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7 hours ago, Muloghonto said:

Traditions 'asmaan se tapak ke nahi ayi'...traditions are invented....Social systems are ultimately driven by necessities and technologies at hand, nothing more. In the last 500 years, the rate of evolution of technology has been greater than the previous 100,000 years put together. Hence 'traditions' cannot keep pace with rate of technological evolution and are dying out. 


Our traditions all stem from farming culture. Go tell a nomadic culture like the Mongols that women cannot hunt or ride a horse and should stay inside their tents only, they will laugh at you as a moron. Because their traditions are not due to farming culture's evolution.

 

Traditions are there to serve a purpose - to lubricate the social system that has arisen. But once technology makes a certain social system redundant, its time to chuck that tradition in the dustbin- just like our ancestors chucked the traditions of hunter-gatherer ancestors of theirs in the dustbin when they adopted farming, so too should we as we are leaving that world behind.

 

Agree in principle. At cost of over simplification women evolved as stay at camp linguist  gatherers and men as often traveling in groups hunters with better spatial sense, right from Stone age. This has influence in many relative strengths and weaknesses of both the genders when every other factor is constant.

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On 6/28/2018 at 12:27 PM, beetle said:

In a mostly heterosexual society..

It takes a man and a woman to stray.

It always did .

 

It is naive to say adultery and the other socially unacceptable vices did not occur earlier.It has been happening forever.

These days with a phone and a camera in every hand, it is just more easier to get caught.

 

Besides ...when men and women work together, there are more chances of people straying.

That being said, if you look at the papers, there are more housewives involved in adultery cases that come in the news because of the violent ends.

But how is adultery a social problem of national scale  it is a personal financial issue with judicial process well outlined for redressal. Rape female foeticide on the other hand is endemic in India.. 

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9 minutes ago, Vilander said:

But how is adultery a social problem of national scale  it is a personal financial issue with judicial process well outlined for redressal. Rape female foeticide on the other hand is endemic in India.. 

It is not .

The comment was in response to the poster 's comment that adultery is on the rise in both men and women.( suggesting women have joined the game equally now)

 

That was a moot point because in a mostly heterosexual population, it always takes a man and a woman to stray.So unless we were a very 'gay' society earlier....adultery rates were same for women and men.

This....if you consider getting involved with a married person as adultery too. 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, beetle said:

It is not .

The comment was in response to the poster 's comment that adultery is on the rise in both men and women.( suggesting women have joined the game equally now)

 

That was a moot point because in a mostly heterosexual population, it always takes a man and a woman to stray.So unless we were a very 'gay' society earlier....adultery rates were same for women and men.

This....if you consider getting involved with a married person as adultery too. 

 

 

It was concubines earlier now adultery since avenues are lesser. 

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20 hours ago, Muloghonto said:

However, in the 'working family' model in India, India is at the toxic '1980s western world' stage, where I have also rarely seen a working Indian household that treats the wife as a normal human being, instead of Wonder-woman. Many 'progressive Indian couples' who come to the west, i've seen has the guy still thinking along patriarchial lines of 'mans work vs womans work' and refuse to do household chores beyond the bare minimum.

So the wife now is in charge of making lunches and sending kids to school, then go to work, then come home and cook, clean and put children to bed. Because 'its wife's duty to cook, wife's duty to clean, wife's duty to deal with children' mentality amongst us Indian guys.

For Indian family to survive in the modern world without having western levels of divorce, its critical for the woman to realize that holding a job is a good thing for the marriage (not financially but emotionally) and for the man to realize that splitting chores 50-50 is good for the marriage.

 

Disagree.  Women do and will choose to spend more time with children than man. That's the statistics. There is absolutely nothing wrong in being a housewife similarly as nothing wrong in a wife doing a full-time job.

 

The problem is when you make one as inferior and other as superior. That's the trend nowadays where some people want to dictate how women should make their decisions and how they are oppressed if they do otherwise.

 

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20 hours ago, Muloghonto said:

People here are confusing lack of rights with safety. 

Take Saudi vs India - ofcourse women have far less rights in Saudi than in India. However, safety is about unexpected violence - women are far less likely to be randomly raped and dumped in a nullah in Saudi Arabia than in India. A country can have far more rights than another, but be less safe than its counterpart at the same time. 

 

Well, many Western countries are worst  than us, as they have higher crime rates. We have take the population into consideration. So it's wrong to single out our country only.

 

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11 hours ago, someone said:

Well, many Western countries are worst  than us, as they have higher crime rates. We have take the population into consideration. So it's wrong to single out our country only.

 

Lol ok just do a google search and you will see how safe India is for women and kids, every day there is at least one rape case and worst against kids as well, but Indians will continue to shift the blame.

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2 hours ago, Hydra said:

Lol ok just do a google search and you will see how safe India is for women and kids, every day there is at least one rape case and worst against kids as well, but Indians will continue to shift the blame.

I wrote this earlier here, of course there are problems but,

 

We aren't the most unsafe nation, and that has to be dispelled vigorously. Next, just like India is a poor place, India is unsafe for women maybe correct. But we don't get anything if we take this image of our country to the world. We must defeat this mindset, and perception. Also,  there are many Western countries with higher crime rates against women, so we have to the the population into consideration.

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1 hour ago, someone said:

I wrote this earlier here, of course there are problems but,

 

We aren't the most unsafe nation, and that has to be dispelled vigorously. Next, just like India is a poor place, India is unsafe for women maybe correct. But we don't get anything if we take this image of our country to the world. We must defeat this mindset, and perception. Also,  there are many Western countries with higher crime rates against women, so we have to the the population into consideration.

Sorry but that's just an excuse, I understand India has a large population but you can't hide forever under that excuse.

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Lol ok just do a google search and you will see how safe India is for women and kids, every day there is at least one rape case and worst against kids as well, but Indians will continue to shift the blame.
India is not safe for women- Fact. We at least took the right step to recognize that's a problem.

India is the most dangerous country for women - No one has that kind of data to back that up.

I can google for many countries and find such news on daily basis. I am sure there are many countries who will not even bother to report such news and worse still such cases go unreported too. In short, no one has the data to back up that claim.

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On 7/6/2018 at 8:22 AM, someone said:

Disagree.  Women do and will choose to spend more time with children than man. That's the statistics. There is absolutely nothing wrong in being a housewife similarly as nothing wrong in a wife doing a full-time job.

Big difference between choosing to spend more time with children and being a housewife. 

 

On 7/6/2018 at 8:22 AM, someone said:

The problem is when you make one as inferior and other as superior. That's the trend nowadays where some people want to dictate how women should make their decisions and how they are oppressed if they do otherwise.

 

This is not nowadays stuff, this is ALWAYS the stuff. This is why Indians, arabs and virtually all the world that sticks to the 'housewife + working husband' model prefer docile and obidient wives. Because it ALWAYS comes down to 'my money, my rules'. Seen it in every single arranged marriage that i got to know the couple well. 

 

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On 7/6/2018 at 8:23 AM, someone said:

Well, many Western countries are worst  than us, as they have higher crime rates. We have take the population into consideration. So it's wrong to single out our country only.

 

Which western country has what crimes higher than India, except homicide in the US ?!?

Remember, rape is a crime that is massively under-reported outside of the west due to social stigma. 

 

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16 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

 

 

Fair enough but our population makes overall numbers look quite shameful. I am surprised that US doesnt get flaked for their abysmal statistics on rape. Here are the total rape numbers based on population.

 

Finland - 1k

Sweden - 6-7k 

Germany - 7-8K

Mexico - 14-15k

India - 23-24k

US - 80+k

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On 7/10/2018 at 7:40 AM, Muloghonto said:

Big difference between choosing to spend more time with children and being a housewife. 

 

This is not nowadays stuff, this is ALWAYS the stuff. This is why Indians, arabs and virtually all the world that sticks to the 'housewife + working husband' model prefer docile and obidient wives. Because it ALWAYS comes down to 'my money, my rules'. Seen it in every single arranged marriage that i got to know the couple well. 

 

Using your logic, men also do not have have a choice, they are told that they have to be the breadwinner of the family. Next, for you to say women are inferior,docile, oppressed if they don't follow your way of living is plain stupid and speaks of elitism. That's an insult to many women.

 

Ultimately, with today's technological advances, we live in time where one can do multiple things. And we see it here, housewife with their own small business at home. That's a good development and what is needed...

 

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Even if under-reported, the sheer difference in per 100000 rate of crime (13 times for US to India) means the laws are not good enough to prevent these crimes in those countries. It should be as a deterrent to prevent crime, rather than retribution. 

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7 hours ago, someone said:

Using your logic, men also do not have have a choice, they are told that they have to be the breadwinner of the family.

Sure. But atleast the men within this outdated arranged-marriage system have far greater power, because they earn all the money. 

As i said, i am yet to find an arranged marriage where the man hasn't used the 'my money, my rules' argument atleast once. This makes it inferior in my eyes as there can be no true equality without financial independence of both parties.

 

7 hours ago, someone said:

Next, for you to say women are inferior,docile, oppressed if they don't follow your way of living is plain stupid and speaks of elitism. That's an insult to many women.

I didnt say women are inferior and docile. I said that is what men who get into arranged marriage look for and the women who are not inferior,docile and oppressed end up either having a very unhappy marriage or set on fire by the inlaws. 

7 hours ago, someone said:

 

Ultimately, with today's technological advances, we live in time where one can do multiple things. And we see it here, housewife with their own small business at home. That's a good development and what is needed...

 

What is needed, is for indian women to join the workforce and for indian men to share the household chores 50-50. 

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On 7/12/2018 at 12:54 AM, Muloghonto said:

Sure. But atleast the men within this outdated arranged-marriage system have far greater power, because they earn all the money. 

As i said, i am yet to find an arranged marriage where the man hasn't used the 'my money, my rules' argument atleast once. This makes it inferior in my eyes as there can be no true equality without financial independence of both parties

Mine.

Never have I heard that.

 

I agree with you post mostly.

In a country like ours....women should always have the ability to earn money .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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@MuloghontoIn my family circle,most working women with good well paying jobs have to depend on parents or in laws  because husbands are not equal partners at home.Pressures of working both at home and outside plus the stressful commute makes life tough.

 

Some times parents/ in laws force their way into the lives of these women and sometimes they are forced to get involved in taking care of grandchildren and home.

These women are financially independent but have very little independence in real life.

I feel that i have a far more independent life even staying at home or working for low paying teaching jobs on and off.

 

True independence will come only when men accept that they need to contribute more than a paycheck when raising a family.

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18 minutes ago, beetle said:

@MuloghontoIn my family circle,most working women with good well paying jobs have to depend on parents or in laws  because husbands are not equal partners at home.Pressures of working both at home and outside plus the stressful commute makes life tough.

 

Some times parents/ in laws force their way into the lives of these women and sometimes they are forced to get involved in taking care of grandchildren and home.

These women are financially independent but have very little independence in real life.

I feel that i have a far more independent life even staying at home or working for low paying teaching jobs on and off.

 

True independence will come only when men accept that they need to contribute more than a paycheck when raising a family.

Behna, 

you are preaching to the choir. In India, most working women have in-laws involved is because the men don't do jack at home. Simple fact is, i realized when i immigrated at 17, is Indian men are not brought up to be anything more than 'paying guests' at home. 

Some adapt to the reality of the west, where you gotta do a crap ton of housework to have a decent place. But in reality, most i've encountered, back at home or here, do nothing to help out at home. They consider 'i change light bulbs when it breaks down, unclog the drain and bring home the $$' as doing their part at home. In truth, its not just the Indians, Arabs are the same way too, so are the Africans. 

It gets worse in the west, because most households need 2 incomes and therefore, the woman now is wonder-woman. Imagine doing what you do, plus a 9-5 job (ie, you are out of house at 8 and returning at 6). And then these guys whine about how their 'love is dying/wife is ignoring them/life is boring' yadda yadda. 

 

True independence works both ways and honestly, in the long term, a marriage sees everything from both sides. 

Both should bring home $$ and both should take care of the home when they are home. If both have a 9-5 job, thats when having in-laws or daycare comes in handy. But in the weekday evenings, both should take part in the whole 'cooking,cleaning, dealing with kids' aspect. 

 

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On 7/12/2018 at 10:19 AM, Muloghonto said:

Behna, 

you are preaching to the choir. In India, most working women have in-laws involved is because the men don't do jack at home. Simple fact is, i realized when i immigrated at 17, is Indian men are not brought up to be anything more than 'paying guests' at home. 

Some adapt to the reality of the west, where you gotta do a crap ton of housework to have a decent place. But in reality, most i've encountered, back at home or here, do nothing to help out at home. They consider 'i change light bulbs when it breaks down, unclog the drain and bring home the $$' as doing their part at home. In

Bhai...I wrote the same thing.:facepalm:

 

True...equality should be both ways.

That is the ideal situation .

But it doesn't happen.

 

1)So the choice is between doing it herself...ie work at home, go out and earn and then come back and work at home again.

 

2)Or get the inlaws ( mostly) or parents involved and that brings a whole host of other stuff into the equation that makes on wonder whether she is independent at all.

 

3)Or Stay at home and take care of home herself and let the guy get the bread home.

 

Personally....I am not a super woman, not do I care to be one.I have limited capability as a human and woman and I want to enjoy my life and make sure husband also enjoys his life.

 

Unless the game is fair, I choose not to play.

 

Many educated women choose to be housewives as the lesser of the two evils. ...because they do not see much improvement in their life as working women who have to do everything at home too or have to deal with living with in laws which is far more difficult. Inspite of this , they rarely have financial control.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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@beetle

Why is option 2) about woman's independence ?! If in-laws are gonna help (or daycare is involved), its nearly equally impacting (and responsibility) of the husband too. 


You are operating from the notion that a kid is primarily a woman's responsibility. Beyond breast-feeding age, it is equally both parent's responsibility. As such, having a friend/in-laws/babysitters/daycare etc. are considerations that both take in equally. 

 

Why would you choose option a) anyways ? 

Option a) is what is wrong with Indian society- the option needs to be quite simply ' we both work outside and for our home'. Its fairly simple and one day Indians will realize it when value of manpower in India rises and we don't have dime-a-dozen Dhonis and such to facilitate the 'paying guest' mentality at home.

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1 hour ago, Muloghonto said:

@beetle

Why is option 2) about woman's independence ?! If in-laws are gonna help (or daycare is involved), its nearly equally impacting (and responsibility) of the husband too. 

Try living with Indian in laws as a bahu...

 

It often means giving up your basic independence.

The  right to decide how to live, what to eat, when to sleep, when to wake up, how to raise your kid , how to talk to your husband , how to spend your vacation, how to spend your leave, when to visit your own parents, how long to visit your parents, when your parents can visit you .....it is too much .

 

I would rather have independence over my life than financial independence .

 

 

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On 7/12/2018 at 12:13 PM, Muloghonto said:

Option a) is what is wrong with Indian society- the option needs to be quite simply ' we both work outside and for our home'. Its fairly simple and one day Indians will realize it when value of manpower in India rises and we don't have dime-a-dozen Dhonis and such to facilitate the 'paying guest' mentality at home.

To me option 1 is also better than option 2.

I see the kind of problems my cousins have staying with inlaws, parents.Even parents are not too happy with that set up.For them it may be workable....not me.

 

 

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18 hours ago, Muloghonto said:

Sure. But atleast the men within this outdated arranged-marriage system have far greater power, because they earn all the money. 

As i said, i am yet to find an arranged marriage where the man hasn't used the 'my money, my rules' argument atleast once. This makes it inferior in my eyes as there can be no true equality without financial independence of both parties.

 

I didnt say women are inferior and docile. I said that is what men who get into arranged marriage look for and the women who are not inferior,docile and oppressed end up either having a very unhappy marriage or set on fire by the inlaws. 

What is needed, is for indian women to join the workforce and for indian men to share the household chores 50-50. 

You have no real argument other that "I haven't seem something, so it doesn't exist". Using words like outdated, inferior, docile, oppressed to describe housewife, is plain dumb from you. On arranged marriages, it has be realized that even the richest of rich does that, so it's all classes. It works well in our country, and nothing inferior about it nor superior for that matter.

 

What is needed, is for woman to have more options, and that's changing. There are housewife who have their small business. With technology, multiple things can be done, and so nobody needs your dictates on how they must live their lives, else they are oppressed.

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50 minutes ago, someone said:

You have no real argument other that "I haven't seem something, so it doesn't exist". Using words like outdated, inferior, docile, oppressed to describe housewife, is plain dumb from you. On arranged marriages, it has be realized that even the richest of rich does that, so it's all classes. It works well in our country, and nothing inferior about it nor superior for that matter.

It *is* inferior as it relies on several presuppositions to make the marriage work. There is a reason why in free societies, arranged marriages are not the norm but love marriages are. 

 

The average Indian housewife *is* oppressed, because in simple economic terms, the person who has zero income, in a non-welfare state, has zero power. So the housewife *is* inferior in power to the husband. That is objective and empiric. 

 

It has worked well for our country, just like it did in the past for the west (or does now for the Arabs) is because of poor, illiterate society, its easy to foster presupposed ideologies about marriage and then force people to stick to it. But the moment people get educated, can think on their own,have the power of choice- be it in career, life path or mate- the model of arranged marriage breaks down and is replaced by mutual consent dating-marriage, ie, love-marriage. 

 

Since India is fast developing, this is why the arranged marriage model is being abandoned by many in India and the growth of love marriage will continue.

50 minutes ago, someone said:

 

What is needed, is for woman to have more options, and that's changing. There are housewife who have their small business. With technology, multiple things can be done, and so nobody needs your dictates on how they must live their lives, else they are oppressed.

You are the one dictating here it seems, where you are hell bent on keeping the woman at home. My point is simple - both husband and wife should earn enough to support themselves and contribute to the family and both should share in ALL the household work. Whether it means the husband is stay-at-home-running-a-business  and wife goes to office 9-5 or husband goes to office 9-5 and wife stays at home running a business, is irrelevant. 

 

Right now, i am a freelance coder with several ongoing contracts- i can work from home, i can work from a beach in Aruba so long as i have internet. Whereas my wife is in management for a multinational firm. So for the past couple of years, its me who is staying at home and doing some of the housework. But this doesn't mean that on some of the days of the week, my wife just comes home, relaxes with a beer and lets me do the running around. When its her turn to cook and clean, she does it. 
And in a couple of years when i get bored of freelancing and get myself an office gig, we will both end up doing pretty much the same stuff on different days (when its my turn or hers). 

 

Sad reality is Indian men simply do not have the work ethic to be as efficient as Europeans or North Americans in running their home and its the Indian men who need to grow the hell up and be more than 'paying guests' at home. 

 

You see this attitude run amok here, where people will make fun of me for doing laundry when its my turn to do so. This is the main thing that needs to change amongst Indian men.

Its not your wife's job to cook, clean and take care of the kids. Its BOTH PARENTS job to do so. High time Indian men started acting that way.

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You are the one dictating here it seems, where you are hell bent on keeping the woman at home. My point is simple - both husband and wife should earn enough to support themselves and contribute to the family and both should share in ALL the household work. Whether it means the husband is stay-at-home-running-a-business  and wife goes to office 9-5 or husband goes to office 9-5 and wife stays at home running a business, is irrelevant. 

 

Right now, i am a freelance coder with several ongoing contracts- i can work from home, i can work from a beach in Aruba so long as i have internet. Whereas my wife is in management for a multinational firm. So for the past couple of years, its me who is staying at home and doing some of the housework. But this doesn't mean that on some of the days of the week, my wife just comes home, relaxes with a beer and lets me do the running around. When its her turn to cook and clean, she does it. 

And in a couple of years when i get bored of freelancing and get myself an office gig, we will both end up doing pretty much the same stuff on different days (when its my turn or hers). 

 

Sad reality is Indian men simply do not have the work ethic to be as efficient as Europeans or North Americans in running their home and its the Indian men who need to grow the hell up and be more than 'paying guests' at home. 

 

You see this attitude run amok here, where people will make fun of me for doing laundry when its my turn to do so. This is the main thing that needs to change amongst Indian men.

 

Its not your wife's job to cook, clean and take care of the kids. Its BOTH PARENTS job to do so. High time Indian men started acting that way.

 

Why are you assuming a woman in an arranged marriage will be a housewife? I honestly don't see any correlation here. Just because a couple had love marriage does not mean that they will stay away from traditional roles either.

 

Also you seem to take great pride in doing household work as a husband but I don't see what's the big deal. It is not as uncommon as you make it sound. My wife does wfh a lot so she gets to do more housework but there was time when she used to do night shifts and I used to cook. I wash clothes too but I don't stand on the washing machine and pose as a proud progressive modern superman either. I have seen many of my relatives, including my dad, and friends do it too. Honestly, it's practical too with increasing nuclear families in India.

 

I know there are many Indian men who would not entertain such a thought but you make it sound like it's an alien concept to Indians.

 

End of the day, it's up to the couple how they want to define their relationship. If both are happy together, I am a nobody to piss over the dynamics of their relationship and say they are wrong.

 

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21 hours ago, Muloghonto said:

It *is* inferior as it relies on several presuppositions to make the marriage work. There is a reason why in free societies, arranged marriages are not the norm but love marriages are. 

 

The average Indian housewife *is* oppressed, because in simple economic terms, the person who has zero income, in a non-welfare state, has zero power. So the housewife *is* inferior in power to the husband. That is objective and empiric. 

 

It has worked well for our country, just like it did in the past for the west (or does now for the Arabs) is because of poor, illiterate society, its easy to foster presupposed ideologies about marriage and then force people to stick to it. But the moment people get educated, can think on their own,have the power of choice- be it in career, life path or mate- the model of arranged marriage breaks down and is replaced by mutual consent dating-marriage, ie, love-marriage. 

 

Since India is fast developing, this is why the arranged marriage model is being abandoned by many in India and the growth of love marriage will continue.

Disagree, disagree. You keep insulting the millions of women by calling them oppressed as housewife. Next, arranged marriages aren't just for the poor, illiterate as you keep saying. There are loads of educated, rich people doing that.  It's not a crime to be a housewife, Arrange marriages , housewifes are here to stay, and there is nothing inferior about it. You call your opinion as superior while making everything else as inferior just doesn't cut in reality.

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3 hours ago, nikred said:

Why are you assuming a woman in an arranged marriage will be a housewife? I honestly don't see any correlation here. Just because a couple had love marriage does not mean that they will stay away from traditional roles either.

Also you seem to take great pride in doing household work as a husband but I don't see what's the big deal. It is not as uncommon as you make it sound. My wife does wfh a lot so she gets to do more housework but there was time when she used to do night shifts and I used to cook. I wash clothes too but I don't stand on the washing machine and pose as a proud progressive modern superman either. I have seen many of my relatives, including my dad, and friends do it too. Honestly, it's practical too with increasing nuclear families in India .I know there are many Indian men who would not entertain such a thought but you make it sound like it's an alien concept to Indians.

 

End of the day, it's up to the couple how they want to define their relationship. If both are happy together, I am a nobody to piss over the dynamics of their relationship and say they are wrong.

Exactly.  Case closed.

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For people living in far off fantasia, India is full of arranged marriages with housewives taking care of kids and elders, while men are sitting on their asses and doing 9-to-5vers! The only solution is to opt for love marriages, throw in-laws out to old age homes and for men to wash clothes and cook food on YT recipes! Arranged marriages where people are looking for career woman is a norm now. Multiple income in middle-class is needed to combat poverty, inflation and rising costs. If it only women doing both working out and in the homes. there will be serious issues in all homes. People maintain equilibrium somehow or end up in divorces as well. Men cannot sit on their behinds nowadays!

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If you're living in the west living with just wife and kids, and working from home, then it is quite normal to be helping around the house i.e taking kids to school, running errands, and doing housework. In many cases, if you're working from home, then it even becomes necessary to do a lot of the chores i.e babysitting, cleaning, cooking, etc.  It's a lot easier once you're kids a bit grown up around 6+.   People here doing laundry make it out as if they're washing clothes with their hands.  90% of the work is done by the washing machine and even for drying toss them in.  Living alone with just wife and kids without parents/in-laws makes it a lot easier and your roles a lot clearer.  Otherwise, it can complicate things a bit especially mothers tend to pamper their sons by running behind them lol.

 

edit: there's even rice makers for noobs, and even roti makers. tons of gadgets to make cooking a lot easier

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33 minutes ago, PBN said:

Back to topic, in India men,guys have this horrible habit of gawking at girls.  It's terrible....like you haven't seen a female before.

Not limited to India men. I have spotted  gawkers in Paris (French), Rome (Italians), Mexico. Don't be a IndoPhobe!

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3 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

For people living in far off fantasia, India is full of arranged marriages with housewives taking care of kids and elders, while men are sitting on their asses and doing 9-to-5vers! The only solution is to opt for love marriages, throw in-laws out to old age homes and for men to wash clothes and cook food on YT recipes! Arranged marriages where people are looking for career woman is a norm now. Multiple income in middle-class is needed to combat poverty, inflation and rising costs. If it only women doing both working out and in the homes. there will be serious issues in all homes. People maintain equilibrium somehow or end up in divorces as well. Men cannot sit on their behinds nowadays!

Throw in laws out , Most parents in big cities own some property , its time to move out , in other words say good bye to posh home and rent some house in poor locality.

 

Later on your parents may donate the property instead of giving to children , at that don't cry

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On 7/12/2018 at 8:59 PM, Muloghonto said:

Sad reality is Indian men simply do not have the work ethic to be as efficient as Europeans or North Americans in running their home and its the Indian men who need to grow the hell up and be more than 'paying guests' at home. 

You have no idea how much Indian men work , Unlike west most are in self employment or unorganised sector jobs.If you are running restaurent or big shop .you have to work 10 -12 hours 7 days a week .you have no time to contribute for household chores.

 

Human lifes are dictated by their economic conditions and not dictated by fantasies of people living in full of resources extremely developed nations.

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On 7/7/2018 at 12:18 PM, Hydra said:

Sorry but that's just an excuse, I understand India has a large population but you can't hide forever under that excuse.

Why your country is so poor? It is not even in top 10 biggest economies , Look at China at 2nd and India at 6th

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6 hours ago, Singh bling said:

Why your country is so poor? It is not even in top 10 biggest economies , Look at China at 2nd and India at 6th

My country is doing ok considering its population is only 24 million, but why divert from the topic? Why is your country so unsafe for women?

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My country is doing ok considering its population is only 24 million, but why divert from the topic? Why is your country so unsafe for women?
Isn't your population around 200 million?

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2 hours ago, Hydra said:

My country is doing ok considering its population is only 24 million, but why divert from the topic? Why is your country so unsafe for women?

This is what I want to tell.24 million Australia doing very good but still not in biggest economies.just like income is measured in per capita , crime is measured in 100k population

With increase in population their is increase in crime.If you divide india in 100 nations , you will probably not hear 1 rape everyday but that does not mean crime has vanished

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12 hours ago, PBN said:

Back to topic, in India men,guys have this horrible habit of gawking at girls.  It's terrible....like you haven't seen a female before.

That's because they are straight.

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This is what I want to tell.24 million Australia doing very good but still not in biggest economies.just like income is measured in per capita , crime is measured in 100k population
With increase in population their is increase in crime.If you divide india in 100 nations , you will probably not hear 1 rape everyday but that does not mean crime has vanished
Aha...I see now what you did there.

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On 7/10/2018 at 10:51 AM, coffee_rules said:

 

 

Is it based on reporting? If so, "reporting" can be an issue in countries like India where many keep quiet due to negative social impact 

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