saik Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Traitor Manohar screwing India again. The ICC is planning to meet the BCCI officials in the Capital on Thursday and going by the SWOT analysis prepared by the ICC — as part of the global strategy — the world body plans to further cut down India’s financial position in world cricket. And the move hasn’t gone down too well with the members of the BCCI. The members had a conference call on Wednesday evening and felt the need to discuss these issues of policy and take appropriate decisions in this regard at the general meeting. “Representatives of 18 full members of the BCCI had a conference call this evening. The members of the BCCI have been observing certain developments at the ICC over the past year and a half. One such development being the shape being given to the outline of the global strategy for cricket which lists the heavy dependence on the Indian fans and revenues as a weakness and laments the lack of aggressive growth strategy to counter over – reliance on India. “Thus, the intent with regard to India is apparent. The decision to convert the Champions Trophy into a World T20 event is another such recent development. The members took a dim view of these developments and were of the view that the BCCI as an organisation would necessarily need to discuss these issues of policy and take appropriate decisions in this regard at a general meeting. Consideration of and deliberations on the proposed member participation agreement with the ICC would also be undertaken to safeguard the BCCI’s interest before the same is executed on behalf of the BCCI, in lines with an earlier decision of the general body of the BCCI,” a statement from the board said. The SWOT analysis that the ICC is planning to discuss with the BCCI officials lists their concern over the heavy dependence for revenues on India. Having accepted their dependence, the world body then points at the need to counter the over-reliance on India and brings up the high disparity in distribution of world cricket income. Clearly, the world body is still not done with reworking the financial revenue model of the ICC under current chairman Shashank Manohar. Speaking to CricketNext, a senior BCCI official said: “The SWOT analysis of the ICC is farcical. It is as if it has been prepared in the full knowledge that there is an elephant in the room but with the intent of ignoring the pachyderm. They have categorised the dependence on revenue and fans from India as a weakness and the ICC has repeatedly taken steps to malign the BCCI. This speaks volumes about the ICC leadership, which appears to be the biggest weakness and threat for the ICC. The fact that this process is being undertaken under the chairmanship of Shashank Manohar is quite telling of the state of affairs. If the ICC directors decide to continue with Manohar as the chairman, they may have to add his leadership as the number 1 weakness and the biggest threat for the organisation. “The dependence on revenue and fans from India cannot be countered by weakening the BCCI and acting in haste while the BCCI is weakened, a failure to recognize this is also a very big internal threat for the ICC. If the dependence of India is a weakness, then are the ICC representatives coming to find ways to weaken India further is the big question.” Earlier, the ICC after its last meeting in Kolkata decided to replace the 50-over Champions Trophy with a World T20. With a World T20 already planned for 2020 in Australia, the move came as a big shock as having another T20 tournament in less than a year’s gap would not only mean repetition for the fans, but also when it comes to the financial side of a multi-nation event, it would cost the BCCI heavily. velu 1 Link to comment
YCCC Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 What the * is a Swot analysis? Sounds very corporate. Link to comment
saik Posted May 16, 2018 Author Share Posted May 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, YCCC said: What the * is a Swot analysis? Sounds very corporate. Strength, Weakness, Opportunities and Threats. express bowling 1 Link to comment
YCCC Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 How about getting round a table, presenting your concerns in person and having a discussion/argument. If it's good enough for the Yorkshire leagues... Link to comment
sandeep Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) Diagnosis - International cricket is over-reliant on money earned from India. Prescription: Let's piss off the Indian cricket board by taking more money away from them, so that they have even less of an incentive to collaborate with the ICC. Brilliant. Such logic can of course be expected from the intelligent minds that are working hard on bringing the omnishambles known as T16.4 to life - for the women and children of course. "Swot" analysis and all that crap is just spin. ICC is in the control of the anti-BCCI faction - the Giles Clarke faction. They seized control at a time when the BCCI was rudderless, and they know its not going to last forever. So they are trying to ram through as many changes as possible - structurally and financially, to perpetuate their control. Edited May 16, 2018 by sandeep saik, MechEng, Turning_track and 2 others 1 2 2 Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 CoA/Lauda Committee likes this. MechEng, Gollum and SandeepMotta 1 1 1 Link to comment
sandeep Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 18 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said: CoA/Lauda Committee likes this. CoA is naive. They are more focused on internal 'reform', and they want to just "get along" with the ICC. They are missing the forest for the trees, either due to ignorance or apathy. Indian cricket is being disadvantaged by the changes made by the ICC. There was simply no reason for ICC to convert the next Champions Trophy tournament into a T20 from ODI. Especially over the objections of India. But they did it anyway. Such actions are bound to backfire. The more ICC pushes BCCI into a corner - and it can keep doing so for the short term - the less the BCCI will care when it comes to co-operating with the ICC when it comes to the annual calendar. 5 years from now, when the IPL is ready to expand to more teams, BCCI can easily say a big EFF YOU to the ICC, and take over another 2 months of the year. This is what the ECB knows and is afraid of. That's why they are desperately trying to make structural changes in the ICC. Jimmy Cliff and MechEng 1 1 Link to comment
UrmiSinhaRay Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 IPL will never expand.All the new expansion teams have flopped hard.Sent from my CPH1609 using Tapatalk Link to comment
sandeep Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 13 minutes ago, UrmiSinhaRay said: IPL will never expand. All the new expansion teams have flopped hard. Sent from my CPH1609 using Tapatalk IPL expansion is inevitable. Before 2025, there will be 10 teams, if not 12 - I can bet my house on that. Link to comment
G_B_ Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 the issue is not teams the issue is the bidding price for the teams. chewy and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
Khota Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Bidding should be based on what free market can bear. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
chewy Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 9 hours ago, G_B_ said: the issue is not teams the issue is the bidding price for the teams. +1 with current “brand” values of some of these IPL already exceeding $500m, and last new IPL teams cost over $300m, BCCI would be probably looking to sell new franchises at $500m that’s beyond many of the cash constrained billionaires / millionaire individuals in India maybe BCCI need to be flexible with pricing and payment strategy and also there will be resistance from current franchises as piece of the pie is reduced with more teams UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Khota Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 24 minutes ago, chewy said: +1 with current “brand” values of some of these IPL already exceeding $500m, and last new IPL teams cost over $300m, BCCI would be probably looking to sell new franchises at $500m that’s beyond many of the cash constrained billionaires / millionaire individuals in India maybe BCCI need to be flexible with pricing and payment strategy and also there will be resistance from current franchises as piece of the pie is reduced with more teams That I think is the biggest problem. These jerks want a monoply. UrmiSinhaRay and sandeep 1 1 Link to comment
Vilander Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 On 5/16/2018 at 3:15 PM, saik said: ver the heavy dependence for revenues on India lol Shashank Mumbaikar needs to understand. If he does not want reliance on India for revenues, he can take the world game back to 90's and travel economy no worries he can depend on only gora revenues for that. If ICC does not want Indian money, then dont take it no problem..haha UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Vilander Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 On 5/16/2018 at 6:21 PM, sandeep said: IPL expansion is imperitive Corrected. Rib it to the ICC, BCCI must expand IPL asap.. Khota 1 Link to comment
Pakistan Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 On 5/17/2018 at 4:26 PM, chewy said: +1 with current “brand” values of some of these IPL already exceeding $500m, and last new IPL teams cost over $300m, BCCI would be probably looking to sell new franchises at $500m that’s beyond many of the cash constrained billionaires / millionaire individuals in India maybe BCCI need to be flexible with pricing and payment strategy and also there will be resistance from current franchises as piece of the pie is reduced with more teams With that money you can buy bottom half Premier League clubs paying world's most popular sport. Link to comment
MechEng Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 On 5/16/2018 at 4:42 PM, sandeep said: CoA is naive. They are more focused on internal 'reform', and they want to just "get along" with the ICC. They are missing the forest for the trees, either due to ignorance or apathy. Indian cricket is being disadvantaged by the changes made by the ICC. There was simply no reason for ICC to convert the next Champions Trophy tournament into a T20 from ODI. Especially over the objections of India. But they did it anyway. Such actions are bound to backfire. The more ICC pushes BCCI into a corner - and it can keep doing so for the short term - the less the BCCI will care when it comes to co-operating with the ICC when it comes to the annual calendar. 5 years from now, when the IPL is ready to expand to more teams, BCCI can easily say a big EFF YOU to the ICC, and take over another 2 months of the year. This is what the ECB knows and is afraid of. That's why they are desperately trying to make structural changes in the ICC. Do you buy Bishen Singh Bedi's theory that IPL is money laundering scheme? Always wondered if true what will happen to IPL once all that black money goes away. Link to comment
Khota Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 11 hours ago, MechEng said: Do you buy Bishen Singh Bedi's theory that IPL is money laundering scheme? Always wondered if true what will happen to IPL once all that black money goes away. It may be a money laundering scheme but how is IPL model differenet then any other business model in India. I always like Bedi but sometimes he does comes across as a bitter individual. sergio04, sandeep and MechEng 1 2 Link to comment
sandeep Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 13 hours ago, MechEng said: Do you buy Bishen Singh Bedi's theory that IPL is money laundering scheme? Always wondered if true what will happen to IPL once all that black money goes away. Depends on your definition of black money. Do you know why so many rich Indians own "farmhouses"? Its a tax dodge. Does than mean farming is a disreputable industry? Do you know why so many celebrities like owning restaurants? Same thing. From an economists' perspective - 'black' money isn't that much of a terrible thing - especially if "laundering" it by spending it on legit businesses like sports creates economic activity and jobs. 99% of Indians have 'black' money i.e. money that they haven't paid the appropriate taxes on. How is that "black" money, ever going to go away? MechEng and sergio04 1 1 Link to comment
sandeep Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Khota said: It may be a money laundering scheme but how is IPL model differenet then any other business model in India. I always like Bedi but sometimes he does comes across as a bitter individual. Bedi's a good guy, but like a lot of old uncles, fallen in love a bit with the idea of saying controversial "hard truths". Its a bit of an agenda in a way and makes you take the things he says with a healthy pinch of salt. Khota 1 Link to comment
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