If Pakistan win the second test....

[mancalledsting]

And we fail to win in England, we will be the laughing stock of world cricket. 

Whilst ours players were busy with vivo stylish awards, the Pakistan team were busy practicing on green wickets in the Gaddafi stadium, playing test match vs Ireland and warm ups vs county sides. 

 

What will we warm up with?

 

i) low grade cricket tamasha league 

ii) Useless test vs Afghanistan 

iii) 3 t20s

iv) 3 ODIs 

 

BCCI, you and your p*ss poor planning will bring shame to the nation and for 2 successive summers, Pakistan will have the upper hand over India. You Bhaboos thought you were clever by undermining tests and milking money with t20is. Look where your greed will get you? Will your board positions be tenable after 2 successive summers of humiliation. Move quick, rectify the problem now, before its too late. 

[vvvslaxman]

Pakistan also had their own share of ultra low quality tamasha league. Pakistan always has good bowling unit for English conditions. Also their boring batting line up ensures they can post a decent total. Even last time they drew 2-2. But we led the series only to let it slip by being uber defensive (went with 7 batsmen in the next test aiming for drawing 4 tests in a row)

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13 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Pakistan also had their own share of ultra low quality tamasha league. Pakistan always has good bowling unit for English conditions. Also their boring batting line up ensures they can post a decent total. Even last time they drew 2-2. But we led the series only to let it slip by being uber defensive (went with 7 batsmen in the next test aiming for drawing 4 tests in a row)

We won the second test after which under Captain Cool we were destroyed.I think apart from the third test we lost the other two in 2.5 or 3 days. 

Edited May 29, 2018 by gambhirfan

[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, gambhirfan said:

We won the second test after which under Captain Cool we were destroyed.I think apart from the third test we lost the other two in 2.5 or 3 days. 

In English conditions losing 20 wickets to Moeen Ali was a crime.

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24 minutes ago, mancalledsting said:

And we fail to win in England, we will be the laughing stock of world cricket. 

Whilst ours players were busy with vivo stylish awards, the Pakistan team were busy practicing on green wickets in the Gaddafi stadium, playing test match vs Ireland and warm ups vs county sides. 

 

What will we warm up with?

 

i) low grade cricket tamasha league 

ii) Useless test vs Afghanistan 

iii) 3 t20s

iv) 3 ODIs 

 

BCCI, you and your p*ss poor planning will bring shame to the nation and for 2 successive summers, Pakistan will have the upper hand over India. You Bhaboos thought you were clever by undermining tests and milking money with t20is. Look where your greed will get you? Will your board positions be tenable after 2 successive summers of humiliation. Move quick, rectify the problem now, before its too late. 

They scheduled T20's and Odi's first so that the players can get used to the conditions by the time the Test series begins.

[cric_fan]

Pakistan also had their own share of ultra low quality tamasha league.Pakistan always has good bowling unit for English conditions. Also their boring batting line up ensures they can post a decent total. Even last time they drew 2-2. But we led the series only to let it slip by being uber defensive (went with 7 batsmen in the next test aiming for drawing 4 tests in a row)

 

The difference? They went straight to a training camp on green wickets after PSL.

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4 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

In English conditions losing 20 wickets to Moeen Ali was a crime.

True.

[mancalledsting]

2 minutes ago, gambhirfan said:

They scheduled T20's and Odi's first so that the players can get used to the conditions by the time the Test series begins.

that's not the way to get used to conditions for test matches. 

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5 minutes ago, mancalledsting said:

that's not the way to get used to conditions for test matches. 

Some of them were supposed to play for India A so don't know what happened.

[mancalledsting]

2 minutes ago, gambhirfan said:

Some of them were supposed to play for India A so don't know what happened.

what happened was bhabuus confused test warm ups with extra opportunity to create more revenue 

[Iconoclast]

Don't worry, high probability we will fix the second match

[Pakistan]

4 hours ago, mancalledsting said:

And we fail to win in England, we will be the laughing stock of world cricket. 

Whilst ours players were busy with vivo stylish awards, the Pakistan team were busy practicing on green wickets in the Gaddafi stadium, playing test match vs Ireland and warm ups vs county sides. 

 

What will we warm up with?

 

i) low grade cricket tamasha league 

ii) Useless test vs Afghanistan 

iii) 3 t20s

iv) 3 ODIs 

 

BCCI, you and your p*ss poor planning will bring shame to the nation and for 2 successive summers, Pakistan will have the upper hand over India. You Bhaboos thought you were clever by undermining tests and milking money with t20is. Look where your greed will get you? Will your board positions be tenable after 2 successive summers of humiliation. Move quick, rectify the problem now, before its too late. 

All will be fine after you beat us as usual in World Cup next summer. Who care about Test cricket? Money losing business?

[Gollum]

Agree with OP.

 

ODIs/T20s aren't warm ups for tests. Besides the nature of pitches and format the most important thing we will be missing out is practice with the Red Dukes Ball in the run up to the 1st test. Pakistan didn't face this problem, they have been practising with Red Dukes balls ever since PSL ended. 

 

F U BCCI. 

Edited May 29, 2018 by Gollum

[mancalledsting]

1 hour ago, Pakistan said:

All will be fine after you beat us as usual in World Cup next summer. Who care about Test cricket? Money losing business?

True cricket fans care. You are talking as if proceeds of the profits go into our pockets. End of the day, we just sit on our sofas and watch it through the screen. Hence I’m more bothered about the quality of the product rather than how many dollars boards can rack up. 

[vvvslaxman]

1 hour ago, Gollum said:

Agree with OP.

 

ODIs/T20s aren't warm ups for tests. Besides the nature of pitches and format the most important thing we will be missing out is practice with the Red Dukes Ball in the run up to the 1st test. Pakistan didn't face this problem, they have been practising with Red Dukes balls ever since PSL ended. 

 

F U BCCI. 

That is one thing I am still unsure. Guys like Ashwin should practice with Kookaburra all day every day. Hardest ball for a finger spinner. Next hardest is Duke.  Any dog can turn SG ball on a slightly drier surface. Their inability to adapt to different cricket ball put us under serious disadvantage. I am more worried about support role by Jaddu and Ashwin. Will they step up? Ash probably will play for his batting credentials as well.

[Gollum]

6 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

That is one thing I am still unsure. Guys like Ashwin should practice with Kookaburra all day every day. Hardest ball for a finger spinner. Next hardest is Duke.  Any dog can turn SG ball on a slightly drier surface. Their inability to adapt to different cricket ball put us under serious disadvantage. I am more worried about support role by Jaddu and Ashwin. Will they step up? Ash probably will play for his batting credentials as well.

They will step up I'm sure. Ashwin outbowled Maharaj and Lyon earlier this year in SA, he has finally turned a corner. Only catching has to pick up , in Centurion Ash deserved a 10fer the way he bowled . I will look at Ash, Jaddu as all rounders especially the former. Time and again we have seen how important lower order runs are in England, even Pak showcased a brilliant exhibition of that in the 1st test. A 220/6 (60 overs) should get converted to 320 a.o and not 240 a.o.....I will look to bolster our bottom 5. Saha, Ash/Jaddu, Bhuvi, Shami, Ishant/Bumrah/Umesh will be a fab lower order that can do precisely that.  

[Lala2790]

6 hours ago, mancalledsting said:

And we fail to win in England, we will be the laughing stock of world cricket. 

Whilst ours players were busy with vivo stylish awards, the Pakistan team were busy practicing on green wickets in the Gaddafi stadium, playing test match vs Ireland and warm ups vs county sides. 

 

What will we warm up with?

 

i) low grade cricket tamasha league 

ii) Useless test vs Afghanistan 

iii) 3 t20s

iv) 3 ODIs 

 

BCCI, you and your p*ss poor planning will bring shame to the nation and for 2 successive summers, Pakistan will have the upper hand over India. You Bhaboos thought you were clever by undermining tests and milking money with t20is. Look where your greed will get you? Will your board positions be tenable after 2 successive summers of humiliation. Move quick, rectify the problem now, before its too late. 

After the Champions Trophy you already are friend

[mancalledsting]

7 minutes ago, Gollum said:

They will step up I'm sure. Ashwin outbowled Maharaj and Lyon earlier this year in SA, he has finally turned a corner. Only catching has to pick up , in Centurion Ash deserved a 10fer the way he bowled . I will look at Ash, Jaddu as all rounders especially the former. Time and again we have seen how important lower order runs are in England, even Pak showcased a brilliant exhibition of that in the 1st test. A 220/6 (60 overs) should get converted to 320 a.o and not 240 a.o.....I will look to bolster our bottom 5. Saha, Ash/Jaddu, Bhuvi, Shami, Ishant/Bumrah/Umesh will be a fab lower order that can do precisely that.  

I reckon Ashwin now more effective due to following reasons:

 

i) county experience 

ii) playing under captain who understands test cricket better

iii) playing with superior pace attack that does majority of workload overseas, hence ashwin is not overexposed

 

agree that lower order runs are useful but this must never come at the expense of the superior specialist bowler and should only come into play on 50/50 decision when comparing primary skills

Edited May 29, 2018 by mancalledsting

[Cricketics]

We will win in England. Even though ODI’s aren’t ideal, but the game time is important and that will give game time to guys like Kohli, and Rahul hopefully who would/should start in our test line up.

 

Also game against Afghanistan isn’t bad even though its in India. It will give decent warm up to the batsmen.

 

Yes, ideally we should play more 3 day warm ups in England but even if we start badly in the test series, we can’t make any excuses because we are playing in a 5 match series where we have enough time to bounce back. If we don’t, then our line up is just isn’t good enough. But I know these guys are good and albeit not much warm

up before test series, they will thrash England in England. I have faithbin this bunch. 

 

Bring it on.

[Khota]

2 hours ago, mancalledsting said:

I reckon Ashwin now more effective due to following reasons:

 

i) county experience 

ii) playing under captain who understands test cricket better

iii) playing with superior pace attack that does majority of workload overseas, hence ashwin is not overexposed

 

agree that lower order runs are useful but this must never come at the expense of the superior specialist bowler and should only come into play on 50/50 decision when comparing primary skills

Ashwin is the weakest link. he should be nowhere near the team.