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Why are un-established HasBeens getting chances ahead of young batsmen?

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Kohli: $$$$ - Has been don't pose any threat to your endorsements deals, and your Kaptaan position in the team. 

Shahstri: $$$$ - You keep Brat happy and you get your whiskey and ladies . (7 Crores)

Selectors: Bichara MSK Prasad wants to make everyone happy. That guy needs to grow some.... 

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I don't mind Raina or DK or Pandey, they can all compete for a spot in the ODI side, I guess, but what else can Rahul do to get in the playing XI? 

 

The guy deserves a run at #4 for at least a series or two to see if he is the real deal. If he fails in those, by all means drop him, but right now it's hard to make heads or tails of his continued bench-warming.

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10 hours ago, SecondSlip said:

Are the likes of Jadhav, Karthik, Raina & Rayudu seriously the best we have in the domestic circuit? Why not give chances to promising youngsters instead of wasting it on these oldies who have short shelf lives? 

A good question! The same question came into my mind  as well.You have to feel sorry for the likes of Shaw,Gill,Pant,Kishen and others I am afraid the way its going we might be exiting early in the next years World Cup with the old washed up has beens in the squad.

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I don't mind Raina or DK or Pandey, they can all compete for a spot in the ODI side, I guess, but what else can Rahul do to get in the playing XI? 
 
The guy deserves a run at #4 for at least a series or two to see if he is the real deal. If he fails in those, by all means drop him, but right now it's hard to make heads or tails of his continued bench-warming.

What KL could do is to keep his mouth shut and not to joke, mock about or rile egoistic captain like Kohli... That’s the minimum requirement. If he can’t do that then he or anybody else should complain...

BCCI is still the exquisite club where connections & recommendations only work.

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55 minutes ago, The Unrealist said:

A good question! The same question came into my mind  as well.You have to feel sorry for the likes of Shaw,Gill,Pant,Kishen and others I am afraid the way its going we might be exiting early in the next years World Cup with the old washed up has beens in the squad.

thats why lets hope rohit become captains after this Wc, he gave good signs in nidhas and with MI 

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33 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

thats why lets hope rohit become captains after this Wc, he gave good signs in nidhas and with MI 

Virat will be leading India for sure and no point in Sharma being the captain as he would be 35 by then and he is not consistent.I agree he was good during the Nidihas trophy or the decider against South Africa but they should groom some one else for the captaincy.

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Virat will be leading India for sure and no point in Sharma being the captain as he would be 35 by then and he is not consistent.I agree he was good during the Nidihas trophy or the decider against South Africa but they should groom some one else for the captaincy.
Rohit should have been given LoI captaincy after Dhoni retired.


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Just now, UrmiSinhaRay said:

Rohit should have been given LoI captaincy after Dhoni retired.


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Problem is he was not doing well its only whenl Dhoni promoted him as an opener he started doing well.But he goes missing when the pressure is on and Virat Kohli was doing well but we were not aware that he would turn out to be such a defensive,meek and a timid captain.

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46 minutes ago, asterix said:


What KL could do is to keep his mouth shut and not to joke, mock about or rile egoistic captain like Kohli... That’s the minimum requirement. If he can’t do that then he or anybody else should complain...

BCCI is still the exquisite club where connections & recommendations only work.

:laugh: All the PR stuff for Kohli he did resulted for him getting benched and being reserved as a back up option for the tour.

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Just now, raki05 said:

What good sign he sent Shankar before Karthik in all imp final.

He wanted Dinesh to handle their experienced bowlers so he promoted Shankar.He also mentioned that Dinesh was very angry at him as he wanted to bat at 4 or 5 in that what the duck show or something like that.

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31 minutes ago, The Unrealist said:

Virat will be leading India for sure and no point in Sharma being the captain as he would be 35 by then and he is not consistent.I agree he was good during the Nidihas trophy or the decider against South Africa but they should groom some one else for the captaincy.

their is no other contendor right now 

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3 minutes ago, The Unrealist said:

He wanted Dinesh to handle their experienced bowlers so he promoted Shankar.He also mentioned that Dinesh was very angry at him as he wanted to bat at 4 or 5 in that what the duck show or something like that.

But that was T20 not odi where everyone can get chance....moreover Shankar came at crucial juncture and almost lost the match singlehandedly ,I think that was a wrong decision and could have cost us the final.

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1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

he promoted pant at 3

about dk- u send exp players in tough situations

 

Many youngsters have done well under him in MI then under kohli in RCB

 

IPL the whole tournament personally I take it with a pinch of salt don't find it to be genuine.But yes for India Sharma as captain has done well but there is no point of 35 year old with his fat belly leading the side in 2023 WC.

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2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

he promoted pant at 3

about dk- u send exp players in tough situations

 

Many youngsters have done well under him in MI then under kohli in RCB

 

Why make situation tough at the first place?

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1 minute ago, raki05 said:

But that was T20 not odi where everyone can get chance....moreover Shankar came at crucial juncture and almost lost the match singlehandedly ,I think that was a wrong decision and could have cost us the final.

He said that after the match was won Dinesh thanked him and said sorry to him.

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1 minute ago, The Unrealist said:

IPL the whole tournament personally I take it with a pinch of salt don't find it to be genuine.But yes for India Sharma as captain has done well but there is no point of 35 year old with his fat belly leading the side in 2023 WC.

whats the point of having kohli n ruining many good career

 

1 minute ago, The Unrealist said:

They should groom one then.

their shud be an option 1st

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What good sign he sent Shankar before Karthik in all imp final.
Kartik's good performance salvaged Rohit Sharma's captaincy career- and even in other matches he captained, it was mostly the lack factor and other players' effort .
But he is regarded as a better captain over Kohli because he was 3 IPLs+ knows how to keep the credit to himself.

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IPL the whole tournament personally I take it with a pinch of salt don't find it to be genuine.But yes for India Sharma as captain has done well but there is no point of 35 year old with his fat belly leading the side in 2023 WC.
Sharma is incredibly lucky in that matches have been won under his captaincy and has successfully managed to keep credit away from Dhoni's nose.
Nah, 2023 Wc Will likely be lead by Virat and by that time, I can actually see Rohit flopping out of the team.

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They should groom one then.
I feel Shreyas Iyer is being groomed as a captain given his stints as DD captain, India B captain in some domestic trophy and India A captain in the Latest A tour.
But the thing is he is also more or less similar to Kohli in the fact he has good players in his team who wins matches for him-not because he is a good decision maker or atleast Can fake being one.
BCCI is always choosing the wrong players for captaincy
Virat never learnt the art of captaincy even after being a captain from the time he started playing cricket.

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Root of the problem is the sub-standard A tours that we keep going to and play on the flattest of pitches there. Likes of Pandey feast on those while Raina plays in even sub standard domestic matches... For a player of his calibre it is easy to do while in international cricket every good team has  145+ pace bowlers.

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4 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

i doubt , rohit looks a strong character as captain n hopefully we have a new coach to. 

Instead of Rohit someone new should be groomed for the leadership as I said.There is no point of having a 35 year old leading the side during 2023 World Cup and I hope they get a coach like Arthur who is a no nonsense guy rather than having a yes man as a coach like Ravi who has no coaching credentials.I personally feel Virat like Dhoni will be leading the side for 7-8 years.The strong character Rohit goes missing against the likes of Amir or other genuine quicks who can swing the ball he is unreliable.

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1 hour ago, Vk1 said:

Root of the problem is the sub-standard A tours that we keep going to and play on the flattest of pitches there. Likes of Pandey feast on those while Raina plays in even sub standard domestic matches... For a player of his calibre it is easy to do while in international cricket every good team has  145+ pace bowlers.

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Instead of Rohit someone new should be groomed for the leadership as I said.There is no point of having a 35 year old leading the side during 2023 World Cup and I hope they get a coach like Arthur who is a no nonsense guy rather than having a yes man as a coach like Ravi who has no coaching credentials.I personally feel Virat like Dhoni will be leading the side for 7-8 years.The strong character Rohit goes missing against the likes of Amir or other genuine quicks who can swing the ball he is unreliable.


Nah, the conspiring dudes and ego ki dukaans at BCCI and Indian Cricket Team won't like Real coaches like Arthur,Moody, Henson etc .
They actually don't want to win any tourneys also- they are happy winning useless bilaterals and making money from endorsements.

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Just now, UrmiSinhaRay said:


 

 


Nah, the conspiring dudes and ego ki dukaans at BCCI and Indian Cricket Team won't like Real coaches like Arthur,Moody, Henson etc .
They actually don't want to win any tourneys also- they are happy winning useless bilaterals and making money from endorsements.

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Totally agree on this point.The disappointing part is that teams like Pakistan Australia England and few others are trying out youngsters but on the other hand we have the likes of Rahane,Jhadav,Raina,Rayudu waiting in the wings :facepalm:.

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4 hours ago, UrmiSinhaRay said:

Kartik's good performance salvaged Rohit Sharma's captaincy career- and even in other matches he captained, it was mostly the lack factor and other players' effort .
But he is regarded as a better captain over Kohli because he was 3 IPLs+ knows how to keep the credit to himself.

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But in general, Do you not see that Rohit being alert, involved and makes good choices on field. IMO, his bowling changes are almost always spot on. 

 

Agreed that in Nidahas trophy, it was a mistake and it took KKD's amazing knock to pull us out. 

Even then, a good captain not only comes with shrewdness in the field but some kind of luck factor too. Remember, MSD's first stint as captain when he had Joginder Sharma bowling last over. One more good shot by Misbah and it is trophy to Pakistan. But MSD got lot of credit for how he lead the young team for a successful WT20 trophy. So, luck is an integral part of being a captain. It is called "Midas touch" by some others. 

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5 minutes ago, sarcastic said:

But in general, Do you not see that Rohit being alert, involved and makes good choices on field. IMO, his bowling changes are almost always spot on. 

 

Agreed that in Nidahas trophy, it was a mistake and it took KKD's amazing knock to pull us out.

actually. even DK final onslaught. Shankar almost hit a four and followed up with a hit but got caught, agreed shankar struggled and made it closer / impossible - but it can not be pinned to the Rohits decision to send in a rookie ahead of an experienced player - his thought process was to save some measured head for a hind end - going by expectations from nets that rookie Shankar will hit big hit out basically - which he could not do.

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19 minutes ago, The Unrealist said:

Totally agree on this point.The disappointing part is that teams like Pakistan Australia England and few others are trying out youngsters but on the other hand we have the likes of Rahane,Jhadav,Raina,Rayudu waiting in the wings :facepalm:.

yeah so we will see this in coming years - they will get ahead of India in LOI and India will play catch up.

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1 hour ago, UnknownGenius said:

Jadhav, Raina and Ryudu have experience and winning mentality. Just won a big trophy and having that mentality is important

 

kKd has become a solid finisher

 

All are deserved selections

 

Undeserved are the useless hack Pandey and can't play anything except trundles on flat wickets garbage Rohit Sharma

Raina over KLR and KDK is somehow not acceptable though in the playing 11.

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6 hours ago, The Unrealist said:

Instead of Rohit someone new should be groomed for the leadership as I said.There is no point of having a 35 year old leading the side during 2023 World Cup and I hope they get a coach like Arthur who is a no nonsense guy rather than having a yes man as a coach like Ravi who has no coaching credentials.I personally feel Virat like Dhoni will be leading the side for 7-8 years.The strong character Rohit goes missing against the likes of Amir or other genuine quicks who can swing the ball he is unreliable.

kon hai ye someone , merko btao to sahi option

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The team management and selection committee are not learning anything. 

 

They did the same mistake last year as well when they brought back Yuvraj Singh for the Champions Trophy. 

 

Fast forward 1 year and Yuvraj is nowhere to be seen. 

 

Why not give these same chances and opportunities to young batsmen who will play for Team India on a long term basis? 

 

Selecting HasBeens on a regular basis is pulling Indian cricket backwards. 

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16 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

kon hai ye someone , merko btao to sahi option

Do you think Dhoni will be there or Rohit,Raina or Dhawan  will be there for the 2023 tournament as I have said it will be Kohli leading the side.The likes of Iyer,Pant and Gill would be introduced by then unless you want the mentioned guys to play till that year. Dhoni will be 42 by then and Rohit is unreliable his reflexes will be slow with his belly looming large.Home tournament my money is on Virat leading the side.

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18 hours ago, UnknownGenius said:

Jadhav, Raina and Ryudu have experience and winning mentality. Just won a big trophy and having that mentality is important

 

kKd has become a solid finisher

 

All are deserved selections

 

Undeserved are the useless hack Pandey and can't play anything except trundles on flat wickets garbage Rohit Sharma

Rayudu won 3 times in MI as well unless your aim is to big up these players due to CSK.There is more to cricket than IPL or CSK.

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14 minutes ago, The Unrealist said:

Do you think Dhoni will be there or Rohit,Raina or Dhawan  will be there for the 2023 tournament as I have said it will be Kohli leading the side.The likes of Iyer,Pant and Gill would be introduced by then unless you want the mentioned guys to play till that year. Dhoni will be 42 by then and Rohit is unreliable his reflexes will be slow with his belly looming large.Home tournament my money is on Virat leading the side.

I am sure his statue will be kept behind wkt and after each victory credits will be given to him. Keeping *Spot* will be permanently locked with thaliva sculpture so that player ( home/overseas) can garland it after their victory.

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Do you think Dhoni will be there or Rohit,Raina or Dhawan  will be there for the 2023 tournament as I have said it will be Kohli leading the side.The likes of Iyer,Pant and Gill would be introduced by then unless you want the mentioned guys to play till that year. Dhoni will be 42 by then and Rohit is unreliable his reflexes will be slow with his belly looming large.Home tournament my money is on Virat leading the side.


Virat will lead with Rohit, Dhawan and possibly Dhoni playing.
If Dhoni doesn't play then some other wicket-keeper play .
I don't see that guy as Pant TBH due to reasons we all know
I think Iyer will have a permanent spot despite being an average player because he is signed By Bunty.


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2 minutes ago, UrmiSinhaRay said:


 

 


Virat will lead with Rohit, Dhawan and possibly Dhoni playing.
If Dhoni doesn't play then some other wicket-keeper play .
I don't see that guy as Pant TBH due to reasons we all know
I think Iyer will have a permanent spot despite being an average player because he is signed By Bunty.


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I think Shreyas will be there for sure in the middle order the likes of JP Duminy or Ponting have said that he is destined for big things for India.

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4 minutes ago, UrmiSinhaRay said:


 

 


Virat will lead with Rohit, Dhawan and possibly Dhoni playing.
If Dhoni doesn't play then some other wicket-keeper play .
I don't see that guy as Pant TBH due to reasons we all know
I think Iyer will have a permanent spot despite being an average player because he is signed By Bunty.


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Won't happen.

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1 minute ago, UrmiSinhaRay said:

Sab kuchh ho sakta Hai when Thalaiva is involved.
Else he will shadow direct the team selections.

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Didn't knew Dhoni was this strong him being a mafia I don't believe this stuff but its time to move on from him.

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