Tests vs IPL & other leagues- real cricket vs lungi cricket.

[cric_fan]

Test cricket is here to stay. The real deal.

 

Battling it out for five days requires mental & physical strength. Fast bowler runs in, batsman watching every delivery like a hawk- some miss the edge, some take the edge, some whilstle past the chin, some swing, some seam, some slam into the body, some crush the toes, some connect the middle of the bat. Patience, patience is required.

 

A leggie plans he’s next move meticulously- the batsman is trying to figure out the leggie’s next move.

 

A close in fielder stands nervously meters from the bat, the slips constantly on edge. There are stares, words exchanged...at times heated & physical. The intensity cannot be beaten.

 

Test cricket is here to stay.

 

There is not much to say about IPL & other leagues.

 

Test cricket is here to stay.

[Gollum]

Spot on, test cricket is the greatest format and if a player wants to be called great, he needs to make a mark in this format. International T20 is tolerable but domestic T20 leagues across the globe are essentially circuses, in fact much inferior because circus artistes take great risks, shed more sweat/tears/blood yet are financially not that well off.

[Khota]

49 minutes ago, cric_fan said:

 

Test cricket is here to stay. The real deal.

 

Battling it out for five days requires mental & physical strength. Fast bowler runs in, batsman watching every delivery like a hawk- some miss the edge, some take the edge, some whilstle past the chin, some swing, some seam, some slam into the body, some crush the toes, some connect the middle of the bat. Patience, patience is required.

 

A leggie plans he’s next move meticulously- the batsman is trying to figure out the leggie’s next move.

 

A close in fielder stands nervously meters from the bat, the slips constantly on edge. There are stares, words exchanged...at times heated & physical. The intensity cannot be beaten.

 

Test cricket is here to stay.

 

There is not much to say about IPL & other leagues.

 

Test cricket is here to stay.

 

When your fore fathers worked for the empire the brits had 5 days to play that crap. Test cricket is done. You can put a fork in it.

[MechEng]

Woh sab theek hai, but the world runs on money. There is a reason why we lost skilled artisans/craftsmen and gave way to manufacturing by machine, now we will have automation in future making many unskilled workers unemployed.

 

This the reality unfortunately, today how many music lovers are interested in learning sitar and tabla? All are going for EDM.

[Khota]

All those glorifying test cricket need to put their money where their mouths are. Welfare cricket.

[sandeep]

5 minutes ago, Khota said:

All those glorifying test cricket need to put their money where their mouths are. Welfare cricket.

Since when is money the only metric to judge a sport?  Do you think niche sports like shooting, archery, snooker, squash etc earn millions?  Each sport has its charm and appeal - and there is no denying the fact that a cricketer's skills are tested in a unique manner that simply can't be done in other formats.  

 

Bottomline is that each of cricket's 3 formats offer value.  Test and T20 cricket are an exhibition and examination of radically different skill-sets and execution within a sport.  Both should be respected and valued.  I have little time for small-minded "purists" who turn up their nose at T20, as well as the ignorant noobs who use dollars to dismiss the value of test cricket.

 

 

[Vilander]

4 hours ago, Gollum said:

Spot on, test cricket is the greatest format and if a player wants to be called great, he needs to make a mark in this format. International T20 is tolerable but domestic T20 leagues across the globe are essentially circuses, in fact much inferior because circus artistes take great risks, shed more sweat/tears/blood yet are financially not that well off.

they cater to diff set of audiences or audiences who are looking for an exhibition of different set of skills. Some people find a dogged backs against the wall defensive inning to save a test as absorbing/heroic as a whirlwind 75 in 30 balls to get an improbable t20 win, it shows two different set of skills in two different sports( read set of rules) played with same equipment and similar grounds with different pitches.

[Khota]

3 hours ago, sandeep said:

Since when is money the only metric to judge a sport?  Do you think niche sports like shooting, archery, snooker, squash etc earn millions?  Each sport has its charm and appeal - and there is no denying the fact that a cricketer's skills are tested in a unique manner that simply can't be done in other formats.  

 

Bottomline is that each of cricket's 3 formats offer value.  Test and T20 cricket are an exhibition and examination of radically different skill-sets and execution within a sport.  Both should be respected and valued.  I have little time for small-minded "purists" who turn up their nose at T20, as well as the ignorant noobs who use dollars to dismiss the value of test cricket.

 

 

Money is a very important metrics. So are you working for free for your employer because you enjoy it and don't care about the money? 

Why do you think so many desis do programming. Is it because they enjoy it or they can get their H1 visas and make money. Money is very important. 

Quit calling people ignorant if they disagree. I graduated from high school after two attempts. I am anything but ignorant. 

[Khota]

This is the most racist thread title on ICF after a long time. Does this mean wearing lungis is something bad. I will take lungi over test cricket anyday.

[kosingh]

It is the 50 over format that's tired. Nothing more boring than a bilateral 50 over competition. 

[sandeep]

35 minutes ago, Khota said:

Money is a very important metrics. So are you working for free for your employer because you enjoy it and don't care about the money? 

Why do you think so many desis do programming. Is it because they enjoy it or they can get their H1 visas and make money. Money is very important. 

Quit calling people ignorant if they disagree. I graduated from high school after two attempts. I am anything but ignorant. 

I wasn't calling you ignorant, Khota!  :)

 

Money is important, but not sure if you can use it as a metric to denote quality.  Kim Kardashian farting on camera will generate millions of dollars, compared to say, the the work done by a non-profit organization to clean up a river over a weekend.  Which has more "value"?  

Edited May 25, 2018 by sandeep

[Pakistan]

6 hours ago, Khota said:

When your fore fathers worked for the empire the brits had 5 days to play that crap. Test cricket is done. You can put a fork in it.

They have been predicting decline of test since the very start but it is still here.

[express bowling]

I enjoy test cricket the most.

 

Then ODIs.

 

Then T20s. 

 

But IPL has benefited Indian cricket a lot. We are getting a huge pool of more developed and more ready uncapped cricketers who are having the chance to play with international cricketers and work under top coaches before debuting for India.

 

My  main interest in the IPL is watching the talented India prospects play.

[Khota]

1 hour ago, Pakistan said:

They have been predicting decline of test since the very start but it is still here.

They are artificially propping it up. Profit fron T20 is recycled into Tests to keep on playing it. There is a reason why New Zealand does not want  to play it.

[Khota]

2 hours ago, sandeep said:

I wasn't calling you ignorant, Khota!  :)

 

Money is important, but not sure if you can use it as a metric to denote quality.  Kim Kardashian farting on camera will generate millions of dollars, compared to say, the the work done by a non-profit organization to clean up a river over a weekend.  Which has more "value"?  

Apples and Oranges but both are self sustaining. Tests needs money from other sources to keep it alive.Ashes will go on but others series will keep on declining.

[Brainfade]

No, they are both real.  But different.  If test cricket were of better quality and really needed better players, those test specialists would find T20 cricket simple.  But just ask Pujara or Alastair Cook.

 

They are both cricket, they are both real, they need different skill-sets.  If test cricket has those slip fielders standing nervously etc., T20 has those absolute beast catchers in the outfield.  LOI cricket has given test cricketers the push to be great athletes.  Don't discount that.  Doing so is just snobbery.

Edited May 25, 2018 by Brainfade

[sandeep]

4 minutes ago, Khota said:

Apples and Oranges but both are self sustaining. Tests needs money from other sources to keep it alive.Ashes will go on but others series will keep on declining.

If you take away government funding, 95% of Olympic sports are not self sustaining.  Should we get rid of them?  

 

You are clearly enough of a cricket fan to follow the game.  Sure, you prefer the shorter format, but even if you don't like the longer version, you have got to admit that it is a stronger test of defensive technique & shot selection for the batsmen?  A Yusuf Pathan can get away playing T20 but would never survive test cricket.  

[Brainfade]

3 minutes ago, sandeep said:

If you take away government funding, 95% of Olympic sports are not self sustaining.  Should we get rid of them?  

 

You are clearly enough of a cricket fan to follow the game.  Sure, you prefer the shorter format, but even if you don't like the longer version, you have got to admit that it is a stronger test of defensive technique & shot selection for the batsmen?  A Yusuf Pathan can get away playing T20 but would never survive test cricket.  

As a counter,  I give you Pujara, Geoff Boycott, and the army of slow-ass fielders who graced the test arena until recently.  

Edited May 25, 2018 by Brainfade

[Khota]

48 minutes ago, sandeep said:

If you take away government funding, 95% of Olympic sports are not self sustaining.  Should we get rid of them?  

 

You are clearly enough of a cricket fan to follow the game.  Sure, you prefer the shorter format, but even if you don't like the longer version, you have got to admit that it is a stronger test of defensive technique & shot selection for the batsmen?  A Yusuf Pathan can get away playing T20 but would never survive test cricket.  

That is true. All these sports like archery and synchronized swimmig are sustained by money. I only watch olympic for one event and that is the 100 m dash. Might watch 200 m also but that is it for me. Rest of the olmpics I can do without. I do watch hockey(only India).

 

Now the longer version tests endurance better but I watch the games for sixes and not dot balls. I need entertainment. I need my aderaline rush. I cannot stand a maiden over. I hate it when a batsman takes half an hour to get off the mark.

 

If you have ever seen baseball the batters who is coming up is already swinging his bat to getthe timing right from the first pitch. No time to settle own.

 

I need instant gratification. Microwave, optical fibre and all. Tests I can do without.

 

I hate the condascending manner of people who tell me what to like. I hate it when tests people are called purist. I call them lazy.

[Khota]

1 hour ago, Brainfade said:

As a counter,  I give you Pujara, Geoff Boycott, and the army of slow-ass fielders who graced the test arena until recently.  

Geoff Boycott mouth ran faster than his legs. He was useless fielder. 

Let us also not forget our Bedi, Parsanna, Chandrashekar etc. They were plain bad.