eternalhope Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 http://www.rediff.com/news/interview/nda-has-misused-its-mandate-they-arent-bothered-about-peoples-problems/20180627.htm I thought he did not go over the top but stated his position and assessed the current political situation objectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 CBN has some political agenda losing out his political capital even in AP is now bankrupt. He has lost credibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moochad Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Is CBN favorite for next AP election or is someone else favored? What is the mood in AP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalhope Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 It will be between TDP and YSRCP. Right now TDP is a clear favorite. TDP has walked out of the NDA and even YSRCP does not want to give even a small indication that it has anything to do with the BJP as that will suicidal to them or anyone even seemingly cosying with them. The mood is so anti-center so BJP is trying to prop others hoping it will eat away the votes of TDP to favor the YSRCP hoping that they can be controlled, but they don't get it that their tactics in the northern states do not work in the South. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalhope Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 One other request is please read the content of the article than just the title of it and start wasting space and time blurting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dial_100 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Quote Continuous hand-holding of people at the lower rungs of society is essential for inclusive growth in a country like India, which has all kinds of inequalities in terms of caste, region, education, between drylands and irrigated lands, and so forth. Earlier, I thought the fruits of development will reach everyone by a trickle-down effect. I was wrong. These inequalities will have to be addressed and balanced through active interventions to empower every person. There were many reasons why I lost the election (as incumbent CM) in 2004. One reason is that I did not do proper balancing of welfare, development and reform goals. Excerpts from the article. welfare, welfare, welfare.... all the time. so whoever CBN trying to friends with, did exactly same thing for long 70 years. Welfare. For us to do welfare with such a huge population, our economic growth will be halted. Overall economy can bring up poor people above poverty in a sustainable way. For benefits to trickle down to lower classes will take some time but it surely will reach them. Welfare schemes make people lazy and overly depend on state funding for everything. We all know that welfare in india is certainly an appeasement. PERIOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Lol how he did go over the top everything he says is I did this I did that. This shows he is egocentric. He didn’t even gave credit to vajpayee government. Lot of funds from BJP government helped with infra in hyderabad. Hyderabad is developed but completely ignored agriculture and teachers in his tenure. Major Farmer suicides started in his tenure he did nothing only concentrated on IT and infra in Hyderabad. This is a very narrow vision for a leader. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Whichever party wins in AP, it will join NDA post elections. Mark my words... FischerTal and velu 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 2 hours ago, dial_100 said: Excerpts from the article. welfare, welfare, welfare.... all the time. so whoever CBN trying to friends with, did exactly same thing for long 70 years. Welfare. For us to do welfare with such a huge population, our economic growth will be halted. Overall economy can bring up poor people above poverty in a sustainable way. For benefits to trickle down to lower classes will take some time but it surely will reach them. Welfare schemes make people lazy and overly depend on state funding for everything. We all know that welfare in india is certainly an appeasement. PERIOD. and is a means of corruption through NGOs. Switchblade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dial_100 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 8 hours ago, rkt.india said: and is a means of corruption through NGOs. Obviously, these guys did corruption in whichever ways possible. Modi was Gujarat CM and during that time mostly Cong was at the center. He did amazing job for his state. Now CBN certainly had a friendly government at the center, how did he mess it up so much that he was only left to criticize Modi for everything. Someone doesnt smell good here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, asterix said: Whichever party wins in AP, it will join NDA post elections. Mark my words... I said the same thing in another thread. All this drama from CBN is posturing and if NDA wins in 2019, the turncoat will be back to grab power at the center as well, some ministries! If they don't then he will be in the Third front. Either way, he wins! Edited June 28, 2018 by coffee_rules asterix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 13 hours ago, dial_100 said: Excerpts from the article. welfare, welfare, welfare.... all the time. so whoever CBN trying to friends with, did exactly same thing for long 70 years. Welfare. For us to do welfare with such a huge population, our economic growth will be halted. Overall economy can bring up poor people above poverty in a sustainable way. For benefits to trickle down to lower classes will take some time but it surely will reach them. Welfare schemes make people lazy and overly depend on state funding for everything. We all know that welfare in india is certainly an appeasement. PERIOD. CBN learnt the hard way and so did NDA 1.0 in 2004. You can build a lot of roads, infra & IT parks, the vast majority of India lives in villages and is mostly engaged in unproductive methods of agriculture. Unless there is suitable employment available to them from industrial growth (even that is being threatened by automation & AI), every central and state govt will be required to devote substantial finances towards loan waivers and welfare schemes or risk losing badly. That's just the reality of the economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global.Baba Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 On 6/28/2018 at 12:11 AM, gattaca said: Lol how he did go over the top everything he says is I did this I did that. This shows he is egocentric. He didn’t even gave credit to vajpayee government. Lot of funds from BJP government helped with infra in hyderabad. Hyderabad is developed but completely ignored agriculture and teachers in his tenure. Major Farmer suicides started in his tenure he did nothing only concentrated on IT and infra in Hyderabad. This is a very narrow vision for a leader. Firstly Indians are fed this crap that India's life is in it's villages. That is the biggest piece of bull **** that has ever been said. Great civilizations thrive around urbanization. You talk about fall of Hampi or the fall of Rome etc. due to invasions or political degradation but you never hear drought or fall of villages are the reasons due to which empires have collapsed. Now coming to the debate of Chandra Babu focusing on IT and infra, he was obviously not an original. He stole SM Krishna's model of development. However, having said that,development of IT and infrastructure are not directly proportional to farmers suicides. He needs to get full credit for the development of Hyderabad and for putting the then state of Andhra Pradesh and the city of Hyderabad on the map. Sure,You can criticize him for not focusing enough on the agricultural sector but that is a criticism independent on it's own. Farmer's suicides are happening since time immemorial in our country and that is happening in every state.Urbanization is not the culprit in fact it is far from it. A developing society needs urbanization. The more the cities prosper,the more a country advances. As far as farmers suicides go, the failure of a farmer is not so much different from a failure of a business man, movie actor, sportsperson or any other professional . I don't know why farmers in our country expect handouts to begin with. No other profession gets such handouts. If you have an agricultural land and you are not able to get enough produce,you can always sell it at a good price to someone who can afford to invest in the technology to provide good produce. Isn't that the way it works in every other sector? Now This purchase and sale of agricultural land obviously needs to be regulated by the government and that is where the government-farmer relationship needs to begin and end. Jai Jawan a 100% agreed, Jai Kisaan not anymore. We need to move forward. This is not the Indus valley civilization. There are no agrarian societies in the world anymore unless you consider the Amish as one but they are self sufficient and not dependent on any government. The model successful countries adopt is capitalism and then there is the failed model of socialism/communism. I sympathize with any family that has financial problems or when someone is driven to the verge of suicide due to financial pressures but giving handouts is not the solution. Making these farmer suicides as a political issue needs to stop. Giving handouts doesn't help. If a farmer's debt gets written off, if he cannot invest in technology or can't keep up he will fall back into the same vicious circle. There are plenty of investments and the right technology that is available to invest in the agriculture sector. Wouldn't that make the country more self sufficient? Anyway coming back to the topic, Chandra Babu is a casteist politician from what I have heard from my Andhra friends. Obviously corruption and Indian politician are synonymous. Now he is becoming a dynast by introducing his useless son. There are plenty of reasons to dislike or criticize Chandrababu Naidu but his urbanization efforts of Hyderabad isn't one. He needs to be lauded for it. I am not sure neither agricultural development nor urbanization is happening in Telangana even though they have had a ready made product,but you can correct me if I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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