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Our talent at the ground level is amazing...they play fearless cricket to standout but once they get in to the international side they are made insecure and they start playing to save their place....serious problems with our team management...have been noticing this dangerous trend in recent times....this is happening mostly with batsmen and Keepers....the fast bowlers/spinners are doing ok

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Our talent at the ground level is amazing...they play fearless cricket to standout but once they get in to the international side they are made insecure and they start playing to save their place....serious problems with our team management...have been noticing this dangerous trend in recent times....this is happening mostly with batsmen and Keepers....the fast bowlers/spinners are doing ok

Basically India have an abundance of batsmen who are dying to get into the team.
Also the team seniors have their usual set of ageing favourites who are obviously gonna preferred over newbies.
Kohli is a conservative captain and doesn't seem to experiment and back newbies much.

Also , there are some players whom the selectors have pin pointed from the beginning to take them into the national team.
No matter whatever they do in the field, they are gonna pushed and pushed till they actually establish themselves.
They are given umpteen amounts of chances to prove-and some of the golden performances become a key to retain place in the team despite inconsistency
Rohit Sharma is a huge example of this phenomena
People were so crazy about his "talent" that he was pushed again and again despite basically being inconsistent as hell.
He infact doesn't deserve to play even Domestic cricket but is a regular in the National Team.
Another one is Hardik Pandya.
Is a **** mediocre bowler and batsman but keeps getting chances because he was praised by Sachin "Bhagwan" Tendulkar as an Indian prospect .
Now Rishabh Pant is getting hyped and might eventually find a strong backer. But unfortunately he is a wicketkeeper and is in direct competition with Dhoni.
And in his absence , Dhoni prefers to hand the gloves to oldies like Riddhiman Saha/Dinesh Karthik.
No way Pant is getting a chance before Karthik/Saha/Dhoni is retiring.
And his rival Ishan Kishan has already joined the Bambis so I think eventually he might be called as Dhoni's replacement.
Or there might be some other kid with even more powerful backing and stats as Wicketkeeper so he might thrash Pant to that Post.

Among this U19 stars , it will be Prithvi Shaw who is gonna make to the National Team.
Dekh lena, I never go wrong with my predictions.
Shubman might have his chance , but he is definitely not marked the way Prithvi is-though he is probably the better batsman.
Shaw has been marked by the Bombay Brigade as the "Future Sachin" LOL.
He has been pointed and marked even before he made his First Class Debut.
I get Abhishek was first tracked to U19 owing to his stats and directly captained the youth team to victory in Asia Cup.
But our selectors are from Saturn LMAO.
Prithvi and even Gill has way more creds in the Indian cricketing circles right now.
Name recognition>talent in Indian cricket now.
Abhishek lacks the clout that he had even 1 yr ago.
And about power hitting, we already have Pant, KL rahul and even some dudes like Sanju Samson and Ishan Kishan waiting in the aisle.
Plus similarly talented kids will come year after year who might be even better than Sharma.
Plus lots of old uncles are also waiting in the line to get into the team.
Now , who will excel is a matter of debate.
Don't want to get into such golmele stuff right now though.
But Sharma likely has a huge way before he can even step into the Indian Cricket team.
There is Washington Sundar who is nearly the same age , equally talented and is more trusted by the selectors.
Plus, Indian Team doesn't have an empty space or a brave captain to experiment with "talented players" like Dhoni or Rohit's time had.
For one place in Indian Cricket team , there are atleast 10 equally talented and hardworking players are fighting for it
Plus DD is a neglected team anyways and Sharma's management team Medallin have no clout in the Indian Cricket Arena.
Cricket is about 80% management and 20% efficiency nowadays anyways.
Even Mayank Markande has a better chance to get into the Indian Team over Sharma.
Sharma has to slog it out really hard in the Domestic arena and bring up really really extraordinary stats to make selectors believe in his talent.
Again, it doesn't help Punjab is an overlooked cricketing state nowadays despite them having very good cricket infrastructure.
And Gill already has a better public profile than Sharma.
Being marketable is also a gradually important part of becoming a cricketer.
People like Jaddu/Pandya stay in the team for eons without any liability because they are marketable.
Anyways , I rest my case.
These are my opinions and I don't wish to hurt the prospects/hopes of a kid who is a year younger than me.
I wish him best of luck



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5 minutes ago, UrmiSinhaRay said:


 


Basically India have an abundance of batsmen who are dying to get into the team.
Also the team seniors have their usual set of ageing favourites who are obviously gonna preferred over newbies.
Kohli is a conservative captain and doesn't seem to experiment and back newbies much.

Also , there are some players whom the selectors have pin pointed from the beginning to take them into the national team.
No matter whatever they do in the field, they are gonna pushed and pushed till they actually establish themselves.
They are given umpteen amounts of chances to prove-and some of the golden performances become a key to retain place in the team despite inconsistency
Rohit Sharma is a huge example of this phenomena
People were so crazy about his "talent" that he was pushed again and again despite basically being inconsistent as hell.
He infact doesn't deserve to play even Domestic cricket but is a regular in the National Team.
Another one is Hardik Pandya.
Is a **** mediocre bowler and batsman but keeps getting chances because he was praised by Sachin "Bhagwan" Tendulkar as an Indian prospect .emoji23.png
Now Rishabh Pant is getting hyped and might eventually find a strong backer. But unfortunately he is a wicketkeeper and is in direct competition with Dhoni.
And in his absence , Dhoni prefers to hand the gloves to oldies like Riddhiman Saha/Dinesh Karthik.
No way Pant is getting a chance before Karthik/Saha/Dhoni is retiring.
And his rival Ishan Kishan has already joined the Bambis so I think eventually he might be called as Dhoni's replacement.
Or there might be some other kid with even more powerful backing and stats as Wicketkeeper so he might thrash Pant to that Post.

Among this U19 stars , it will be Prithvi Shaw who is gonna make to the National Team.
Dekh lena, I never go wrong with my predictions.
Shubman might have his chance , but he is definitely not marked the way Prithvi is-though he is probably the better batsman.
Shaw has been marked by the Bombay Brigade as the "Future Sachin" LOL.
He has been pointed and marked even before he made his First Class Debut.emoji23.pngemoji23.png
I get Abhishek was first tracked to U19 owing to his stats and directly captained the youth team to victory in Asia Cup.
But our selectors are from Saturn LMAO.
Prithvi and even Gill has way more creds in the Indian cricketing circles right now.
Name recognition>talent in Indian cricket now.
Abhishek lacks the clout that he had even 1 yr ago.
And about power hitting, we already have Pant, KL rahul and even some dudes like Sanju Samson and Ishan Kishan waiting in the aisle.
Plus similarly talented kids will come year after year who might be even better than Sharma.
Plus lots of old uncles are also waiting in the line to get into the team.
Now , who will excel is a matter of debate.
Don't want to get into such golmele stuff right now though.
But Sharma likely has a huge way before he can even step into the Indian Cricket team.
There is Washington Sundar who is nearly the same age , equally talented and is more trusted by the selectors.
Plus, Indian Team doesn't have an empty space or a brave captain to experiment with "talented players" like Dhoni or Rohit's time had.
For one place in Indian Cricket team , there are atleast 10 equally talented and hardworking players are fighting for it
Plus DD is a neglected team anyways and Sharma's management team Medallin have no clout in the Indian Cricket Arena.
Cricket is about 80% management and 20% efficiency nowadays anyways.
Even Mayank Markande has a better chance to get into the Indian Team over Sharma.
Sharma has to slog it out really hard in the Domestic arena and bring up really really extraordinary stats to make selectors believe in his talent.
Again, it doesn't help Punjab is an overlooked cricketing state nowadays despite them having very good cricket infrastructure.
And Gill already has a better public profile than Sharma.
Being marketable is also a gradually important part of becoming a cricketer.
People like Jaddu/Pandya stay in the team for eons without any liability because they are marketable.
Anyways , I rest my case.
These are my opinions and I don't wish to hurt the prospects/hopes of a kid who is a year younger than me.
I wish him best of luck



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Didn’t agree with all but interesting read 

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Didn’t agree with all but interesting read 

Yeah thanks.
Please write what you find wrong with my post.
I am need of constructive criticisms of my posts
I am not a frequent viewer of cricket but have acquitances in the marketing and management line so this is my view.
Also follow the news and selection trends


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Yeah thanks.
Please write what you find wrong with my post.emoji3.png
I am need of constructive criticisms of my posts emoji3.png
I am not a frequent viewer of cricket but have acquitances in the marketing and management line so this is my view.
Also follow the news and selection trends


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Just drink a bottle of Wine . No mood to analyse 

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Khilji == Dhoni
Kafur == Jaddu

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Jaddu's time is up now.
He is not playing in the England tour too.
I must say there is a want for Spin Bowling all rounder in the team,but right now it seems the selectors trust Washington Sundar more.
Abhishek needs to be consistent in the next season or more importantly, be in close scrutiny of Dhoni/Kohli.
WS played with RPS last year.
Pant and Gill has media backing(marked by selectors)
Prithvi and Shreyas has Mumbai lobby +Sajdeh for the latter.

That's why I said he needs to join Rhiti/Bunty.
That will compel the who's who of BCCI to take a look at him.

Dude , I am confident Abhishek's knock would have made 1000 times more noise if he wore the MI jersey.
Can't deny Nita Ambani's PR.
Hardik ko Indian Team ke permanent member bana diya.



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6 hours ago, UrmiSinhaRay said:


 

 


Jaddu's time is up now.
He is not playing in the England tour too.
I must say there is a want for Spin Bowling all rounder in the team,but right now it seems the selectors trust Washington Sundar more.
Abhishek needs to be consistent in the next season or more importantly, be in close scrutiny of Dhoni/Kohli.
WS played with RPS last year.
Pant and Gill has media backing(marked by selectors)
Prithvi and Shreyas has Mumbai lobby +Sajdeh for the latter.

That's why I said he needs to join Rhiti/Bunty.
That will compel the who's who of BCCI to take a look at him.

Dude , I am confident Abhishek's knock would have made 1000 times more noise if he wore the MI jersey.
Can't deny Nita Ambani's PR.
Hardik ko Indian Team ke permanent member bana diya.emoji16.png



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Hardik Pandya was a purple cap holder. Before Pandya, we had likes of RDhawan and Binny as pace bowling all-rounder. Pandya is a special talent in that respect and he has the backing of both Dhoni and Kohli and hence getting numerous chances. Now he hasn't done anything  outstanding but he hasn't been very terrible either. If you think MI connection is the reason for his selection or opportunities in Indian then why Krunal Pandya who has been more better than his brother for years now haven't made into the Indian team? Why Nitish Rana who seriously impressed playing for MI isn't even in top considerations for selector's?

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Hardik Pandya was a purple cap holder. Before Pandya, we had likes of RDhawan and Binny as pace bowling all-rounder. Pandya is a special talent in that respect and he has the backing of both Dhoni and Kohli and hence getting numerous chances. Now he hasn't done anything  outstanding but he hasn't been very terrible either. If you think MI connection is the reason for his selection or opportunities in Indian then why Krunal Pandya who has been more better than his brother for years now haven't made into the Indian team? Why Nitish Rana who seriously impressed playing for MI isn't even in top considerations for selector's?


Dude , there is no reason to get riled up for me alleging an MI bias in IPL and in the minds of Desi selectors.
Hardik Pandya is talented yeah and I do think him being a pace all rounder is the reason he got super fast tracked into the India Team.

But give it a thought .
Would Jasprit Bumrah and Hardik Pandya would have it the same easy way to Indian Team, or get the same amount of PR if they were part of some other team?
Not likely.
For example, if Hardik pulled off that same victory with a sixer as a member of DD rather than MI, Would Sachin Bhagwan praise him to the sky as an Indian prospect?
I don't think so.
He is affliated with MI and he has rarely gone out of his way to endorse players who are are from other IPL teams.

MI is a team which has a humongous fanbase just because it is Sachin's team.
People generally take more notice of this team's performers because of the same reason.
Nita Ambani also tries to earn credit by pushing any good player from her team in the media.
No way Mayank Markande would have gotten the publicity he got if would have been a part of any other team

A lot of other equations other from performance goes into senior team selection.
Ad agencies , sponsors ,captain's comfort.....everything factors in the selection of a player.
Especially in India , marketability of a player matters very much since Indians actually don't like much cricket unlike what people thinks.
Sports in this country is linked more to nationalism and more than cricket , it is the popular players who bring viewership and subsequently money to the team.

Like right now , Dinesh Karthik is in the form of his life.
His 8 ball 29 has given a fresh lease to his cricket career and he might eventually end up being a regular for a while.

Public sympathy and media image is playing a bigger role in Indian Cricket than ever before.
Also It is pretty well known that Indian cricket always had some form of lobbying in the selection committee.
I would rather say that the abolition of zonal committee actually allowed more control over the selectors by Media and this sports management firms like Rhiti and Bunty.

We have all noticed the selective PR prevalent in Indian Sports journalism.
Lot of players play good, but it is only some selected players who get noticed in media and eventually picked up in the Indian Team.

It is all about marketability and being suited to stakeholders' agenda.
Rishabh Pant is blockbuster hit amongst the cricket fans in India , but Dhoni sees him as a threat.
Karthik might be going through a purple patch right now , but he is not a threat to Dhoni.
Never was , never will.
Pant's reputation as Dhoni's successor is gonna hurt him badly in future.

Nitish Rana and Krunal Pandya might be good MI Players but they don't fulfill the requirements of the team or the stakeholders' for that matter.
Ofcourse being in MI has given them more PR than they could have ever imagined in their lifetime LOL.

Now , if Sajdeh realises Sharma's potential as a future face of Indian Cricket (next Kohli lol) then he might gradually come up the ranks
And he might, given that Indians have a love for powerhitting batsmen like him.
But right now the line in front of him is long.
2-3 seasons ke baad situation aur clear hoga.
DD is not the best place to get under the nose of selectors and be fast tracked.




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I wanted Krunal Pandya to be in the mix of things in ODIs and T20s but if this guy keeps rocking he will thousand times better choice than KPandya since Pandya is somewhere between a hack and proper batsman while Abhishek seems a proper batsman with clean striking.

Our selectors will choose KPandya, knowing their aukaats.
England is an Agnipariksha for both Sundar and KPandya LOL.
And Sundar seems to be backed by selectors atleast.
Let's see what does he do in the Eng Tour.

Sharma will take 2-3 more years to be considered for the national team as far as things are looking right now.
Atleast not before next IPL.


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14 minutes ago, UrmiSinhaRay said:


 

 


Dude , there is no reason to get riled up for me alleging an MI bias in IPL and in the minds of Desi selectors.
Hardik Pandya is talented yeah and I do think him being a pace all rounder is the reason he got super fast tracked into the India Team.

But give it a thought .
Would Jasprit Bumrah and Hardik Pandya would have it the same easy way to Indian Team, or get the same amount of PR if they were part of some other team?
Not likely.
For example, if Hardik pulled off that same victory with a sixer as a member of DD rather than MI, Would Sachin Bhagwan praise him to the sky as an Indian prospect?
I don't think so.
He is affliated with MI and he has rarely gone out of his way to endorse players who are are from other IPL teams.

MI is a team which has a humongous fanbase just because it is Sachin's team.
People generally take more notice of this team's performers because of the same reason.
Nita Ambani also tries to earn credit by pushing any good player from her team in the media.
No way Mayank Markande would have gotten the publicity he got if would have been a part of any other team

A lot of other equations other from performance goes into senior team selection.
Ad agencies , sponsors ,captain's comfort.....everything factors in the selection of a player.
Especially in India , marketability of a player matters very much since Indians actually don't like much cricket unlike what people thinks.
Sports in this country is linked more to nationalism and more than cricket , it is the popular players who bring viewership and subsequently money to the team.

Like right now , Dinesh Karthik is in the form of his life.
His 8 ball 29 has given a fresh lease to his cricket career and he might eventually end up being a regular for a while.

Public sympathy and media image is playing a bigger role in Indian Cricket than ever before.
Also It is pretty well known that Indian cricket always had some form of lobbying in the selection committee.
I would rather say that the abolition of zonal committee actually allowed more control over the selectors by Media and this sports management firms like Rhiti and Bunty.

We have all noticed the selective PR prevalent in Indian Sports journalism.
Lot of players play good, but it is only some selected players who get noticed in media and eventually picked up in the Indian Team.

It is all about marketability and being suited to stakeholders' agenda.
Rishabh Pant is blockbuster hit amongst the cricket fans in India , but Dhoni sees him as a threat.
Karthik might be going through a purple patch right now , but he is not a threat to Dhoni.
Never was , never will.
Pant's reputation as Dhoni's successor is gonna hurt him badly in future.

Nitish Rana and Krunal Pandya might be good MI Players but they don't fulfill the requirements of the team or the stakeholders' for that matter.
Ofcourse being in MI has given them more PR than they could have ever imagined in their lifetime LOL.

Now , if Sajdeh realises Sharma's potential as a future face of Indian Cricket (next Kohli lol) then he might gradually come up the ranks
And he might, given that Indians have a love for powerhitting batsmen like him.
But right now the line in front of him is long.
2-3 seasons ke baad situation aur clear hoga.
DD is not the best place to get under the nose of selectors and be fast tracked.




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Short posts, please. 

What criteria do KP or Nitish Rana dont fulfill? 

MI talent scout is one of the best. Bumrah was good even in domestics. He attributed his consistency in  accuracte yorkers to Malinga and Mumbai franchise. 

You say no way Bumrah, Hardik, krunal, Nitish get publicity if not a part of MI franchise. Well, RR spend 12 crore on Unadkat and few on Chawal as well.You see their choice of talent is itself bad. I put it this way : MI and DD (recent years only) have been exceptional in scouting for talent and backing them. 

 

 

 

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Our selectors will choose KPandya, knowing their aukaats.
England is an Agnipariksha for both Sundar and KPandya LOL.
And Sundar seems to be backed by selectors atleast.
Let's see what does he do in the Eng Tour.

Sharma will take 2-3 more years to be considered for the national team as far as things are looking right now.
Atleast not before next IPL.


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Selector's don't rate KP much.

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3 hours ago, UrmiSinhaRay said:


 


Our selectors will choose KPandya, knowing their aukaats.
England is an Agnipariksha for both Sundar and KPandya LOL.
And Sundar seems to be backed by selectors atleast.
Let's see what does he do in the Eng Tour.

Sharma will take 2-3 more years to be considered for the national team as far as things are looking right now.
Atleast not before next IPL.


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Bumrah did not make it to the Indian team because of Mumbai Indians. 

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14 hours ago, UrmiSinhaRay said:

Honestly I feel ashamed of myself.
I am older than Shubman, Abhishek , Prithvi , Nagarkoti and they are earning crores while I am broke.

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Think about us (those in the 20s) then !! And also some posters who are in there 70s :cantstop:

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