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Pakistan should win this.No matter How inexperienced their batting line up is,184 is paltry score.Shame,that is is only 2 match series.And England really need to think something about their test cricket rather than promoting 100 ball cricket.Oh,wait We are touring them to revive their test cricket like we did 4 years ago!!

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7 minutes ago, Bigg Brother said:

Pakistan should win this.No matter How inexperienced their batting line up is,184 is paltry score.Shame,that is is only 2 match series.And England really need to think something about their test cricket rather than promoting 100 ball cricket.Oh,wait We are touring them to revive their test cricket like we did 4 years ago!!

we are busy playing circus cricket ...Virat the latest casualty. Just like how the fecked up SA tour by landing 4 days before 1st test.

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21 minutes ago, Bigg Brother said:

Pakistan should win this.No matter How inexperienced their batting line up is,184 is paltry score.Shame,that it is only 2 match series.And England really need to think something about their test cricket rather than promoting 100 ball cricket.Oh,wait We are touring them to revive their test cricket like we did 4 years ago!!

 

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14 minutes ago, singhprakash72 said:

we are busy playing circus cricket ...Virat the latest casualty. Just like how the fecked up SA tour by landing 4 days before 1st test.

Due to excessive Cricket.That "Excessive" cricket included 2 months of meaningless cricket.

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The problem with Indian cricket (3rd class BCCIs included) they haven't learn't from so many disastrous overseas tours and continue to screw up their best chance to beat a weak Poms and Aussie side...Indian Coach aka cheerleader has instilled so much overconfidence that they just need show up on the morning of test match to win.

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36 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Outstanding from Pakistan. This is a side in transition yet have put fear in the minds of Poms, will most probably still lose this but appreciate the fight. Such a paucity in talent on the batting front, yet they have shed their ego and played test cricket the way it was always meant to be played. Our maharathis would have slashed and driven on the up, showed bucketful of intent only to end the day at 80/5. In the first 30 overs in SEN countries well left is the most important shot, don't know how many generations it will take before an Indian coach drills this piece of advice into the minds of our rockstars, the land of Gavaskar has been completely corrupted by egoistical showboats masquerading as top order batsmen. 

 

And kudos to cash crunched PCB. Playing 3 warmups, having a test against Ireland (neither pushover nor a major threat)...this is how you prepare for overseas tests. They did the same in 2016 and drew the series 2-2. We OTOH arrived 4 days before the 1st test in SA, didn't play a single warm up, didn't have a single outdoor session, spent majority of the time shopping and entertaining the WAGs and kids....the world's no 1 team folks :isalute:. What happened a fortnight later? We surrendered our pride and the series in 7 days of cricket...BCCI the so called richest board :hatsoff:, Kohli the so called tough leader with a thirst to prove himself overseas yet proceeded to schedule his wedding 10 days before the tour thereby compromising our chance at making history. Less said about his team mates the better: they wanted to attend the wedding and rub shoulders with B'wood celebs instead of dashing to SA and honing their skills. We will never change, kitna bhi paisa de do Indian cricket will never be a legendary side like WI/Aus inspite of everything going its way, a team that won't push boundaries in search of excellence will never be a world beater. 

the preparation done by pakistan - is a model to follow for indian players when going on overseas tours, but alas! ipl pyjama party slogging is more worth of their time....and then they nick off wide deliveries ! pitiful!!!

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18 minutes ago, LORD_analyst said:

the preparation done by pakistan - is a model to follow for indian players when going on overseas tours, but alas! ipl pyjama party slogging is more worth of their time....and then they nick off wide deliveries ! pitiful!!!

IPL is here to stay man, nothing much we can do about it. But still no excuse for improper preparation. Why schedule useless matches (eg SL last year) just before major tours. Or why arrange a wedding 10 days before a marquee tour? We return from England in September, play an Asia Cup and then before leaving for Australia in November BCCI chewts have slotted 2 tests, 5 ODIs and 3 T20s in October-November against WI :facepalm:. This is our golden chance to win for the 1st time ever in Australia and we may land there with fatigued players, may be some of our top guns may not even make it because of injury.  WI is a useless ODI team (not in top 8) and WT20 isn't due till 2020. Ideally BCCI should have simply played 2 tests against WI (their test team has potential) and given players a month to rest before flying to Australia. I don't see the point of T20s before a tour of Australia and 7-8 months before a 50 over CWC. If BCCI really wanted to help (both Team India's WC prep and their finance dept) they could have arranged a 7 match home ODI series against a strong ODI side like NZ/Eng/SA, would finish in 20 odd days which is better than the needlessly long (35 days !!!) tour hosting the WIndians. 

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53 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Kohli the so called tough leader with a thirst to prove himself overseas yet proceeded to schedule his wedding 10 days before the tour thereby compromising our chance at making history. Less said about his team mates the better: they wanted to attend the wedding and rub shoulders with B'wood celebs instead of dashing to SA and honing their skills. We will never change, kitna bhi paisa de do Indian cricket will never be a legendary side like WI/Aus inspite of everything going its way, a team that won't push boundaries in pursuit of excellence will never be a world beater. 

marriage was a necessary thing for him- other test specialists like vijay,rahul,pujara should be ashamed by reaching a fcking 5 days before test series....money hungry whores.

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13 minutes ago, putrevus said:

How did they do under previous coaches, it is not the coach it is players who are inept.Can't keep blaming coaches.

infact most of the blame goes to our top order batsmen like che ,vijay,rahul,dhawan chewts who did jackshi*t in saf .

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4 minutes ago, LORD_analyst said:

marriage was a necessary thing for him- other test specialists like vijay,rahul,pujara should be ashamed by reaching a fcking 5 days before test series....money hungry whores.

Sure marriage is necessary but if he were true to his word he could have arranged it post SA tour. Muhurat is available even in Feb-March....he could have tied the mangalsutra during the stupid Nidahas Trophy period which he skipped anyway. This was Virat's 1st high profile tour as full time captain in a SENA country and he took it lightly. 

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1 minute ago, Gollum said:

Sure marriage is necessary but if he were true to his word he could have arranged it post SA tour. Muhurat is available even in Feb-March....he could have tied the mangalsutra during the stupid Nidahas Trophy period which he skipped anyway. This was Virat's 1st high profile tour as full time captain in a SENA country and he took it lightly. 

don't agree marriage is an auspicious occassion in one's life , it is more importan to him than any 'tour'...but other players showed their filthy attitude towards test cricket...

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Just now, LORD_analyst said:

don't agree marriage is an auspicious occassion in one's life , it is more importan to him than any 'tour'...but other players showed their filthy attitude towards test cricket...

I agree his team mates and coaching staff showed despicable attitude. 

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9 hours ago, Mosher said:

Hasan quickest has been 144k and average 138 lol. Bumrah is a lot quicker than that. 

What use of that speed if he has no control and keep bowling no in important matches?

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9 hours ago, Gollum said:

Outstanding from Pakistan. This is a side in transition yet have put fear in the minds of Poms, will most probably still lose this but appreciate the fight. Such a paucity in talent on the batting front, yet they have shed their ego and played test cricket the way it was always meant to be played. Our maharathis would have slashed and driven on the up, showed bucketful of intent only to end the day at 80/5. In the first 30 overs in SEN countries well left is the most important shot, don't know how many generations it will take before an Indian coach drills this piece of advice into the minds of our rockstars, the land of Gavaskar has been completely corrupted by egoistical showboats masquerading as top order batsmen. 

 

And kudos to cash crunched PCB. Playing 3 warmups, having a test against Ireland (neither pushover nor a major threat)...this is how you prepare for overseas tests. They did the same in 2016 and drew the series 2-2. We OTOH arrived 4 days before the 1st test in SA, didn't play a single warm up, didn't have a single outdoor session, spent majority of the time shopping and entertaining the WAGs and kids....the world's no 1 team folks :isalute:. What happened a fortnight later? We surrendered our pride and the series in 7 days of cricket...BCCI the so called richest board :hatsoff:, Kohli the so called tough leader with a thirst to prove himself overseas yet proceeded to schedule his wedding 10 days before the tour thereby compromising our chance at making history. Less said about his team mates the better: they wanted to attend the wedding and rub shoulders with B'wood celebs instead of dashing to SA and honing their skills. We will never change, kitna bhi paisa de do Indian cricket will never be a legendary side like WI/Aus inspite of everything going its way, a team that won't push boundaries in pursuit of excellence will never be a world beater. 

Interesting observation, I might blame it partly on the bats. PCB is not a wealthy board and you can see that in their cricket equipment, the bats used by Pakistani players are easily available in standard sports shop in Mumbai, as a result they are not conditioned to play risky shots and hence stick to old fashioned batting approach - leave good balls and play attrition cricket.

 

This could be another reason why big hitters have disappeared from Pakistan. India, England and Australia have advanced T20 competitions and also the money to buy expensive high tech bats, can't say the same for padosis.

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17 hours ago, adi B said:

Bro bumrah is miles quicker than that malnourished trundler hasan Ali,has he ever bowled a 90mph ball :laugh:

Who cares even more than 90 mph quicker bowler bowling wild and cannot bowl wicket to wickets. Our malnourished trundler hasan Ali destroyed England, where on the other hand when India tour in england, England will destroy bumrah :cantstop:. You guys have no rights to compare your mindless fragile bowlers with our super talent fast bowlers.:cantstop:

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18 hours ago, LORD_analyst said:

ur pace master akhtar averages 2.5 wickets per test in saf  i.e 1 wicket per innings in saf...hahahahahahahah  chewtiya

Hahhaha lol chewtiya having lot of butt hurt :cantstop:. BTW how come akthar to this comparison? Then lets not talk about stats of venketesh prasad in SA :cantstop:

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17 hours ago, adi B said:

Arey ghonchu ,speed is measured dyring yge release of the ball ,what dies that have to do with the pitch ?

Then what is the purpose of pitches having grass? Why india dont prepare green grass pitches like england? :cantstop: 

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Interesting observation, I might blame it partly on the bats. PCB is not a wealthy board and you can see that in their cricket equipment, the bats used by Pakistani players are easily available in standard sports shop in Mumbai, as a result they are not conditioned to play risky shots and hence stick to old fashioned batting approach - leave good balls and play attrition cricket.
 
This could be another reason why big hitters have disappeared from Pakistan. India, England and Australia have advanced T20 competitions and also the money to buy expensive high tech bats, can't say the same for padosis.


Strange observation

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Anyway enough trolling Indians and please appreciate our effort. we did well yesterday. I know you guys will cheer for us to win over Englishmen. We can finish this game within 4 days. :dance:

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5 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

Pakistan always plays well in England for no apparent reason. This same side got blanked in NewZealand and also at home against SL & WI. Even Ireland gave more trouble to Pak than what Poms are doing. :phew:

Pak batsmen handle lateral movement better than Indians. However they are piss poor/scared against genuine pace and bounce, hence their atrocious record in Aus and SA. They have always had good 'kiss the deck' quick bowlers rather than 'slam the deck' types....their team is basically made to order for Eng and NZ pitches, SA less successful and Aus no contest.

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And catching is another key issue, Pakistanis were fantastic in trying conditions (extremely cold, movement in air even after taking edge) yesterday. Our idiots would have missed 5 catches and never have attempted the tough ones, hands in pockets types. Today Cook has already dropped a sitter and Eng are paying for that. If we drop 20-25 catches in the 5 tests we will surely lose, that is why Kohli/Dhawan should be away from slips/gully and that waste of sperm Pappu Patel shouldn't be allowed to leave the country the whole year, there should be lookout notices for him in all airports/ports. Phir bhi baaki ke gadhe catch chorenge lekin kaafi kam.

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10 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Pak batsmen handle lateral movement better than Indians. However they are piss poor/scared against genuine pace and bounce, hence their atrocious record in Aus and SA. They have always had good 'kiss the deck' quick bowlers rather than 'slam the deck' types....their team is basically made to order for Eng and NZ pitches, SA less successful and Aus no contest.

 England is pretty much their second home since there is a massive support by Brit Paks. They probably don't feel as foreigners in UK compared to Aus/NZ/SA.

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8 minutes ago, Gollum said:

And catching is another key issue, Pakistanis were fantastic in trying conditions (extremely cold, movement in air even after taking edge) yesterday. Our idiots would have missed 5 catches and never have attempted the tough ones, hands in pockets types. Today Cook has already dropped a sitter and Eng are paying for that. If we drop 20-25 catches in the 5 tests we will surely lose, that is why Kohli/Dhawan should be away from slips/gully and that waste of sperm Pappu Patel shouldn't be allowed to leave the country the whole year, there should be lookout notices for him in all airports/ports. Phir bhi baaki ke gadhe catch chorenge lekin kaafi kam.

lmaooo...control yaar, itni bezzati. hamari fielding bhi chutya hay, somehow stepping up this game though. 

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3 minutes ago, MechEng said:

 England is pretty much their second home since there is a massive support by Brit Paks. They probably don't feel as foreigners in UK compared to Aus/NZ/SA.

Indians bhi bauhut hay england mein

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5 hours ago, Lala said:

Who cares even more than 90 mph quicker bowler bowling wild and cannot bowl wicket to wickets. Our malnourished trundler hasan Ali destroyed England, where on the other hand when India tour in england, England will destroy bumrah :cantstop:. You guys have no rights to compare your mindless fragile bowlers with our super talent fast bowlers.:cantstop:

first of all, no one bowls 90mph consistently in tests. Hassan has gone upto 90mph in t20s. And bumrah most certainly cannot bowl that fast in tests lolllllllll , he is a T20 specialist...wait let me rephrase that, he is an IPL specialist :phehe::phehe::phehe:

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21 minutes ago, MechEng said:

 England is pretty much their second home since there is a massive support by Brit Paks. They probably don't feel as foreigners in UK compared to Aus/NZ/SA.

But then almost every place should be India's second home considering our population and diaspora. Even in 2015 WC SF Indians outnumbered Aussies 3:1, that didn't stop us from getting massacred. This isn't a valid reason methinks. Sri Lanka have minuscule diaspora in Eng yet look at their performance in Eng this decade, 1-1 while we are 1-7 and both teams toured the same years (2011 and 2014). In fact India was lucky in the sense that we didn't tour in early summer, we have always struggled that time of the year in the past. We are simply not good enough to handle English conditions, our record there  lays the truth out bare: 6-30 in Eng, that too Eng never had ATG sides like WI/Aus. By comparison Pak is 11-22 and Lanka 3-8 !!!!! Something similar in NZ but there the record is even more embarrassing compared to other Asian teams, in SA and Aus India have competed much better thus reinforcing my original point.

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