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On his first foreign tour as an India A player to Kenya and Zimbabwe in July 2004, Mahendra Singh Dhoni’s roommate was the Delhi and India opening batsman Aakash Chopra. Having already made his Test debut, Chopra as the senior player, reached out to Dhoni and asked him what his sleeping habits were. “Aakash bhai, don’t worry, I will sleep whenever you switch off the lights and wake up whenever you choose to draw the curtains!” was the unassuming response.

“What about food preferences?” asked Chopra. “I will eat whatever is available,” remarked Dhoni with equal simplicity. On the same tour, Dhoni was the backup wicketkeeper to Dinesh Karthik. During net practice, he would often assist his senior keeper with throw-downs. “But isn’t he your direct competitor?” wondered a team-mate. “No problem, I just like to be involved in the game,” smiled Dhoni. “Look, it was my first India tour and I was just happy to be playing cricket,” Dhoni tells me now.

 

Thirteen years, more than 300 one-day internationals and 90 Tests later, Indian cricket’s most successful captain is still in a happy space in the autumn of his career, this time under the leadership of Virat Kohli. To understand the secret of his longevity, one has to peep into the enigmatic Dhoni mind that remains as inscrutable as ever. At the heart of his success lies an unshaken belief in never getting ahead of himself, of always living in the moment, of staying in a comfort zone without ever fretting too much. “If you have a glass of water in front of you, why do you need anything more to quench your thirst?” is his philosophical approach to life and sport.

When he was captaining India, Dhoni’s USP was his seeming calmness under pressure. Equanimity is a rare quality to possess in the combustible colosseum of modern-day sport, but it is an attitude to life which Dhoni has mastered, right from the days when he was sorting out tickets as a Class 3 railway employee at Kharagpur railway station. Life as a ticket collector wasn’t easy: hundreds of excitable passengers rushing in and out of trains meant being pushed and shoved all the time. And yet, Dhoni insists that he enjoyed the challenge and eventually became rather proficient at the task. So what were his goals when he was a Class 3 railway employee? “The first task was how to become a Class 2 employee! Where I come from in Ranchi, we don’t think too much about the future but choose to take life one step at a time,” he tells me.

 

No Indian cricketer has perhaps had a greater impact on the sport than Dhoni: a management consultancy report that traced the expansion of the market economy into small-town India was described as the Dhoni Effect. And yet, few have stayed as rooted: the shy boy from Ranchi who chose cricket over football in school, who likes nothing better than listening to happy Kishore Kumar songs and riding into the sunset on a bike, someone who is still living his own fairytale without ever getting carried away by his iconic status. After all, when you can deal with screaming passengers at a crowded Kharagpur station, then handling a tense situation on the cricket field is so much simpler.
 

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5 minutes ago, Pollack said:

 Outside ICF, I've hardly found dhoni polarizing. Everyone loves thala. India is a land of worshippers. First Sachin, now Dhoni. Indian public love to make their heroes greater than game itself. It doesn't matter for them if Sachin in his later part of career was selfish and more stats oriented or dhoni who has been sh!T in International t20s for years. All they want is someone to worship. :adore:

credit where due....dhoni revolutionized india's limited overs' cricket with his fitness criteria and quick thinking. but on the other hand, he took india to dark ages in test cricket where he set defensive fields, played underperforming pacers, didn't understood faster bowlers and was overly dependent on spinners ......undid what ganguly had done for indian cricket by his aggressive captaincy overseas.

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21 minutes ago, LORD_analyst said:

On his first foreign tour as an India A player to Kenya and Zimbabwe in July 2004, Mahendra Singh Dhoni’s roommate was the Delhi and India opening batsman Aakash Chopra. Having already made his Test debut, Chopra as the senior player, reached out to Dhoni and asked him what his sleeping habits were. “Aakash bhai, don’t worry, I will sleep whenever you switch off the lights and wake up whenever you choose to draw the curtains!” was the unassuming response.

“What about food preferences?” asked Chopra. “I will eat whatever is available,” remarked Dhoni with equal simplicity. On the same tour, Dhoni was the backup wicketkeeper to Dinesh Karthik. During net practice, he would often assist his senior keeper with throw-downs. “But isn’t he your direct competitor?” wondered a team-mate. “No problem, I just like to be involved in the game,” smiled Dhoni. “Look, it was my first India tour and I was just happy to be playing cricket,” Dhoni tells me now.

 

Thirteen years, more than 300 one-day internationals and 90 Tests later, Indian cricket’s most successful captain is still in a happy space in the autumn of his career, this time under the leadership of Virat Kohli. To understand the secret of his longevity, one has to peep into the enigmatic Dhoni mind that remains as inscrutable as ever. At the heart of his success lies an unshaken belief in never getting ahead of himself, of always living in the moment, of staying in a comfort zone without ever fretting too much. “If you have a glass of water in front of you, why do you need anything more to quench your thirst?” is his philosophical approach to life and sport.

When he was captaining India, Dhoni’s USP was his seeming calmness under pressure. Equanimity is a rare quality to possess in the combustible colosseum of modern-day sport, but it is an attitude to life which Dhoni has mastered, right from the days when he was sorting out tickets as a Class 3 railway employee at Kharagpur railway station. Life as a ticket collector wasn’t easy: hundreds of excitable passengers rushing in and out of trains meant being pushed and shoved all the time. And yet, Dhoni insists that he enjoyed the challenge and eventually became rather proficient at the task. So what were his goals when he was a Class 3 railway employee? “The first task was how to become a Class 2 employee! Where I come from in Ranchi, we don’t think too much about the future but choose to take life one step at a time,” he tells me.

 

No Indian cricketer has perhaps had a greater impact on the sport than Dhoni: a management consultancy report that traced the expansion of the market economy into small-town India was described as the Dhoni Effect. And yet, few have stayed as rooted: the shy boy from Ranchi who chose cricket over football in school, who likes nothing better than listening to happy Kishore Kumar songs and riding into the sunset on a bike, someone who is still living his own fairytale without ever getting carried away by his iconic status. After all, when you can deal with screaming passengers at a crowded Kharagpur station, then handling a tense situation on the cricket field is so much simpler.
 

Cheers :hatsoff:

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16 minutes ago, Pollack said:

 Outside ICF, I've hardly found dhoni polarizing. Everyone loves thala. India is a land of worshippers. First Sachin, now Dhoni. Indian public love to make their heroes greater than game itself. It doesn't matter for them if Sachin in his later part of career was selfish and more stats oriented or dhoni who has been sh!T in International t20s for years. All they want is someone to worship. :adore:

Did you put the bolded part in to get some chuski likes? :biggrin:

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Dhoni is a very defensive captain: Mark Waugh

Unimpressed with Mahendra Singh Dhoni's leadership skills, former Australia batsman Mark Waugh termed the Indian as a "defensive captain", who just sits back and wait for the opposition to make mistakes.

 

 

"The tactics are right out there, very defensive. Dhoni is a very defensive captain. I have watched him a lot and he sits back and tries to see the opposition make mistakes.

"They've really got to change their attitude. They're pretty good at home but away from home they probably should be ranked about eighth," Waugh was quoted as saying by the foxsports.com.au.

 

Another of my observation is Dhoni's leadership, which has been a complete contrast to his counterpart Michael Clarke. Dhoni has been just too negative, defensive and there has been dearth of ideas. His own poor performances have added to the whole catastrophe while Clarke has been very impressive. He has backed his players, innovated, slogged it out in the middle and most importantly learned from his mistakes.

 

 

Former Australian cricketer Mark Waugh criticised Indian captain MS Dhoni‘s captaincy skills. An unimpressed Mark Waugh termed Dhoni as a “rudderless” and “confused” captain in his latest column. Mark, who is also the younger brother of former Australian captain Steve Waugh, called Dhoni the “most disappointing captain” India has ever had. The younger Waugh believes that Sourav Ganguly is “by far the best Indian captain”.

“Out of all Indian captains I have seen or played against, I would go to an extent saying that MS Dhoni has been the most disappointing. Indian skippers have always been defensive especially when compared to their Australian counterparts, but still they haven’t been looked as rudderless as Dhoni,” Waugh wrote.

Talking about other Indian captains, Waugh wrote, “Mohammed Azharuddin was a smart skipper, while Tendulkar always led by example. Sourav Ganguly was by far the best Indian skipper and his positive leadership made a huge difference in the 2001 tour and later when Indians toured here in 2003-04. Captaincy is always not just about winning matches, but also about how you approach a game and manage the team. Ganguly did that pretty well.”

 

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39 minutes ago, Pollack said:

Nope. One of them just keep troll voting me. Zero f given. :biggrin:. I dislike CSK and chuskis. :phehe:

 

 

43 minutes ago, kira said:

Did you put the bolded part in to get some chuski likes? :biggrin:

 

39 minutes ago, Pollack said:

Nope. One of them just keep troll voting me. Zero f given. :biggrin:. I dislike CSK and chuskis. :phehe:

 

What is this? 

 

Dumb ducks keep that tripe in Ipl section don't pollute the grown up section with that.

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I understand fans worship him. But lot of former players who have nothing to gain by praising him worship him too. Michael Vaughan a big fan. Also players hand out generous complement and media also jump on any of his moves that actually work. 

https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/news/ipl-2018-ms-dhoni-behind-shane-watsons-success-in-ipl-final-1764347.html

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2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

I understand fans worship him. But lot of former players who have nothing to gain by praising him worship him too. Michael Vaughan a big fan. Also players hand out generous complement and media also jump on any of his moves that actually work. 

https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/news/ipl-2018-ms-dhoni-behind-shane-watsons-success-in-ipl-final-1764347.html

lungi fans and indian diaspora on twitter will eat them alive ,if he doesn't praise dhoni ...moreover, most of indians love white validation....a piece of 'tareef' from foreign cricketers , does a word of good to indians.

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1 hour ago, LORD_analyst said:

lungi fans and indian diaspora on twitter will eat them alive ,if he doesn't praise dhoni ...moreover, most of indians love white validation....a piece of 'tareef' from foreign cricketers , does a word of good to indians.

Not just white. West INdian players, Former Indian players. Let me list out the players who have talked against Dhoni. 1) Mohinder 2) Vengsarkar anyone else? 

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The problem lies with the selectors n BCCI, why was he still the test captain n even in the test side after destroying our test cricket, selectors questioning him was fired but Dhoni

He was a fantastic ODI player but his style of cricket n method also his skills have gone , he should have been kicked outta the odi n t20 side as well.

Yes if he was someone like Dravid or Laxman and a true sportsperson he would've retired but then when he can get all the money in IPL it is tempting to drag on even if your batting has become a joke and your attitude selfish n self preservation.

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Lol ok. I agree with Amarnath about his views. I was also pretty pissed after the 8-0 drubbing and perhaps he was too. Here's another video of him talking about it. He is talking about his test career and acknowledges he is doing fine in ODIs at 1:00. BTW he is also talking about another little player in 2:13. Amarnath you have the guts to speak out :congrats:. But his decision to appoint GG as captain is horrible. He performed like a mental midget against Eng and Aus.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Garuda said:

Lol ok. I agree with Amarnath about his views. I was also pretty pissed after the 8-0 drubbing and perhaps he was too. Here's another video of him talking about it. He is talking about his test career and acknowledges he is doing fine in ODIs at 1:00. BTW he is also talking about another little player in 2:13. Amarnath you have the guts to speak out :congrats:. But his decision to appoint GG as captain is horrible. He performed like a mental midget against Eng and Aus.

 

 

i think u are mentally retarded or something ...this thread is about dhoni....his stance on sachin and gg ,proves nothing about dhoni's failure.....here's another lungi fan countering allegation with another allegation.

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24 minutes ago, Garuda said:

Lol ok. I agree with Amarnath about his views. I was also pretty pissed after the 8-0 drubbing and perhaps he was too. Here's another video of him talking about it. He is talking about his test career and acknowledges he is doing fine in ODIs at 1:00. BTW he is also talking about another little player in 2:13. Amarnath you have the guts to speak out :congrats:. But his decision to appoint GG as captain is horrible. He performed like a mental midget against Eng and Aus.

 

 

A dhoni chamcha like you should be the last one to call others a mental midget, the biggest mental midget is dhoni himself, prime example of it is in the pic belowBgp0fJMCMAEjMnf_2.jpg.03e0185045cc5e69ac0118958c453199.jpg

Just look at him here, what was he thinking???? :hysterical:

 

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29 minutes ago, Garuda said:

Maybe on ICF but as an Indian fan, you have to accept players shortcomings no matter how famous they are. Players are not gods :biggrin:

true.....that explains the fact that dhoni was our captain of our test team for 10-12 horrible test matches.....if there was another captain ,his career would have ended.

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5 minutes ago, LORD_analyst said:

true.....that explains the fact that dhoni was our captain of our test team for 10-12 horrible test matches.....if there was another captain ,his career would have ended.

Dhoni is an ODI legend. He would have still played ODIs. By that logic, Sachin would be out after 2011 WC. He didnt perform anything of note

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18 hours ago, LORD_analyst said:

credit where due....dhoni revolutionized india's limited overs' cricket with his fitness criteria and quick thinking. but on the other hand, he took india to dark ages in test cricket where he set defensive fields, played underperforming pacers, didn't understood faster bowlers and was overly dependent on spinners ......undid what ganguly had done for indian cricket by his aggressive captaincy overseas.

Where exactly did Ganguly show his aggressive captaincy and what fast bowlers did he develop.Ganguly's captaincy gets overrated every day for doing nothing significant just like big four and their overrated stats.

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5 minutes ago, maniac said:

Darren Sammy won 2 WT20s as a captain :hmmmm2:

 

What is the criteria for this stat here?

Not sure Didn’t bother to do research. I presume it includes all T20 including leagues and internationals.

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1 hour ago, maniac said:

Darren Sammy won 2 WT20s as a captain :hmmmm2:

 

What is the criteria for this stat here?

agreed dnt knw what the criteria is when someone states he is the best t20 captain

Coz sammy has won more world T20 and rohit is at par with him in IPL 

 

So yes when someone says he is best captain in t20 its hype 

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23 hours ago, LORD_analyst said:

i think u are mentally retarded or something ...this thread is about dhoni....his stance on sachin and gg ,proves nothing about dhoni's failure.....here's another lungi fan countering allegation with another allegation.

Ignore that lungi he can live without his lungi but cant live without pulling sachin irrespective of thread.

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19 minutes ago, raki05 said:

Ignore that lungi he can live without his lungi but cant live without pulling sachin irrespective of thread.

 

Another bhakt of mini God. You are probably one of the many who trolled Sharapova's FB account. Keep trollvoting my posts you stupid little boy :laugh:

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23 hours ago, Garuda said:

Dhoni is an ODI legend. He would have still played ODIs. By that logic, Sachin would be out after 2011 WC. He didnt perform anything of note

abey ghonchu, sachin was the highest run getter from India (2nd overall) in the 2011 world cup, even if we agree with the point that sachin in his last 2 years was past his prime, who the fk is dropped right after being the highest run getter of the world cup? Sachin didn't even play too many odi series after 2011 and gave ample opportunities to younger players unlike your selfish boyfriend dhoni who won't even give up his spot in meaningless t20s.  This uncool parasite has been pathetic in all of his international t20 career and still continues to play t20s but you have a problem with sachin playing 2 years too many. Abey kisi se dimaag udhar hi maang le nalayak

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On 5/31/2018 at 12:50 AM, LORD_analyst said:

Dhoni is a very defensive captain: Mark Waugh

Unimpressed with Mahendra Singh Dhoni's leadership skills, former Australia batsman Mark Waugh termed the Indian as a "defensive captain", who just sits back and wait for the opposition to make mistakes.

 

 

"The tactics are right out there, very defensive. Dhoni is a very defensive captain. I have watched him a lot and he sits back and tries to see the opposition make mistakes.

"They've really got to change their attitude. They're pretty good at home but away from home they probably should be ranked about eighth," Waugh was quoted as saying by the foxsports.com.au.

 

Another of my observation is Dhoni's leadership, which has been a complete contrast to his counterpart Michael Clarke. Dhoni has been just too negative, defensive and there has been dearth of ideas. His own poor performances have added to the whole catastrophe while Clarke has been very impressive. He has backed his players, innovated, slogged it out in the middle and most importantly learned from his mistakes.

 

 

Former Australian cricketer Mark Waugh criticised Indian captain MS Dhoni‘s captaincy skills. An unimpressed Mark Waugh termed Dhoni as a “rudderless” and “confused” captain in his latest column. Mark, who is also the younger brother of former Australian captain Steve Waugh, called Dhoni the “most disappointing captain” India has ever had. The younger Waugh believes that Sourav Ganguly is “by far the best Indian captain”.

“Out of all Indian captains I have seen or played against, I would go to an extent saying that MS Dhoni has been the most disappointing. Indian skippers have always been defensive especially when compared to their Australian counterparts, but still they haven’t been looked as rudderless as Dhoni,” Waugh wrote.

Talking about other Indian captains, Waugh wrote, “Mohammed Azharuddin was a smart skipper, while Tendulkar always led by example. Sourav Ganguly was by far the best Indian skipper and his positive leadership made a huge difference in the 2001 tour and later when Indians toured here in 2003-04. Captaincy is always not just about winning matches, but also about how you approach a game and manage the team. Ganguly did that pretty well.”

 

He was defensive. Spoiled Ashwin's test career by giving defensive fields. Right hand spinner had to bowl round the wicket to eighties in test match. Disgusting. 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Straight Drive said:

He was defensive. Spoiled Ashwin's test career by giving defensive fields. Right hand spinner had to bowl round the wicket to eighties in test match. Disgusting. 

 

 

kept only 1 slip with new ball in nz....ball flew off the edge across 2nd slip....and mucullum scored 300 ....we drew barely a test match ,which was in our pocket.....pathetic test captain....almost as docile as his followers.

was only good on rank turners ....didn't know how to manage his fast-bowlers. dipsh*it captain.

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32 minutes ago, LORD_analyst said:

funny thing is that ...this thread is on dhoni and u are constantly blabbering on sachin....if ur lungi feels soo much affinity with sachin,then plz make other thread on sachin and sod off from here.:bumsmack:

Oi Dikwad, if you follow the same rules as you want me to do, you wouldn't have mentioned Dhoni in that Saha thread. Do as I say not as I do eh you little cunt. I will make a thread on Sachin. Better not cry after looking at it or throw your toys out of the pram like Sachin.

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