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6 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Chahar has not displayed any ability to bowl with the older ball or when the ball is not swinging.

 

In ODIs, it won't be possible to bowl more than 6 overs with the newish ball.

We already have two quality death bowlers in Bhuvi and Bumrah.However Bhuvi ability to take wickets in power play overs have declined badly.

 

With the World Cup in England we need a swing bowler who can tak regular wickets upfront .The inability to take wickets at the top one of the major reasons Pakistan hammered us CT final.

 

Umesh and Chahar have been our two bets power play bowlers in IPL this season.One of them is a must for ODI/T20 team.The other can be back up.

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35 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Not really , more then him i wud like us to see at some left seamers specially kulwant, sran and khaleel

And he was jst used with new ball, need bowlers who can bowl at anytime so ill even prefer ankit rajpoot

No point taking a bowler not good enough just for the sake of varity

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37 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said:

We already have two quality death bowlers in Bhuvi and Bumrah.However Bhuvi ability to take wickets in power play overs have declined badly.

 

With the World Cup in England we need a swing bowler who can tak regular wickets upfront .The inability to take wickets at the top one of the major reasons Pakistan hammered us CT final.

 

Umesh and Chahar have been our two bets power play bowlers in IPL this season.One of them is a must for ODI/T20 team.The other can be back up.

 

I am not in favour of choosing too many pacers who can bowl only in the first 10 overs of an ODI.  Umesh is likely to be there as he is already in the ODI team and in the Team India setup. Can't take 2 such pacers.

 

Better to choose a pacer who can pick wickets upfront as well as bowl later.

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15 minutes ago, mancalledsting said:

deary me...

what next? ambiti rayudu in line for a recall 

 

Rayudu and Raina already in Team India squads to England.

 

Maybe we will choose Shanatan Wat-ke-poot  next if a batsman is injured    :cantstop:

 

 

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His batting is a real plus, he can be our David Wiley.. swings new ball, handy batter considering lack of firepower in our non existing middle order. 

 

Bhuvi, bumrah, Kuldeep,  Y chahal, pandya.

I would rotate Deepak Chahar with Bhuvi and Hardik based on the pitch and form.

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A big No, don't want any such bowler who becomes liability after 2 -3 overs, he looks innocuous if swing is not available, unlike bhuvi he can't seam the ball, can't bowl yorkers at the death,  his pace is also not good enough. It hardly swings now in England in loi, most of the tracks are flat, chahar will be cannon fodder on such tracks. 

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6 hours ago, Laaloo said:

This is the fear of csk winning the IPL :(

 

next few years we will see retreads from csk getting back into Indian team. Sad days :((

Thank god, dhoni is not our captain anymore  otherwise we would have had unadkat, chahar and mohit sharma opening the bowling for us :hmm:

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14 minutes ago, speedheat said:

Thank god, dhoni is not our captain anymore  otherwise we would have had unadkat, chahar and mohit sharma opening the bowling for us :hmm:

dhoni is now praising fast bowlers

 

 

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/ipl/top-stories/indian-fast-bowlers-performance-big-positive-of-this-ipl-ms-dhoni/articleshow/64336244.cms

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IPL 2018: Deepak Chahar's ability to swing the ball at good pace impresses CSK coach Stephen Fleming

https://www.firstpost.com/firstcricket/sports-news/ipl-2018-deepak-chahars-ability-to-swing-the-ball-at-good-pace-impresses-csk-coach-stephen-fleming-4444635.html

 

"The fact that he swings the ball is important. Lots of trends in the game, obviously wrist spinners and swinging the ball are very effective at the moment. And he does that and he does it at good pace too. At the moment he's around 140 kph, 143 tops. He's gone really well. He has got to find and maintain consistency and that will come with experience," he said.

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3 hours ago, MultiB48 said:

And he does that and he does it at good pace too. At the moment he's around 140 kph, 143 tops.

 

In the final match, Chahar's fastest ball was 136.6 k. Lots of balls in the 125 k to 130 k range.  He has not even touched 140 k in  5  matches he has played in this IPL.  I don't know how Fleming is claiming that he is around 140 k  !

 

He has bowled some 140 k + deliveries in the tournament, but that is not his normal speed.

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15 minutes ago, Forever Indian said:

But replaced by Kaul in the Trundler quota.

Yes but on any given day I will take kaul over undtut, atleat he has quick yorker and a good knuckle ball, tbh one such trundler in t20 is OK for variety in the  pace of the attack, 1000 times better option than that retard unadtcut.

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3 minutes ago, speedheat said:

Yes but on any given day I will take kaul over undtut, atleat he has quick yorker and a good knuckle ball, tbh one such trundler in t20 is OK for variety in the  pace of the attack, 1000 times better option than that retard unadtcut.

Anyway Unadcut priority has changed now to test cricket. He is more interested in real cricket, youngster can never forget the sacrifice he has made unlike daddu.

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6 minutes ago, raki05 said:

Anyway Unadcut priority has changed now to test cricket. He is more interested in real cricket, youngster can never forget the sacrifice he has made unlike daddu.

He can play test cricket  as a specialist spinner guised  as a pacer just to troll some international Commies and batters.

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1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

In the final match, Chahar's fastest ball was 136.6 k. Lots of balls in the 125 k to 130 k range.  He has not even touched 140 k in  5  matches he has played in this IPL.  I don't know how Fleming is claiming that he is around 140 k  !

 

He has bowled some 140 k + deliveries in the tournament, but that is not his normal speed.

in the finals speedometer was malfunctioning .bhuvi was bowling sharp but 1 ball was at 130 next at 140 .

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9 hours ago, MultiB48 said:

in the finals speedometer was malfunctioning .bhuvi was bowling sharp but 1 ball was at 130 next at 140 .

 

We see this speed pattern with Bhuvi in international matches too.

 

Other pacers were bowling at their normal speeds in the final.

 

Even if we consider the whole IPL, Chahar has not bowled around 140 k or even close to it.

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People dont get this basic stuff. If you are a bowler who trundles, batsmen are more willing to bat outside the crease to counter any swing that he has. Unless the trundler can bowl with wk standing up, he is pretty useless.

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One mustn't read too much from the ipl performance ,the conditions ,management,international colleagues etc put various inputs which can enhance the performance of players to bowl good 4 overs but for long sustainable bowling option one shouldn't give lol too kuch priority. 

We have already tried crap players from the past who've failed miserably in intl cricket ,chahar can bowl 2-4 good overs but most likely go for plenty later on 

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1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

We are this speed pattern with Bhuvi in international matches too.

 

Other pacers were bowling at their normal speeds in the final.

 

Even if we consider the whole IPL, Chahar has not bowled around 140 k or even close to it.

Chahar mostly bowls in 120s ,most recently he has bowled in 130-35 channel in t20s,so can expect he will unleash his dibly doblies after 2-3 overs of oddity in odis and tests

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15 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

We are this speed pattern with Bhuvi in international matches too.

 

Other pacers were bowling at their normal speeds in the final.

 

Even if we consider the whole IPL, Chahar has not bowled around 140 k or even close to it.

if you mean proper 140k ,ofc he is not 140k bowler ,but he is same pace as bhuvi.

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19 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

In the final match, Chahar's fastest ball was 136.6 k. Lots of balls in the 125 k to 130 k range.  He has not even touched 140 k in  5  matches he has played in this IPL.  I don't know how Fleming is claiming that he is around 140 k  !

 

He has bowled some 140 k + deliveries in the tournament, but that is not his normal speed.

he was hitting 140 before his injury and that interview of Fleming was when he picked those wickets again SRH early on. After coming back from injury, he has bowled very much within himself.

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11 hours ago, adi B said:

One mustn't read too much from the ipl performance ,the conditions ,management,international colleagues etc put various inputs which can enhance the performance of players to bowl good 4 overs but for long sustainable bowling option one shouldn't give lol too kuch priority. 

We have already tried crap players from the past who've failed miserably in intl cricket ,chahar can bowl 2-4 good overs but most likely go for plenty later on 

CSK quota bhai. Remember Negi??? Out of nowhere into the Indian team and also playing eleven. :biggrin:

If they have to select bowler based on IPL (totally against it) then select Prasidh Krishna. Has done much better. Although I don't rate him too. :phehe:

People must understand IPL is for spotting talent but that doesn't mean everyone who does well in IPL is a talent.

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Lots of Dhoni haters in this forum. Still butthurt mumbi fans from the IPL last week. Some of them even upvoting a Pakistani poster laughing at our trundlers. Shouldn't they be called Mumbi Pakistanis. Chill out guys this is the Cricket forum. Keep calm and eat vada pavs :rotfl:

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On 5/28/2018 at 11:48 PM, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Not really , more then him i wud like us to see at some left seamers specially kulwant, sran and khaleel

And he was jst used with new ball, need bowlers who can bowl at anytime so ill even prefer ankit rajpoot

Agreed ..i would have picked Khaleel ahead of SID Kaul , i appreciate SID and he is in good form but I feel Khaleel is consistently 140+ and left arm , sid is more of a Bhuvi type bowler and he can be played in 11 if bhuvi is not playing and one requires a genuine line n length swing bowler, sid will not get a chance ahead of bhuvi, khaleel is a genuine quick left arm bowler and he has a future for sure with indian team , i fail to see too much of a future for SID, may be i am biased but i feel he will be attacked as he is a bit slow and does not create terror in the batsman.

 

In international cricket , bhuvi is a tiger with the new ball , first 6 overs he is likely to get one to 3 wickets but if the opposition team sees him through , he becomes an average bowler, i think same is the case with SID, he could be dangerous in first 6 overs and then he would be attacked where as I feel khaleel can be dangerous till the ball is 30 overs Old and may get some reverse also later.

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