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The Indian Premier League always generates comments from both sides of the fence. There are people who love it and can’t wait for it to come around, and there are some, mostly the connoisseurs of the game who think T20 cricket is rubbish and hate it with passion. Among those who hate it are invariably people who feel that the huge money that the IPL brings to the players is a distraction and affects their performances. They feel that the players won’t care much for playing for their countries if they get a good contract in the IPL.

There is no doubt that the IPL has made many a player secure for life, and in some cases maybe for the next couple of his generations too. However, the player is smart enough to know that if he doesn’t perform up to expectations then his market would fall and he may get much less the next time around, and worse still could miss out on the League altogether.

The main argument between those who hate the IPL and those who like it is invariably about money. So those who are for the IPL are supposed to like it because of the money they are getting directly or through some business connected with the IPL and not for the excitement and the quality of cricket that they get to see. What the accusers do not realise or are feigning ignorance about is that the same argument about money can be turned against them — that because they are not benefiting financially from the IPL they hate it.

How money was sought to be the reason for the spat between Kevin Pietersen and David ‘Bumble’ Lloyd on social media recently is a typical example of the divided opinions that the IPL generates. Pietersen is a straightforward bloke who calls a spade a shovel; he is someone who won’t mince words. That is the reason he, like the IPL, is either liked or disliked, but not ignored.

 

The spat began when Pietersen observed on social media that those who accused him of preferring the IPL cash over playing for England and who had nothing nice to say about the League were now in India working for the IPL. Clearly, his shot was aimed at the English commentators who are working in India for the IPL. David Lloyd, who had been dismissive about the IPL in the past, using unkind names for some of the franchises, had come down as a commentator a couple of years earlier. He is here this year too. No wonder Pietersen was peeved and wanted to know why he had come down if he felt that the IPL was not a tournament worth watching.

Lloyd is a professional who will work if he gets a good offer and has the time to spare. He doesn’t have to like the tournament to work in it, even if he has been impolite about it. He may or may not change his mind about the tournament, but should he have been hired in the first place at all, especially since he had been so negative about it earlier? Aren’t there other commentators who would have gladly come down? Or is Lloyd’s commentary so good that he has to be fitted in somehow or the other? More importantly, now that Lloyd has been at the IPL for two editions has he changed his mind about it? That needs an answer.

 

What needs no answer, though, is whether we have a complex about getting recognition from foreigners or not. That answer is the most affirmative despite it being 70 years since India’s independence. The pride in our performance and our sportspersons is secondary to getting recognition from overseas. So a franchise can hire someone who has questioned the integrity of a person no less than the Indian skipper when we should have been telling him that unless he apologises for that, he won’t be considered for any assignment in India.

There are some who come to earn money in India and yet when they are sitting in the aircraft on way home after their assignment will raise a glass and abuse India. There are those who call India the rudest country in the world, and yet are happy to come and earn millions from the IPL.

Pietersen raised the question to David Lloyd that could have been due to some old skirmish between them, but shouldn’t Indians have done it? But then, how many of us have real pride in ourselves as Indians?

 

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What needs no answer, though, is whether we have a complex about getting recognition from foreigners or not. That answer is the most affirmative despite it being 70 years since India’s independence. The pride in our performance and our sportspersons is secondary to getting recognition from overseas. So a franchise can hire someone who has questioned the integrity of a person no less than the Indian skipper when we should have been telling him that unless he apologises for that, he won’t be considered for any assignment in India.

There are some who come to earn money in India and yet when they are sitting in the aircraft on way home after their assignment will raise a glass and abuse India. There are those who call India the rudest country in the world, and yet are happy to come and earn millions from the IPL.

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I am not sure i am following this. He is saying we should not hire someone just because he is white?  We don't have like 50 countries playing cricket. SA/NZ/Australia/England 4 teams are white teams out of the total 9. 

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Of course he would know about arse kissing because he was one of those guys who indulged in it :p:. Him and tracer bullet have been kissing several powerful asses and BCCI asses as of the last decade. Fans like other commentators better than his and manjus commentary. So his income is under threat and thats the reason he is acting bitter. We have suffered enough. The white worship is a thing I hate but its rich when Sunny talks on our behalf. Bring on some better Indian commentators to replace these guys.

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Grow up Gavaskar, the world is changing and today's generation don't have the time to care about you or your sorry issues. If I have to say, the Cricket will be a lot better place if we are to rid of old f@rts like you. Take that sook Bumble with you as well. 

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Didnt Ravi Shashtri ridicule England cricket Board during mid break show on star sports in 2011 test series? And that too by mentioning  something about IPL and ECB being jealous about it..Here we were gettig smashed 0-4 and this guy was blabbering about IPL..And this man is our current coach.

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White commentators tends to have better diction than indian commentators when it comes to english .Makes them sound more polished and professional,also i dont know if others noticed this but when white commentators are hanging around other white commentators  they tend to have a better sense of humour and share funny stories etc than when they are talking to indian commentators, the converse is also true ,irfan for eg is a lot more funnier and engaging in hindi commentary than in eng .

 

Yes people like bumble are biased towards eng ,i have seen him call engt20 league better than ipl lol, but I like him as a commentator .He has one of those classic excitable voices like bill lawry and is certainly better than any indian or foreign commentators.So for me he deserves his place in the commbox(not so sure about the likes of styris and deano) and surely everyone knows that you dont have to love someone to make money out of them .

 

PS -styris when going into a break puts on this toothy fake grin and stares at the camera,it's so *ing cringey ,someone should tell him to stop it.

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Not insulting whites won't become white worshipping. You cannot insult whites just for the sake of insulting. You have to look at individuals and how they behave and act accordingly. Brett Lee is a white. What wrong he did. He is mixing well with Indian culture. If you look at it Indian born Nasser Hussain threw worst jabes at Indians more than whites. Sunny made distasteful remarks about David Hookes death as well. Show your aggression where you need to show not everywhere. 

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4 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Not insulting whites won't become white worshipping. You cannot insult whites just for the sake of insulting. You have to look at individuals and how they behave and act accordingly. Brett Lee is a white. What wrong he did. He is mixing well with Indian culture. If you look at it Indian born Nasser Hussain threw worst jabes at Indians more than whites. Sunny made distasteful remarks about David Hookes death as well. Show your aggression where you need to show not everywhere. 

Thanks for reminding me about that, lowest of all lows imaginable. Gavaskar is like modern day nazi feminists, he needs an object of hate and goras are the target. 

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More arsekissing from tracer bullet to sunny g. the bouncer hit his forehead and went back 10 meters it seems :hysterical:

 

 

Some gin and tonic stories. In between he says Sunny wasnt afraid of the critics who would say that shastri is a bombay player and sunny's chamcha which would be the truth :laugh:

 

 

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5 hours ago, MultiB48 said:

They are more protective of their products ,leagues like english premier league, la liga etc dont allow football to grow in other parts of the world but we seem oblivious to it.

In what way do those leagues not all football to grow in other parts of the world?

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fully agree with sunny g in this instance

 

Lloyd has been always hyper critical of the IPL when it was in ITV4... as soon as his paymasters have the rights to the IPL its all so good.

 

Now I actually enjoy Lloyd as a commentator. He does bring colour to the commentary team. But there are others like Michael Vaughn who were always supportive of the IPL (though critical of certain aspects) who would have made a better choice.

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57 minutes ago, G_B_ said:

fully agree with sunny g in this instance

 

Lloyd has been always hyper critical of the IPL when it was in ITV4... as soon as his paymasters have the rights to the IPL its all so good.

 

Now I actually enjoy Lloyd as a commentator. He does bring colour to the commentary team. But there are others like Michael Vaughn who were always supportive of the IPL (though critical of certain aspects) who would have made a better choice.

Vaughan is also part of the commentary team. I heard him in few matches. 

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We seem to be all excited when we see  Fire in babylon when the black power took on the white man etc etc...while Imran Khan was mixing with the white socialites and trying hard to be one of them...Sunny G was the original brown gangster who gave them back and made them cry :hatsoff:

 

Yes little vulnerable in his later years to BCCI but still he is only catering to his own kind,but when it comes to sticking it to the whiteman...Sunny G been doing it since the 70's.....Gangsta :hail: 

 

 

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Gavaskar raises a very valid point here.

 

Any person who was blindly opposed to the IPL earlier and  went out of his way to criticize it ... later on wants to become a part of it in whatever capacity ...  needs to  be shown the mirror.

 

It is immaterial whether that person is white, brown or purple.

 

Gavaskar has many weaknesses himself and needs to be queried about them too.

 

But that does not mean that all the issues he raises are bad.

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fully agree with sunny g in this instance

 

Lloyd has been always hyper critical of the IPL when it was in ITV4... as soon as his paymasters have the rights to the IPL its all so good.

 

Now I actually enjoy Lloyd as a commentator. He does bring colour to the commentary team. But there are others like Michael Vaughn who were always supportive of the IPL (though critical of certain aspects) who would have made a better choice.

As far as I'm aware Lloyds only ever been critical of the television commercialisation of the IPL such as adverts taking place every single over and has actually always been pretty complimentary on the cricketing side of things? Seems fair enough to me?

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Gavaskar is living in the past.

The younger lot do not have a colonial mindset because they are from a different time.

 

Young Indian who are no names get to play while big international names get benched.He big heroes of ipl are mostly Indians.

 

We should feel proud that some international ex players are insecure about kohli playing in county. They have their reasons to oppose but it shows how much Indian cricket and beating  Indian team means to them.

 

Now if he has the guts to talk about some bcci arse licking,then we will call him tough nuts.

How about starting with some mumbai lobby arse licking??

 

 

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9 hours ago, express bowling said:

Gavaskar raises a very valid point here.

 

Any person who was blindly opposed to the IPL earlier and  went out of his way to criticize it ... later on wants to become a part of it in whatever capacity ...  needs to  be shown the mirror.

 

It is immaterial whether that person is white, brown or purple.

 

Gavaskar has many weaknesses himself and needs to be queried about them too.

 

But that does not mean that all the issues he raises are bad.

him joining IPL means he has already seen the mirror.

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On 5/7/2018 at 4:43 PM, G_B_ said:

fully agree with sunny g in this instance

 

Lloyd has been always hyper critical of the IPL when it was in ITV4... as soon as his paymasters have the rights to the IPL its all so good.

 

Now I actually enjoy Lloyd as a commentator. He does bring colour to the commentary team. But there are others like Michael Vaughn who were always supportive of the IPL (though critical of certain aspects) who would have made a better choice.

Vaughn is already commentating

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As for anti ipl people getting to have a commentary stint..well they seem to be good.A welcome break from sunny and manju's blatently biased commentary.It looks like territorial fight.ipl is Indian territory. Indian commentators have ruled and now the territory is being shared.

 

Is that hurting sunnyji?

Well,that is easy to remedy...just stop the bias and be bold enough to  call out what needs to be called out.

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, rkt.india said:

him joining IPL means he has already seen the mirror.

True lol He was not exactly a fan of IPL either. To be honest many were not. Holding is no white. He is still a critic of IPL. Soon i can expect him to join in the IPL.  They are both part of the same hypocrisy lol. Mud slinging one is like muslinging himself.

 

 

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42 minutes ago, beetle said:

Gavaskar is living in the past.

The younger lot do not have a colonial mindset because they are from a different time.

 

Young Indian who are no names get to play while big international names get benched.He big heroes of ipl are mostly Indians.

 

We should feel proud that some international ex players are insecure about kohli playing in county. They have their reasons to oppose but it shows how much Indian cricket and beating  Indian team means to them.

 

Now if he has the guts to talk about some bcci arse licking,then we will call him tough nuts.

How about starting with some mumbai lobby arse licking??

 

 

You have criticized me for using bad language. I'm showing the mirror to you. Aap ek bharatiya naari hein. Yeh wala shabdhen aapko shobha nahi badathi :giggle:

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Forget about Gavaskar and brown vs white thing. Question still remains to be answered. Guys like Bumble, Clarke, Nasser who loathed the IPL, why did they chose to come over?  Is it the money or change of heart or both?  Inquiring minds would like to know.

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1 minute ago, yoda said:

Forget about Gavasar and brown vs white thing. Question still remains to be answered. Guys like Bumble, Clarke, Nasser who loathed the IPL, why did they chose to come over?  Is it the money or change of heart or both?  Inquiring minds would like to know.

 

Exactly.

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6 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

I have.

 

Criticize foul language by all means ... but it is immaterial whether that person is a man or a woman.

You sir are a feminist. You get the Gloria Steinem award for being the most feminist man in the world :congrats:

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26 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

This is 2018.  

 

Stop having separate rules for women !

Any intelligent self respecting woman would love to have separate rules and privileges for herself .Who would want to be clubbed alongside hairy sweaty men let alone be dominated by them ,not even men.

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4 minutes ago, MultiB48 said:

Any intelligent self respecting woman would love to have separate rules and privileges for herself .Who would want to be clubbed alongside hairy sweaty men let alone be dominated by them ,not even men.

 

Let every individual choose what they want ...  as long as they are abiding by the law.

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1 hour ago, yoda said:

Forget about Gavaskar and brown vs white thing. Question still remains to be answered. Guys like Bumble, Clarke, Nasser who loathed the IPL, why did they chose to come over?  Is it the money or change of heart or both?  Inquiring minds would like to know.

exactly....people are not getting the point here....bumble criticized ipl many times earlier.

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1 hour ago, MultiB48 said:

sounds reasonable but aren't laws there to be broken .Slavery was legal once ,how many law giver and their commandments have come and gone.

 

Laws will evolve and improve as society progresses. That is the way to go.

 

The main thing in a progressive society is to have a situation which provides equal opportunities to all, irrespective of race or gender.  This would mean similar responsibilities too.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Weird Indian mindset. 

"These people must love everything about India to earn a living here"

 

No! Many parts of India and Indian culture are beyond sh!t and must be called out.

Everyone who has a skill or in the case of ex-cricketers, mass-appeal they have a right to earning a living.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Sachinism said:

Weird Indian mindset. 

"These people must love everything about India to earn a living here"

Exactly.

 

People have no problems going to western counties to earn a living but constantly criticize western culture . This is the same .

 

They may not like ipl but will come and make a living.

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Players like Kapil dev and Amarnath suffered because of your arsekissing Sunny G. Its because of this behavior, that you included the biggest arsekisser in world cricket to play in your XI - tracer bullet. This guy is supposed to be an allrounder. He is allround fail as I see it. Here is the stats the doctor ordered.

 

He played 80 tests for an average of 35. These were the days when we played 5 tests per year. ODI average is 29 with a SR of 61. Some tracer bullet batting that.

 

His test bowling average is in the 40s and SR 100+ :hysterical:. He played 80 tests remember and a majority of those in India. What a poor record and this dipshit was allowed to play 80 tests and 150 ODIs. Explain that Sunny G before you climb your high horse and fight the British Empire. What a self-promoting git.

 

Batting and fielding averages
  Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 6s Ct St
Tests Insights on test 80 121 14 3830 206 35.79     11 12 22 36 0
ODIs Insights on odi 150 128 21 3108 109 29.04 5089 61.07 4 18   40 0
First-class 245 356 56 13202 217 44.00     34 66   141 0
List A 278 250 45 6383 138* 31.13     6 37   84 0
Bowling averages
  Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10
Tests Insights on test 80 125 15751 6185 151 5/75 8/179 40.96 2.35 104.3 11 2 0
ODIs Insights on odi 150 136 6613 4650 129 5/15 5/15 36.04 4.21 51.2 2 1 0
First-class 245   42422 16744 509 9/101   32.89 2.36 83.3   18 3
List A 278   11966 8175 254 5/13 5/13 32.18 4.09 47.1 3 5

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