case somebody gets injured. I think we are moving in this direction. Either way we need to get 20 wickets outside Asia and that is the only way we are gonna win away from home.

[express bowling]

 

Everyone knows how quick Ishant, Munaf, Nehra and Zaheer was when they started out. Only Zaheer could make it to the end and that too bowling at reduced pace.

 

Yes .... seamers losing pace after 2 to 4 years was a serious problem we had in the 2000s decade. As you mentioned, Zaheer, Nehra and Munaf all lost pace.

 

Thankfully, this issue was identified and worked on in the 2010s decade.  We have had Umesh bowling at full pace for 6 years, Shami is bowling at full pace after 5 years and multiple injuries and Bhuvi had added pace after 4  years in international cricket. The strength and conditioning coaches are really good now right from U19 level, NCA to the national team. Mindsets have improved too among pacers and they want to bowl quick nowadays. Competition also plays a big part in quicks sustaining pace there days.

 

 

Option B is to have a bunch of players who could bowl over 150 and accurate and keep them in case somebody gets injured. I think we are moving in this direction.

Having a pool of quick pacers is a must .

 

 

Either way we need to get 20 wickets outside Asia and that is the only way we are gonna win away from home.

 

Edited April 28, 2018 by express bowling

[Lala]

Nothing special. Seems to be a another fast bolwer like umesh & shami. He will join national side as soon as he will leave. India still could'nt produce consistent world class fast bowlers like pakistan did. Still our bowling resources are way ahead. 

[Lannister]

 

Nothing special. Seems to be a another fast bolwer like umesh & shami. He will join national side as soon as he will leave. India still could'nt produce consistent world class fast bowlers like pakistan did. Still our bowling resources are way ahead. 

How many world class fast bowlers did Pakistan produce? 

[Lala]

 

How many world class fast bowlers did Pakistan produce? 

Fazal Mahmood, Sarfraz Nawaz, Imran Khan, Wasim, Waqar, Akhtar, Razzak, Gul, etc

 

Amir and Hasan Ali are our future of world class.

 

Ok now tell me How many in India? 

Edited May 1, 2018 by Lala

[Singh bling]

 

Fazal Mahmood, Sarfraz Nawaz, Imran Khan, Wasim, Waqar, Akhtar, Razzak, Gul, etc

 

Amir and Hasan Ali are our future of world class.

 

Ok now tell me How many in India? 

What is your definition of world class , what criteria ?

[Lala]

 

What is your definition of world class , what criteria ?

Criteria is if a bowler is a legend that fans accept where then they are called as world class. Not only pakistan there are world class bowlers in other countries as well. Example:McGrath, Lee, Donald, Walsh, Marshal, lillee, etc

[Lala]

Adding to that, fans never easily accept as world class, so bowlers need to show their consistent performance at a high. 

[Singh bling]

 

Criteria is if a bowler is a legend that fans accept where then they are called as world class. Not only pakistan there are world class bowlers in other countries as well. Example:McGrath, Lee, Donald, Walsh, Marshal, lillee, etc

And how Razzaq and Gul fits into that criteria

[Suhaan]

 

Fazal Mahmood, Sarfraz Nawaz, Imran Khan, Wasim, Waqar, Akhtar, Razzak, Gul, etc

 

Amir and Hasan Ali are our future of world class.

 

Ok now tell me How many in India? 

Razzak a world class bowler...lol

[kira]

 

Nothing special. Seems to be a another fast bolwer like umesh & shami. He will join national side as soon as he will leave. India still could'nt produce consistent world class fast bowlers like pakistan did. Still our bowling resources are way ahead. 

Teri jali na India has better and faster bowlers than pakistan, in fact we have some of the fastest bowlers in the world while phateecharstan has to be satisfied with trundler ali and phateechar amir 

Your phateechar nation can't even produce fast bowlers anymore since modern day cameras rendered ball tampering almost impossible 

[Ankit_sharma03]

 

Nothing special. Seems to be a another fast bolwer like umesh & shami. He will join national side as soon as he will leave. India still could'nt produce consistent world class fast bowlers like pakistan did. Still our bowling resources are way ahead. 

1 min ke liye maan bhi lu, the fact is they are not going to next level......kya faida

Where is mohd irfan?

Juniad , amir none have been same what they came in ?

 

Edited May 1, 2018 by Ankit_sharma03

[rkt.india]

 

Fazal Mahmood, Sarfraz Nawaz, Imran Khan, Wasim, Waqar, Akhtar, Razzak, Gul, etc

 

Amir and Hasan Ali are our future of world class.

 

Ok now tell me How many in India? 

Razzak! stop doing Mazzak  

[express bowling]

 

Nothing special. Seems to be a another fast bolwer like umesh & shami. He will join national side as soon as he will leave. India still could'nt produce consistent world class fast bowlers like pakistan did. Still our bowling resources are way ahead. 

 

It is true that Pakistan have produced better fast bowlers than India till 2010 or thereabouts. There is no question about it. 

 

It is also true that India have developed a strong fast bowling culture in the 2010s decade.  Young pacers all over India want to bowl 145 k or more, want to hit the deck hard, want to be fit and strong, want to hit the gym. And results are showing. We now have 14 or 15 pacers who can cross 145 k any day and another 7 who can cross 140 k on any day.  There are some good swing bowlers too.

 

More importantly, we now have 3 pacers who average less than 29 in test matches ... and 2 quicks who average less than 26 in ODIs.

 

The present and future looks really bright ... and I,  personally,  would choose a really good present and future over past glory.

 

 

[Lala]

 

Teri jali na India has better and faster bowlers than pakistan, in fact we have some of the fastest bowlers in the world while phateecharstan has to be satisfied with trundler ali and phateechar amir 

Who are your fastest, may be medium spinner bhuvi (even afridi bowls faster than him ), mindless hardick who cant even a bowl an over without conceding a boundry, Bumrah the no ball master  and Unadkat the indian starc wale 

 

Abeh trolling se pahele apnee team ko pahele dekhen  

[Lala]

 

1 min ke liye maan bhi lu, the fact is they are not going to next level......kya faida

Where is mohd irfan?

Juniad , amir none have been same what they came in ?

 

They were poor to show consistent performance so they are not world class 

[Lala]

 

Razzak! stop doing Mazzak  

269 wickets in ODIs and 100 wickets in Test. How many indian phast bowlers did that? 

[Rightarmfast]

 

Fazal Mahmood, Sarfraz Nawaz, Imran Khan, Wasim, Waqar, Akhtar, Razzak, Gul, etc

 

Amir and Hasan Ali are our future of world class.

 

Ok now tell me How many in India? 

Accepted! They were world class. I would give credit to Fazal Mahmood and count him as class because he was one of the pioneers for Pakistan in fast medium bowling. 

Sarfaraz was very controversial, razzak was an average bowler, gul was better than average.

 

Imran Khan was the game changer for Pakistan though. He mentored Wasim and Waqar. But after these 4, Pakistan hasnt been able to carry its legacy. On the other hand, while Indians still produce good to great batsmen, they have turned their weakness to their strength and we now have numerous bowlers who can be called classy. 

The gap has been reducing since 2000 and now India is just ahead. Going forward, it will be tough for Pakistan to match India's fast bowling resources. 

It is sad, to be honest. We want the subcontinent to produce exciting cricketers. Its good for the game and its good for the subcontinent. And don't get me wrong, I love Amir. however, the world doesnt rate Amir, just the way it doesnt rate Ishant Sharma. 

Hassan Ali has scope, but its too early to judge. Let's give him 2 years.

 

Btw, let's use this forum for constructive discussion instead of this whataboutery.