rkt.india 10,832 Report post Posted June 22 http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18701/game/1145661/england-lions-vs-india-a-1st-match-india-a-tour-of-england-2018/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tweaker 7,050 Report post Posted June 22 India A won the toss and elected to bat 1 UrmiSinhaRay reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tweaker 7,050 Report post Posted June 22 Shardul back, Khaleel not playing today 1 Mosher reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S_pace 420 Report post Posted June 22 They are playing 3 spinners. SMH. 1 1 UrmiSinhaRay and Jimmy Cliff reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mosher 14,592 Report post Posted June 22 Any live streams? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted June 22 https://live.derbyshireccc.com/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted June 22 Prithvi Shaw OUT,IND A 27/1 after 4.1 Overs.Shubhman Gill comes to the crease Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mosher 14,592 Report post Posted June 22 Quote https://live.derbyshireccc.com/ Thank you 2 Suhaan and UrmiSinhaRay reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sachinism 1,231 Report post Posted June 22 Damn was looking forward to seeing Shaw bat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sachinism 1,231 Report post Posted June 22 (edited) Much better opposition for India. Should be a good test. Agarwal also gone Edited June 22 by Sachinism Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Switchblade 7,336 Report post Posted June 22 Gill gone as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Switchblade 7,336 Report post Posted June 22 Shreyas Orton and Pant batting together 1 Jimmy Cliff reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Switchblade 7,336 Report post Posted June 22 135-3 in 25 overs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sachinism 1,231 Report post Posted June 22 Iyer and Shankar gone. Serious Q, is Shankar international standard? Will he ever make it as an all-rounder? Or are we just wasting time here. I don't think he has the bowling ability of an all-rounder, and his batting is ok. There are many batsmen who are better picks. 1 The Unrealist reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Switchblade 7,336 Report post Posted June 22 12 minutes ago, Sachinism said: Iyer and Shankar gone. Serious Q, is Shankar international standard? Will he ever make it as an all-rounder? Or are we just wasting time here. I don't think he has the bowling ability of an all-rounder, and his batting is ok. There are many batsmen who are better picks. He is not that good but being best friends with Iyer must have been the reason for him getting selected not only in DD but here as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Switchblade 7,336 Report post Posted June 22 Pant on 55 1 2 Jimmy Cliff, UrmiSinhaRay and beetle reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mosher 14,592 Report post Posted June 22 (edited) Krunal gone too. All rounder Axar in now. Why pick 2 similar type of darters in the team? Should have picked Khaleel/Prasidh instead. Edited June 22 by Mosher 1 UrmiSinhaRay reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rkt.india 10,832 Report post Posted June 22 poor batting, Mayank, Iyer, Gill got starts, none kicked on to make big a score. 1 1 1 Switchblade, The Unrealist and UrmiSinhaRay reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sandeep 7,392 Report post Posted June 22 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Sachinism said: Iyer and Shankar gone. Serious Q, is Shankar international standard? Will he ever make it as an all-rounder? Or are we just wasting time here. I don't think he has the bowling ability of an all-rounder, and his batting is ok. There are many batsmen who are better picks. Serious answer - Don't jump to conclusions and be so quick to write off players. Especially those with potential skill-sets that we don't have too many options of. These games are for player development. Its unrealistic to expect constant success. FWIW I'm not a big believer in Shankar either, especially his trundlery "bowling". But its fair and deserved to give him an extended run at 'A' level. Goddam Rishabh throwing it away now. More disappointed with Krunal's innings too. Poor performance as a unit by India A so far. Each of these guys are hyped prospects who have their own share of backers for national team selection. Won't be harsh to judge them of exhibiting a bit of poor temperament here. "Rahul Sir" is going to ram that particular lesson home today. Edited June 22 by sandeep 1 UrmiSinhaRay reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tweaker 7,050 Report post Posted June 22 Pant gone for 64 India A 181/7 1 2 UrmiSinhaRay, beetle and Jimmy Cliff reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raki05 2,526 Report post Posted June 22 29 minutes ago, Sachinism said: Iyer and Shankar gone. Serious Q, is Shankar international standard? Will he ever make it as an all-rounder? Or are we just wasting time here. I don't think he has the bowling ability of an all-rounder, and his batting is ok. There are many batsmen who are better picks. Some fan was saying other day Shankar bats better than hack Pant. Completely justified his statement today. 1 2 UrmiSinhaRay, Switchblade and Laaloo reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raki05 2,526 Report post Posted June 22 It's better to have both Kishan and Pant than Shankar in playing 11. 1 UrmiSinhaRay reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sachinism 1,231 Report post Posted June 22 9 minutes ago, sandeep said: Serious answer - Don't jump to conclusions and be so quick to write off players. Especially those with potential skill-sets that we don't have too many options of. These games are for player development. Its unrealistic to expect constant success. FWIW I'm not a big believer in Shankar either, especially his trundlery "bowling". But its fair and deserved to give him an extended run at 'A' level. Goddam Rishabh throwing it away now. More disappointed with Krunal's innings too. Poor performance as a unit by India A so far. Each of these guys are hyped prospects who have their own share of backers for national team selection. Won't be harsh to judge them of exhibiting a bit of poor temperament here. "Rahul Sir" is going to ram that particular lesson home today. That's the problem for me. The bowling will never be international standard, so he needs to make that up with some exceptionally good batting. Well, he's shown potential, but has also shown himself to be out of his depth 1 UrmiSinhaRay reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Switchblade 7,336 Report post Posted June 22 Poor batting they were going well but gave it away 1 1 The Unrealist and UrmiSinhaRay reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sandeep 7,392 Report post Posted June 22 That legbefore to Gowtham looked like it was going down leg. I felt Shankar's decision was borderline as well. 1 UrmiSinhaRay reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sandeep 7,392 Report post Posted June 22 6 minutes ago, Sachinism said: That's the problem for me. The bowling will never be international standard, so he needs to make that up with some exceptionally good batting. Well, he's shown potential, but has also shown himself to be out of his depth Player's capability levels are not static, he could improve you know. Not saying that he will, but my point is that Indian team needs to consistently have a slot or 2 booked in A teams for pace-bowling allrounders. I'd rather see young Shankar in the 'A' team ahead of a Binny. If there are other contenders - Nagarkoti etc I'm all for trying them out as well. 1 UrmiSinhaRay reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Switchblade 7,336 Report post Posted June 22 Can they bat till 50 overs and post a decent score? 1 1 UrmiSinhaRay and The Unrealist reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samcric 202 Report post Posted June 22 Seems like a dry surface where ball grips and stops a bit. 250 would have been competitive with 3 spinners for India. 1 UrmiSinhaRay reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UrmiSinhaRay 2,901 Report post Posted June 22 Iyer and Shankar gone. Serious Q, is Shankar international standard? Will he ever make it as an all-rounder? Or are we just wasting time here. I don't think he has the bowling ability of an all-rounder, and his batting is ok. There are many batsmen who are better picks.He is poor man's Hardik Pandya(and that kinda gauge where his career is going)Players like Nagarkoti can turn out to be bettet Fast Bowling all rounders than this Shankar if you invest time behind them.It is a pity that despite having such a big population and large sample base, we still have a fragile team.We have some good bowlers though who keep saving the matchesElse the batsmen are all hit and miss except KohliAnd we will continue to be the Country of Weird Batsmen and Clueless AllRounders even in 2050I know all rounders are useful, but our selectors' morbid obsession with the concept of all rounder will ensure only unfinished hacks get into the team just to checkmark a criteria, to fulfill a formula.Whereas it would have been actually better to get an extra pure bowler or batsman with more superior skill in their respective job for match winning.But we have to run with a bits and pieces player because- formula!Ofcourse the bowlers eventually need to learn to hold a bat-but I do think the all rounder concept is a bit flawed in Indian Applications.Sent from my CPH1609 using Tapatalk 1 1 Switchblade and Sachinism reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Switchblade 7,336 Report post Posted June 22 229-9 1 UrmiSinhaRay reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vvvslaxman 6,963 Report post Posted June 22 This Vijay shankar is useless. Not worth investing in him. 1 2 The Unrealist, cowboysfan and UrmiSinhaRay reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vvvslaxman 6,963 Report post Posted June 22 Watching Brazil vs Costa Rica. 2 The Unrealist and UrmiSinhaRay reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UrmiSinhaRay 2,901 Report post Posted June 22 Watching Brazil vs Costa Rica. Best of Luck to Brazil!I am in Tuitions so can't watchSent from my CPH1609 using Tapatalk 1 Switchblade reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Switchblade 7,336 Report post Posted June 22 232 all out in 46.3 overs very poor batting 1 1 The Unrealist and UrmiSinhaRay reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Switchblade 7,336 Report post Posted June 22 59 minutes ago, rkt.india said: poor batting, Mayank, Iyer, Gill got starts, none kicked on to make big a score. Can they defend 232? 1 UrmiSinhaRay reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UrmiSinhaRay 2,901 Report post Posted June 22 Can they defend 232?God knows.....Sent from my CPH1609 using Tapatalk 1 Switchblade reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UrmiSinhaRay 2,901 Report post Posted June 22 232 all out in 46.3 overs very poor battingOnly Pant was goodSent from my CPH1609 using Tapatalk 2 Switchblade and beetle reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted June 22 ENG A batting started. Can IND A defend 232 ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UrmiSinhaRay 2,901 Report post Posted June 22 ENG A batting started. Can IND A defend 232 ? Bowlers kaun hai?Sent from my CPH1609 using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted June 22 Shardul gets 1st wicket LBW, ENG A 15/1 after 3.4 Overs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UrmiSinhaRay 2,901 Report post Posted June 22 Well, I feel India A will win this series but that necessary mean the players are top class.Sent from my CPH1609 using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
putrevus 2,879 Report post Posted June 22 Why are those fast bowlers from under 19 not touring here, what is point in sending trundlers like Chahal and thakur who is selecting these squads. 1 UrmiSinhaRay reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sandeep 7,392 Report post Posted June 22 14 minutes ago, putrevus said: Why are those fast bowlers from under 19 not touring here, what is point in sending trundlers like Chahal and thakur who is selecting these squads. Injured... 1 UrmiSinhaRay reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sandeep 7,392 Report post Posted June 22 232 in an ODI is almost undefendable. Especially in England in 2018. Its like scoring 110 in a T20 - a collapse and some luck can help you defend once in a blue moon, but 9 times out of 10, you're going to lose. 1 UrmiSinhaRay reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
putrevus 2,879 Report post Posted June 22 2 minutes ago, sandeep said: Injured... Didn't that guy Shivam play IPL, if he is not touring here when will he learn. 1 1 UrmiSinhaRay and The Unrealist reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sandeep 7,392 Report post Posted June 22 2 hours ago, UrmiSinhaRay said: He is poor man's Hardik Pandya(and that kinda gauge where his career is going) Players like Nagarkoti can turn out to be bettet Fast Bowling all rounders than this Shankar if you invest time behind them. It is a pity that despite having such a big population and large sample base, we still have a fragile team. We have some good bowlers though who keep saving the matches Else the batsmen are all hit and miss except Kohli And we will continue to be the Country of Weird Batsmen and Clueless AllRounders even in 2050 I know all rounders are useful, but our selectors' morbid obsession with the concept of all rounder will ensure only unfinished hacks get into the team just to checkmark a criteria, to fulfill a formula. Whereas it would have been actually better to get an extra pure bowler or batsman with more superior skill in their respective job for match winning. But we have to run with a bits and pieces player because- formula! Ofcourse the bowlers eventually need to learn to hold a bat-but I do think the all rounder concept is a bit flawed in Indian Applications. Sent from my CPH1609 using Tapatalk Cricket is evolving. And teams need to play at least 2 if not 3 multi-tool players in the XI - you can't afford to have a wicket-keeper who doesn't contribute with the bat at a useful SR. Same way, you can't afford to have a team consisting purely of specialist batsmen and bowlers. And quality allrounders aren't going to magically drop out of the sky. If the selectors consistently reserve slots in A teams, domestic teams for players of that skill-set, more and more players will work on sharpening their secondary skill to try and get that slot. Eventually, after a period of time, you're going to start seeing some quality emerge. Its the same reason why England and Australia struggle to produce native spinners - their FC system has zero incentives for domestic teams to select and groom spinners - so they have to settle for the likes of Zampa, Moeen Ali etc. Unless the system creates a pipeline with incentives and consistent selection of a type of player, you cannot expect to magically find "talent". Modern day professional sports don't work that way. "Talent" has to be polished and produced. So its good to see the mediocre likes of Rishi Dhawan, Stuart Binny, Vijay Shankar etc given opportunities. Eventually sifting through the hordes of Binnys and Laxmi Ratan Shuklas, will yield the odd Hardik Pandya, or maybe, even the next Kapil Dev. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sandeep 7,392 Report post Posted June 22 22 minutes ago, putrevus said: Didn't that guy Shivam play IPL, if he is not touring here when will he learn. AFAIK he ended the IPL injured, no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
putrevus 2,879 Report post Posted June 22 (edited) 3 minutes ago, sandeep said: AFAIK he ended the IPL injured, no? no he played KKR's last match too, these tours are meant for youngsters to learn and Mavi is perfect candidate with a huge upside than these Thakurs and Chahars. Edited June 22 by putrevus 1 UrmiSinhaRay reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
putrevus 2,879 Report post Posted June 22 Get rid off Shankar already, I have no idea why this guy is being selected, he has no business of being near any Indian team. 1 UrmiSinhaRay reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UrmiSinhaRay 2,901 Report post Posted June 22 no he played KKR's last match too, these tours are meant for youngsters to learn and Mavi is perfect candidate with a huge upside than these Thakurs and Chahars. Chahar toh Thik hai but Thakur no no.Sent from my CPH1609 using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
