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32 minutes ago, tweaker said:

Selectors should select Rishabh in his place. 

 

But knowing this selection committee the chance of selection of Dinesh Karthik looks more bright. 

yep indian cricket sucks 

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2 hours ago, Gollum said:

Hope he is 100% fit before England. The reason Pak won the 1st test was outstanding catching by slip cordon and their WK Sarfraz, can't think of any other Indian keeper match Super Saha behind the stumps. 

Exactly! Also, without taking anything away from the brave fighting spirit shown by the Irish, the reason IRE v PAK Test was so close is to somewhat extent due to the considerable largesse of the Pakistani fielding. Contrast with the absolute dismantling of England, and you can easily appreciate the importance of a clinical fielding display.

 

In real cricket, the wicketkeeper is foremost a part of the bowling unit, and it is time people realised that.

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9 minutes ago, Magneto said:

Lol, I spotted this during the match itself, but some idiot @vvvslaxman kept arguing with me that he had no injury. So much for being armchair experts. 

No some idiot said he was dropped first time because of injury. He batted for like 11 overs and kept for 20 overs.

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8 hours ago, Lala said:

He should be replaced by KL Rahul as wicket keeper/batsman

DK would be the next in line. He has kept wickets. He can open the innings instead of Dhawan who struggles against swing.

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Our greatest ever keeper bat in tests is injured :nervous:

 

While a freeloader is celebrated for a fluky IPL victory where he had all of maybe 1% contribution at best,our unsung hero who has won us crucial games and is injured ahead of a big series is being largely ignored :((

 

Too many fans with a lack of cricketing acumen

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3 minutes ago, maniac said:

Our greatest ever keeper bat in tests is injured :nervous:

 

While a freeloader is celebrated for a fluky IPL victory where he had all of maybe 1% contribution at best,our unsung hero who has won us crucial games and is injured ahead of a big series is being largely ignored :((

 

Too many fans with a lack of cricketing acumen

yea right lol seriously the hype is going to explode on your face. His keeping is still questionable against spin.

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Just now, vvvslaxman said:

yea right lol seriously the hype is going to explode on your face. His keeping is still questionable against spin.

Saha at his best can score a ugly but resilient 20....DK a beautiful 30 and Parthiv an attractive 40.

 

Now for those additional 20 odd runs and some aesthetically pleasing viewing,the downside is these 2 will single-handedly revive careers and by that I mean careers of opposition batsmen.

 

Cook will be praying right now to have one of these 2 as the keeper for the England series lol

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3 hours ago, maniac said:

Saha at his best can score a ugly but resilient 20....DK a beautiful 30 and Parthiv an attractive 40.

 

Now for those additional 20 odd runs and some aesthetically pleasing viewing,the downside is these 2 will single-handedly revive careers and by that I mean careers of opposition batsmen.

 

Cook will be praying right now to have one of these 2 as the keeper for the England series lol

Agree apart from the first line. He can also dig his team out of trouble from 126/5 with a century or score unbeaten 50s in both innings (adjudged MoM performance) of a low-scoring match against New Zealand on a green track (Eden Gardens). Who cares if those runs were pretty (I personally think they were not particularly ugly) -- they got the job done, look in the scorebook if you have doubts!

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8 minutes ago, maniac said:

Saha at his best can score a ugly but resilient 20....DK a beautiful 30 and Parthiv an attractive 40.

 

Now for those additional 20 odd runs and some aesthetically pleasing viewing,the downside is these 2 will single-handedly revive careers and by that I mean careers of opposition batsmen.

 

Cook will be praying right now to have one of these 2 as the keeper for the England series lol

5 batsmen 1 average batting keeper, 1 fake all rounder 4 bowlers. Any top order collapse means India getting bundled out for 150. Some resistance is needed down the order. if Saha flunks in first 2 tests and India loses it, he might get "injured" again. Saha has to step up. But his Bangladesh type batting may never improve. Even KKD is not a long term option. india needs someone fresh athletic wicket keeper.

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2 minutes ago, Garuda said:

@vvvslaxman@Forever Indian Guys ignore the butthurt trolls. They are still burning from their dumping out of the IPL last week and CSK winning this week :laugh:. I can't imagine how they show the hate in the cricket forum. truly pathetic :facepalm:

This guy is still having serious heart burns one can see that lol 

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4 minutes ago, Garuda said:

@vvvslaxman@Forever Indian Guys ignore the butthurt trolls. They are still burning from their dumping out of the IPL last week and CSK winning this week :laugh:. I can't imagine how they show the hate in the cricket forum. truly pathetic :facepalm:

It is because of @Magnetos millipede that CSK won, got to give him that!

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2 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

DK would be the next in line. He has kept wickets. He can open the innings instead of Dhawan who struggles against swing.

He had a terrific 2007 tour but he didn't keep in that series. Keeping in test cricket and then opening is an uphill battle for the best, forget an average player like Karthik. If he has to keep he must bat lower down the order, however I would prefer him over Pappu/Pant in case Saha doesn't recover from the injury. 

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How did Pant keep in IPL, I am surprised that he did not make even the squads for both T20 and odis. Any sane selector would select him an backup/understudy for a this long  test tour.

 

MSK might be worst selector in recent times, he has no progressive thinking and has zero thought for future.

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2 hours ago, maniac said:

Saha at his best can score a ugly but resilient 20....DK a beautiful 30 and Parthiv an attractive 40.

 

Now for those additional 20 odd runs and some aesthetically pleasing viewing,the downside is these 2 will single-handedly revive careers and by that I mean careers of opposition batsmen.

 

Cook will be praying right now to have one of these 2 as the keeper for the England series lol

Man you are being very harsh on Saha, he averages around equal/more than the other 2, besides he has more 100s than both PP and DK combined. In fact he even has a 100 outside Asia which a certain so called 'better cricketer than SRT' could never manage in 91 tests !!!! I would argue that at his best with the bat he will at the bare minimum match any other keeper in India's cricket history. 

 

I smell a very sinister agenda being put forth by CSK supporters whenever the issue of Saha comes up. I think they can't stomach the fact that a timid looking, shy, introvert from North Bengal has better test credentials than their thalaiva. I have observed this trend over the past 2 years, whenever Saha performs well they pretend he doesn't exist and the moment he has a bad match they jump on his head. In fact so shameless are these guys that they even hype up a serial failure like Pappu to put down Saha. For them India winning has no meaning, they only desire that Dhoni remain in public memory as a test hero which is a logical fallacy. These people may love their franchise and T20 cricket, but they know in the bottom of their hearts that to be called a great player, test performance is the numero uno criteria. It eats them from the inside that someone so simple looking with no PR machinery is slowly getting his due recognition as India's greatest keeper batsman, at least in the minds of knowledgeable cricket fans. 

 

Saha has been a vital pillar in our quest to number 1 spot in test cricket. He may lack the style but no doubting the substance.....as a matter of fact guys like Steve Smith/Shiv/Graeme Smith/Steve Waugh.... all are rightfully regarded as legends no matter how their runs came. Saha too has played a few clutch knocks in the last 3 years and add to that his ATG keeping (4 missed chances in the last 17 completed test matches !!!), he is the last player whose place should be questioned. 

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4 hours ago, abc said:

Exactly! Also, without taking anything away from the brave fighting spirit shown by the Irish, the reason IRE v PAK Test was so close is to somewhat extent due to the considerable largesse of the Pakistani fielding. Contrast with the absolute dismantling of England, and you can easily appreciate the importance of a clinical fielding display.

 

In real cricket, the wicketkeeper is foremost a part of the bowling unit, and it is time people realised that.

Exactly, that is the undeniable truth. Cricket's wicketkeeper is analogous to football's goalkeeper, you can never compromise on quality with either of these 2 positions. In football if a mid fielder messes up his team loses possession of the ball, if a goalkeeper effs up the team concedes a goal. Bowlers get confidence depending on who's behind the stumps, see the effect Parthiv had on Ashwin against Eng 2016/Centurion 2018.....how can you expect a bowler to give his 100% with a serial dropper as the last line behind the stumps? There is a reason CA delayed Gilly's test debut even though he was 2x the batsman the best version of Healy could ever be.

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7 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

DK would be the next in line. He has kept wickets. He can open the innings instead of Dhawan who struggles against swing.

Usually wicket keepers are not opening the batting in test match and they play no;6, or 7 in batting order since batting straight after keeping is a tired job. If so either KL or DK needs to play the position where saha played in Tests.

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9 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

No some idiot said he was dropped first time because of injury. He batted for like 11 overs and kept for 20 overs.

Yes, he had shoulder injury first time as well.  

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23 hours ago, tweaker said:

Selectors should select Rishabh in his place. 

 

But knowing this selection committee the chance of selection of Dinesh Karthik looks more bright. 

Dk Actually have very good record in England. But Rishabh should be tried in at least one game for sure. 

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13 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

yea right lol seriously the hype is going to explode on your face. His keeping is still questionable against spin.

And bhuvi/ashwin is a better bat than him. Also the horrendous DRS reviews. The superlative keeping against pacers cant hide other shortcomings. 

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11 minutes ago, sscomp32 said:

The superlative keeping against pacers cant hide other shortcomings. 

 

13 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

[...] His keeping is still questionable against spin.

Most people over 50* would beg to differ: https://m.hindustantimes.com/india-vs-sri-lanka-2017/wriddhiman-saha-proves-pedigree-with-masterclass-behind-stumps-at-colombo/story-pNRx83uLy0jWHqZMw1QosJ.html

 

 

* IQ, not age

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5 hours ago, sscomp32 said:

And bhuvi/ashwin is a better bat than him. Also the horrendous DRS reviews. The superlative keeping against pacers cant hide other shortcomings. 

In overseas tests Bhuvi/Ashwin are also better than Dhoni. Imagine the nerve of a Dhoni chamcha talking about DRS when it was your thalaiva who blocked DRS usage in India matches hence costing us many test wins.

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4 hours ago, The Dark Horse said:

Blooding Pant in tests in England will be a horror show for the youngster. Best bet would be the LOIs but our selectors select Manish Pandey :facepalm:That leaves us with DK and Parthiv. Knowing Kohli, he'll go with Parthiv.

Why will it be a horror show, if Pant is good enough he should be able to do well. This notion that we need to protect youngsters is ruining them.He should have been part of odis long time ago and he would have been ready for tests at least as backup by now.

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17 hours ago, Gollum said:

Man you are being very harsh on Saha, he averages around equal/more than the other 2, besides he has more 100s than both PP and DK combined. In fact he even has a 100 outside Asia which a certain so called 'better cricketer than SRT' could never manage in 91 tests !!!! I would argue that at his best with the bat he will at the bare minimum match any other keeper in India's cricket history. 

 

I smell a very sinister agenda being put forth by CSK supporters whenever the issue of Saha comes up. I think they can't stomach the fact that a timid looking, shy, introvert from North Bengal has better test credentials than their thalaiva. I have observed this trend over the past 2 years, whenever Saha performs well they pretend he doesn't exist and the moment he has a bad match they jump on his head. In fact so shameless are these guys that they even hype up a serial failure like Pappu to put down Saha. For them India winning has no meaning, they only desire that Dhoni remain in public memory as a test hero which is a logical fallacy. These people may love their franchise and T20 cricket, but they know in the bottom of their hearts that to be called a great player, test performance is the numero uno criteria. It eats them from the inside that someone so simple looking with no PR machinery is slowly getting his due recognition as India's greatest keeper batsman, at least in the minds of knowledgeable cricket fans. 

 

Saha has been a vital pillar in our quest to number 1 spot in test cricket. He may lack the style but no doubting the substance.....as a matter of fact guys like Steve Smith/Shiv/Graeme Smith/Steve Waugh.... all are rightfully regarded as legends no matter how their runs came. Saha too has played a few clutch knocks in the last 3 years and add to that his ATG keeping (4 missed chances in the last 17 completed test matches !!!), he is the last player whose place should be questioned. 

You are smoking one of those funny cigarettes buddy. There are two type of CSK fans

1. Resides in Chennai or from TN (Usually a Dhoni fan but also fans of popular players like Suresh Raina, Dwayne Bravo, Matthew Hayden, etc)

2. Dhoni fans from other states not having a home franchise (once he finishes playing they may not support CSK)

 

I think you are confusing them. There are no fans of either type I have encountered in real life that put down Saha. At the end of the day, we are all Indian fans. Dhoni is not playing in tests anymore and most likely not play in T20I. I was happy that he retired from tests as I felt Saha is a better keeper which is more important in tests. I think MI fans may like Rohit but wouldn't want him in the test side (if they are sensible and intelligent :biggrin:).

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19 hours ago, Gollum said:

Man you are being very harsh on Saha, he averages around equal/more than the other 2, besides he has more 100s than both PP and DK combined. In fact he even has a 100 outside Asia which a certain so called 'better cricketer than SRT' could never manage in 91 tests !!!! I would argue that at his best with the bat he will at the bare minimum match any other keeper in India's cricket history. 

 

I smell a very sinister agenda being put forth by CSK supporters whenever the issue of Saha comes up. I think they can't stomach the fact that a timid looking, shy, introvert from North Bengal has better test credentials than their thalaiva. I have observed this trend over the past 2 years, whenever Saha performs well they pretend he doesn't exist and the moment he has a bad match they jump on his head. In fact so shameless are these guys that they even hype up a serial failure like Pappu to put down Saha. For them India winning has no meaning, they only desire that Dhoni remain in public memory as a test hero which is a logical fallacy. These people may love their franchise and T20 cricket, but they know in the bottom of their hearts that to be called a great player, test performance is the numero uno criteria. It eats them from the inside that someone so simple looking with no PR machinery is slowly getting his due recognition as India's greatest keeper batsman, at least in the minds of knowledgeable cricket fans. 

 

Saha has been a vital pillar in our quest to number 1 spot in test cricket. He may lack the style but no doubting the substance.....as a matter of fact guys like Steve Smith/Shiv/Graeme Smith/Steve Waugh.... all are rightfully regarded as legends no matter how their runs came. Saha too has played a few clutch knocks in the last 3 years and add to that his ATG keeping (4 missed chances in the last 17 completed test matches !!!), he is the last player whose place should be questioned. 

Any sane cricket follower knows that Saha is miles ahead of Parthiv. Most of us were in favour of Saha over anyone else. But the last SA series proved that Saha didn't do much wrt batting (he's still way better than Pappu mind you, a few posters like KT wanted Pappu in the team ahead of Saha for his batting - Let's call that a brainfade :giggle: )

As of now Saha is better now, closely followed by DK. Both DK and Pant are capable of playing as pure batsmen in LOIs, but with Rahul also in the bench I don't see all of that happening. Unfortunately, all said and done, Kohli will select Pappu lol.

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21 hours ago, maniac said:

Saha at his best can score a ugly but resilient 20....DK a beautiful 30 and Parthiv an attractive 40.

 

Now for those additional 20 odd runs and some aesthetically pleasing viewing,the downside is these 2 will single-handedly revive careers and by that I mean careers of opposition batsmen.

 

Cook will be praying right now to have one of these 2 as the keeper for the England series lol

How does that make Saha the best WK batsman? 

He should still be first choice keeper alright, but in no universe is he the best WK bat.. and neither is Dhoni

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5 hours ago, Gollum said:

In overseas tests Bhuvi/Ashwin are also better than Dhoni. Imagine the nerve of a Dhoni chamcha talking about DRS when it was your thalaiva who blocked DRS usage in India matches hence costing us many test wins.

Whats your issue with Dhoni. And why do you consider Saha as an ATG.

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On 5/29/2018 at 11:53 PM, Garuda said:

@vvvslaxman@Forever Indian Guys ignore the butthurt trolls. They are still burning from their dumping out of the IPL last week and CSK winning this week :laugh:. I can't imagine how they show the hate in the cricket forum. truly pathetic :facepalm:

i think this thread about saha injury.....stop spreading ur chuski sambar everywhere...stick to ipl., that's where u  belong....

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