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Suresh raina to replace Ambati Rayudu in India's ODI squad for series against England.

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7 hours ago, PSB_Zone said:

The slot for which this selection is NO. 6..and Neither raydu was ideal nor manish. 

 

All the rest slots are taken.. 

Good point- Krunal Pandya then. The squad is crying out for a 6th bowling option

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13 hours ago, Cricket_Fan said:

He saved our backside against Pakistanis even in 2015 WC.SA had junior DALA hitting 140 clicks against him.And his role was always like this.Come at number 5-6 and make some quick runs and then field like a hungry tiger.

Pant has been a massive failure in his all international outings till now.He doesnt even have good A team outing other than Afghans.So I can understand selectors being sceptical about him.

 

Yes a massive failure in massive no of international outings till now. Great.

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5 minutes ago, Pollack said:

Did you watch Suresh Raina bat in some of his initial matches in Internationals?

We didnt have much options back then.We even kept an underperforming jaddu also for a long time.But this is now and we have a policy of trying folks in A teams and then getting them into main team.Pant has not passed that test yet.He will get his opportunity in England In few days and let us see how he performs.My guess would be he would hack it and fail like before.I dont see much future for him other than in T20 hackfest.

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12 minutes ago, Cricket_Fan said:

Check his A team outings too.And its more of the way he batted.Looked like a complete hack every single time.

Where did you watch him bat in A games?

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14 hours ago, Cricket_Fan said:

He had done few A team tours and failed to score runs in all of them except against Afghans.Also look at the way he batted in international games he got.Was batting like a deer infront of headlights.Even the much maligned VijayShankar did better than him.

Can you enlighten us on how Vijay shankar did better than him? Did Vijay shankar did a solo performance just for your eyes only that we missed out on?

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11 minutes ago, Laaloo said:

Really? Did you watch the final before Karthik came to the crease? This guy wasn't even good enough to nick even one of mustafizurs deliveries. Seems like you're a clueless hack.

No name calling, son.Stick to the topic please.

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1 minute ago, Cricket_Fan said:

No name calling, son.Stick to the topic please.

I'll call it as how I see it. Why don't you respond to the rest of the post? Tell us how Vijay shankar looked awesome in that final against the might bangladeshis.

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2 minutes ago, Laaloo said:

I'll call it as how I see it. Why don't you respond to the rest of the post? Tell us how Vijay shankar looked awesome in that final against the might bangladeshis.

You can call the names you want at your home, not here.

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3 minutes ago, Laaloo said:

I'll call it as how I see it. Why don't you respond to the rest of the post? Tell us how Vijay shankar looked awesome in that final against the might bangladeshis.

Who said he looked awesome. He did bad.But even that looked better than how Pant did in his outings.

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Just now, Cricket_Fan said:

Who said he looked awesome. He did bad.But even that looked better than how Pant did in his outings.

That's a baseless statement. Pant looked better than Vijay shankar did. Dude this guy couldn't even touch mustafizurs deliveries and that's when he was trying to slog :rotfl:

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A good performance by A Team doesn't necessarily means a player is good.
I have a feeling that the gulf between A team and Senior team is pretty large in many nations like South Africa and New Zealand.
I would actually go on record to say that India has the best reserve bench in cricket all over the world.
If the sports organization could give half the effort in their other sports , we might have gotten more Olympic Medals and played in the FIFA WC.

However , the other countries might not boast strong benches but they have a strong intent to win and work hard.
Plus they Don't have much politics at the senior level, so they can choose their best players , best coaches and give their best.
While our cricketers just think about getting a Bollywood girlfriend and do stupid photoshoots for GQ.



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I get the concept regarding the need for players to be fit. I just question whether the one yo yo test would be able to flush that out. I think they should come up with different benchmarks, that include cricket achievements in the domestic tournaments, fitness standards as they relate to specific skills e.g. slip catching, overall fitness standards such as the yo yo test, and maybe even something that measures mental fitness. Then evaluate the overall record before making the call as to whether a person should be in or out. Simply relying on the one yo yo test benchmark for determining if a person is fit to play, is lazy. So you got Raina instead of Rayudu. I am not sure, based on recent form, whether India is better off as a result. Rayudu is in the form of his life with the bat. And he fielded well in the Ipl. So it’s not like we kicked out a couch potato type player. While Raina might be fitter, on current form he is not a better bat than Rayudu is.  

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Anyway Raina is a solid selection. We all know experience counts as we saw when recently when experienced :csk: trashed the opponents on their way to the title

 

Raina will save you 10 runs in the field. Take one tough catch every game which saves you 20 runs and attack from ball one. Not to mention, he is great motivation and always cheering up his teammates. You can't put a value on the latter.

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On 6/17/2018 at 3:34 AM, Cricket_Fan said:

That is exactly what I am saying.Pant's international credentials are still not that great.

And how do you think it will improve. He has played total of 2-3 t20 international do you think that's enough to proof his credential. Had he been played 1 or 2 good inning  it wouldn't have proved anything in terms of international career, as career are build over a time. Anyway its not wc or CT where selectors couldn't have tried any youngsters, if not pant there are few others in line than going back to Raina.

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On 6/17/2018 at 10:18 AM, gambhirfan said:

Can’t wait for cheerleader Shastri to cheerlead for Raina and explain to us how Raina’s experience is so valuable and how you can’t ignore experience.

+ People who are criticizing Raina look themselves in the mirror. :giggle:

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On 6/17/2018 at 4:47 PM, Pollack said:

Did you watch Suresh Raina bat in some of his initial matches in Internationals?

+ Even now, he is saying as if Raina is epitome of technical Masterclass. 

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On 6/17/2018 at 6:28 PM, Cricket_Fan said:

Who said he looked awesome. He did bad.But even that looked better than how Pant did in his outings.

Missing the balls consistently in all important final looks better . Man, just don't put anything to prove your point. You may  or may not be right in your opinion on Pant failure in internation cricket, but relative praise of that Shankar's inning in final is lol worthy.:facepalm:

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25 minutes ago, raki05 said:

And how do you think it will improve. He has played total of 2-3 t20 international do you think that's enough to proof his credential. Had he been played 1 or 2 good inning  it wouldn't have proved anything in terms of international career, as career are build over a time. Anyway its not wc or CT where selectors couldn't have tried any youngsters, if not pant there are few others in line than going back to Raina.

By playing A team tours.That is how the current process is. That is how even Iyer,pandey and Hardik Pandya got into team.Till now he was a failure even in that.

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16 minutes ago, Cricket_Fan said:

By playing A team tours.That is how the current process is. That is how even Iyer,pandey and Hardik Pandya got into team.Till now he was a failure even in that.

He was failure in only one A tours i think. if you are talking about international game, he played few good inning against visiting England and Newzeland side last and this year. But ya he has to perform consistently there in A tours,however this was a great chance to try some new youngster which has been wasted with Raina selection.

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Mohammad Kaif and Yuvraj batted brilliantly in the natwest final in 2002. They are a must in our odi side as they know the conditions well and are experienced players. 

With the way selection decisions are being made, both are in with a chance with the above reasoning from our management.

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