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How good a skipper MS Dhoni is?

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Before the start of this IPL, everyone including me thought that CSK will not be able to repeat its magic of yesteryears. An old captain, retired/semi retired players, no home ground...everything was against them.

 

But boy, wasnt I wrong? MSD led CSK is not only winning games but absolutely mauling superstar teams led by present international captains like Kohli, Kane, Rohit etc. Each and every players who looked pedestal for other teams ..suddenly performing brilliantly in CSK. Watson was a total failure for RCB last year and suddenly he is trump card for Dhoni. Rayudu who was a middle order grinder for MI...is a MVP for CSK. Even youngsters like Asif and Chahar is performing.

 

No real superstars, ageing or retired players and yet CSK is beating each and every team consists of many international stars??

 

This begs the question - How good a captain MS Dhoni really is?

 

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Very good. He is as good as it is out there in for limited overs version. 

 

Obituaries were written after the auction and no expert were ready to give them a chance. Lot of credit should be given to him and management who believed in their players to deliver and inspired this turnaround at the age when they should be easily beaten by all younger international star players/captains/coaches.

 

Another important point to note is their whole strategy in auction was to prepare a team to play at chepauk on dry spinning pitches. Even after loosing the pitch advantage, crowd advantage and the need to adjust their primary strategy, they are still becoming the Gold standard of IPL like their heydays.

Absolute Legend. :hatsoff: 

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7 minutes ago, Scar said:

Have to say, before IPL wasn't giving CSK much chance but boy oh boy! Milking the best out of each player is also an art that many other captain lacks. 

 

Look at kohli for instance, he can make a lactating cricketer go dud under his reign. 

Kohli is clearly someone who can lift himself up immensely with his work ethics. But I feel he puts lot of pressure on others and it has not worked out well.

As per their record itself, he should be the most overrated captain of IPL. People got carried away with his batting prowess and expectations has always been underachieved.

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18 minutes ago, Shunya said:

Kohli is clearly someone who can lift himself up immensely with his work ethics. But I feel he puts lot of pressure on others and it has not worked out well.

As per their record itself, he should be the most overrated captain of IPL. People got carried away with his batting prowess and expectations has always been underachieved.

To be fair to kohli, we desperately needed a hungry captain like him for test. I personally think kohli is miles better than Dhoni as far as test are concerned. But it's LOIs that we are lacking a calm ajd composed personality. ODI and T20s are self moving game, you just have to steady on unlike tests. This is where kohli lacks, to win the crucial moments. 

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6 minutes ago, adi B said:

Younis Khan won the wt20,smashed captains like Smith,sanga,vettori in the process !! Wow 

LOL...what a comparison. YK had players like Amir, Razzaq, Afridi, Ajmal etc in his team and all were in prime form. Dhoni is beating teams consisting of top international stars with an aged/expired team and that too without the home advantage. Credit where due maybe? :hmmm:

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9 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

LOL...what a comparison. YK had players like Amir, Razzaq, Afridi, Ajmal etc in his team and all were in prime form. Dhoni is beating teams consisting of top international stars with an aged/expired team and that too without the home advantage. Credit where due maybe? :hmmm:

Yes but I don't take ipl seriously at all ,I didn't even give rohit credit for winning 3 ipls. Captaincy is overrated in t20s!

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Fantastic example of his captaincy brain yesterday. He played chahar and bowled him 4 upfront knowing he is not fully fit and may not field for 20 overs and bowl at death. After that he was sent off the field and a substitute fielded in place of him. And while batting he is a tailender so wasn't needed even there. He stole 4 overs from SRH and covered a potentially weak Fielder. :cheer:

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7 hours ago, Trichromatic said:

Captaincy is important in T20. One over to wrong bowler and you are out of the match.

That one wrong over is the reason for the creation of "all rounder" hardik Pandya. :giggle: MSD bowled negi in 2014/15 and pandya hit 20+ and won them the match. 

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the worst captain ever, glad that he has been kicked out of the captaincy, only captain to lose a series against bangladesh, only captain who blames his bowlers and  humiliates them in live pc, inept captain  who lost a series vs South africa at home(odi) and england (test), only captain who conceded 438 in an innings, only captain (selfish and extremely dumb) who prefer trundlers to quality genuine pacers to hide is own incompetency in WK, only captain who pooped in his pants while captaining his first worst team rps 2016 same team with which  smith reached a final  following year, only captain who announced retirement in bathroom itself in Australia on the thought of facing fiery Mitchell Johnson....

And the most important thing he destroyed our test cricket(overseas)IMG_20180113_153724.JPG.2b52d5406ffea4969e706c382a3d9c24.JPGIMG_20180113_153724.JPG.19f222027a66526514ab991541765bf1.JPG  took us in dark age 

There are so many things of this horrifying inept captain which has no end, no time otherwise would have filled this thread with  horrific achievements of this village idiot.

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5 hours ago, sscomp32 said:

And bowlers took it well and performed fantastically for 10 overs. :) 

Exactly, look at the death overs. They gave 49-3 in last 30 balls. Thats excellent against all class international players of no.1 ranked team going bonkers.

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4 hours ago, kira said:

lol all this chest thumping based on pyjama league :hysterical: I would love to see where all these chamchas will run off to when the international cricket is back:-D

So in the same token we should be taking performance of Pant also with a pinch of salt because he looked abysmal in international cricket and was struggling against mighty Bangla? Or is this parameter only for Dhoni? Decide one thing brother :cantstop:

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14 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

So in the same token we should be taking performance of Pant also with a pinch of salt because he looked abysmal in international cricket and was struggling against mighty Bangla? Or is this parameter only for Dhoni? Decide one thing brother :cantstop:

2 matches vs entire ipl

you know who else struggled against mighty bangla on debut ? i will let you take a guess!

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14 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

So in the same token we should be taking performance of Pant also with a pinch of salt because he looked abysmal in international cricket and was struggling against mighty Bangla? Or is this parameter only for Dhoni? Decide one thing brother :cantstop:

Again you misconstrue my point, where did I say pant's ipl performance alone should be the criteria for his selection in international cricket, Pant should be given a proper run in international cricket based on his performance in domestics and his overall potential and if he fails in international cricket after consistent chances then he should be sent back to domestics.  We have already seen dhoni's performance in international cricket for a long time so his IPL performance can't fool us since we know he's totally inept in international t20s but pant should be give a chance to show what he's got at the international level, unlike dhoni chamchas we are not stuck on one cricketer, we are willing to change our opinion if the player doesn't deliver unlike chamchas who are clutching to the straws based on dhoni's knocks in pyjama league.

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1 hour ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

So in the same token we should be taking performance of Pant also with a pinch of salt because he looked abysmal in international cricket and was struggling against mighty Bangla? Or is this parameter only for Dhoni? Decide one thing brother :cantstop:

Ok so now we are comparing a fully grown ass man to a youngster who doesn't have anywhere else to showcase his talents. And if one or two international matches are good enough to discard a youngster than god save indian cricket.

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