PSB_Zone Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 All the plotting and planning before the game, tactics, team selection & managing the individuals from different parts of the world demands high level of skill and shrewd thinking as captain in franchise cricket.. Virat kohli Rcb failing for so long is prime example of that as T-20s need proactive thinking ..Virat kohli is great batsmen but always been an avg captain.. When he plays for India , he has dhoni , rohit all along side him to help him out , so flaws of kohli as a captain gets hidden.. Ipl to be frank is a lot about captains... Khota, UrmiSinhaRay, velu and 3 others 1 1 4 Link to comment
Shunya Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 True in Virat's case for sure. Rest of the world I am not sure. He is lucky to be captaining Indian side with others around him. sscomp32 and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
kohli Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 In ipl ,he has ab, & other for help.in national team, all team is always settle,they changed only few player,but in ipl some team changed there most of player.u have always new team UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
kira Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 (edited) lol dhoni chamchas never fail to amaze me with their stupidity Edited May 7, 2018 by kira mancalledsting, Number, Mosher and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Problem with IPL is once you fall down, there's no time to reflect..and it's a string of losses before you blink. That's what is happening with Kohli. Kohli's captaincy sucked, no two ways about it though. UrmiSinhaRay and sscomp32 1 1 Link to comment
Turbanator Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 A pyjama league is more important than international cricket? saik and mancalledsting 2 Link to comment
Khota Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 IPL is a true professional league.fact. Kohli as a Captain is a dismal failure. fact. India should have other captains than Kohli. Fact. Three formats three captains. fact. Actually cricket teams need to have rotating captains like hockey. Fact. UrmiSinhaRay, velu, mancalledsting and 2 others 2 1 2 Link to comment
Zero_Unit Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Bro what kind of logic is this? The core players has been there for couple of years now. He is just a bad captain, period. You don't need to go fetch rohit's name or Dhoni's name to defend your point. beetle and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
Number Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Rohit Sharma is the greatest captain. maniac, UrmiSinhaRay and Forever Indian 1 1 1 Link to comment
maniac Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Number said: Rohit Sharma is the greatest captain. Mandatory upvote given :) Link to comment
Khota Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 They are all good captains. I am not sure that their captaincy affected the final outcome. IPL proves that there is nothing special about Kohli as a captain. Link to comment
maniac Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Kohli is a fantastic test captain on field....behind the scenes things like squad selection,grooming youngsters etc debatable but his train wreck changes and niggled method is more entertaining than “well of course,we are playing the same team mule method”....but just like so many mercurial players have doubts about his ability in grooming youngsters...he himself is young so will give him time. In Odis he is bad very very bad....this is coming from me one of Dhoni’s harshest critics on this forum but I personally think on field Dhoni is a way better odi captain and looks far more assured....Kohli seems absent half the time rather and appears only playing to the camera....we won’t know what Kohli is made of till Dhoni retires,I was really impressed when he led the team in a couple of series a few years back when Dhoni was rested but he seems over dependent and that itself is a red flag of his leadership abilities...also fielding at deep midwicket while a running joke is really something we have to be worried about. Team selections etc are obviously poor and that has been an ongoing problem. In T20s his methods are outdated...in internationals Dhoni who is the default LOI captain has been a decade too late and poor anyways but based on what we see in IPL,he doesn’t seem to think fast on his feet under pressure...stark contrast to Kohli the batsman. Overall pains to say that he is a mediocre captain...While his test captaincy on field is a refreshing change from the dark ages of Dhoni era, his LOI captaincy is piss poor period....just because there is dislike for Dhoni there is no need to automatically cheer lead for Kohli and at the same time just because he might be the 2nd favorite Indian cricketer in the last 25 years doesn’t make him a great leader...Yes Sachin was an average captain but in his case criticized more than he deserved Gollum, Forever Indian, UrmiSinhaRay and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 What a joke thread lol kira 1 Link to comment
Forever Indian Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 2 hours ago, King Tendulkar said: What a joke thread lol Yes, Kohli's captaincy is definitely a joke thread sscomp32 1 Link to comment
Forever Indian Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 3 hours ago, maniac said: Kohli is a fantastic test captain on field....behind the scenes things like squad selection,grooming youngsters etc debatable but his train wreck changes and niggled method is more entertaining than “well of course,we are playing the same team mule method”....but just like so many mercurial players have doubts about his ability in grooming youngsters...he himself is young so will give him time. In Odis he is bad very very bad....this is coming from me one of Dhoni’s harshest critics on this forum but I personally think on field Dhoni is a way better odi captain and looks far more assured....Kohli seems absent half the time rather and appears only playing to the camera....we won’t know what Kohli is made of till Dhoni retires,I was really impressed when he led the team in a couple of series a few years back when Dhoni was rested but he seems over dependent and that itself is a red flag of his leadership abilities...also fielding at deep midwicket while a running joke is really something we have to be worried about. Team selections etc are obviously poor and that has been an ongoing problem. In T20s his methods are outdated...in internationals Dhoni who is the default LOI captain has been a decade too late and poor anyways but based on what we see in IPL,he doesn’t seem to think fast on his feet under pressure...stark contrast to Kohli the batsman. Overall pains to say that he is a mediocre captain...While his test captaincy on field is a refreshing change from the dark ages of Dhoni era, his LOI captaincy is piss poor period....just because there is dislike for Dhoni there is no need to automatically cheer lead for Kohli and at the same time just because he might be the 2nd favorite Indian cricketer in the last 25 years doesn’t make him a great leader...Yes Sachin was an average captain but in his case criticized more than he deserved This. The craziest cricket fans on the planet deserve an upgrade in terms of Captaincy and not a downgrade. Dhoni in his last few years was a poor captain no doubt but Kohli seems even worse than the stagnated captain in LOIs. sscomp32 and Number 1 1 Link to comment
Sachinism Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 It can be, at the same time it's not. You still have access to a massive support team. During yesterdays match (DD v SRH) Sriram was being interviewed and he mentioned Ponting gave Shreyas the bowling order for the middle period, so gives Shreyas less to think about. So while it may seem the captain's got a lot to do. There is still that support team available to you, with regular breaks to update yourself on tactics Either way. Virat has been killing for India, you can hate all you want. Link to comment
Khota Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 (edited) The decision making has to be taken away from captain. It should all be done by the coach. Edited May 11, 2018 by Khota Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 It all comes down to motivation. I think with RCB he has fake motivation lol. His fake celebration, excitement after each wicket is funny to watch. Having said that he is not exactly the sharpest guy when it comes to team selection. He seeks counsel from Dhoni in ODI. In T20 Rohit looks better than him as a captain. Rohit tries to stay in the game more than Kohli. In Tests you can do things like clock work as you have a bit of time to correct your dumb calls. He is seriously passionate about win. I'll give him that. But often times his horrible team selection let him down. Link to comment
Lala Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 That is why I always rate dhoni's captancy skills over Kohli. Link to comment
Lala Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 (edited) Even test player like willamson showing better captaincy skills with minimum resources than Kohli at his first appearance as captain. Edited May 11, 2018 by Lala Link to comment
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