velu Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 They were found , but seems it will take months for them to come out of this cave. They are trapped 1km below the surface and 2-3kms from the cave entrance. claustrophobic guys nightmare zen, randomGuy and Gollum 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dial_100 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Extremely dangerous. I have been to such cave in a popular discovery tour. My kids, 8 and 11 then, were with me back then. We went about 1 mile deep in in the cave. There were passages that were only 24" wide in some spots. We had to crawl for over 40-50' with very narrow passages. There was a constant water dripping from different sources. There were 40-50' slippery slops where climbing up and down was the most dangerous part of the expedition. If we lose control, one could easily bump against the rocks on the either side. Evacuation is almost impossible unless person is active. It is much harder than sky diving or bungee jumping. Only 40% of our expedition where we were standing up-right and walked. 60% of the time we had to bend and walk or crawl, mostly on our knees. We had all the protective gears. My kids were so thrilled to have completed it few years ago. Gollum, Mariyam, randomGuy and 2 others 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted July 3, 2018 Author Share Posted July 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, dial_100 said: Extremely dangerous. I have been to such cave in a popular discovery tour. My kids, 8 and 11 then, were with me back then. We went about 1 mile deep in in the cave. There were passages that were only 24" wide in some spots. We had to crawl for over 40-50' with very narrow passages. There was a constant water dripping from different sources. There were 40-50' slippery slops where climbing up and down was the most dangerous part of the expedition. If we lose control, one could easily bump against the rocks on the either side. Evacuation is almost impossible unless person is active. It is much harder than sky diving or bungee jumping. Only 40% of our expedition where we were standing up-right and walked. 60% of the time we had to bend and walk or crawl, mostly on our knees. We had all the protective gears. My kids were so thrilled to have completed it few years ago. i would rather stay at home than going for these kind of adventures .. cave diving is not for people having claustrophobia and nyctophobia asterix, randomGuy, Vilander and 5 others 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dial_100 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, velu said: i would rather stay at home than going for these kind of adventures .. cave diving is not for people having claustrophobia and nyctophobia I know velu. My both the kitties do do this on a lazy day as well but some adventures are fun. velu and dial_100 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 They should drill a hole from top and pull them out. velu and dial_100 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Merlyn Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 They should drill a hole from top and pull them out. Poora cave gir jayega Bibi.Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Switchblade and dial_100 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradlater Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 2 hours ago, beetle said: They should drill a hole from top and pull them out. Kya zinda dafnane me ho dial_100 and randomGuy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: Poora cave gir jayega Bibi. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Sambhal ke karna chahiye.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dial_100 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 5 hours ago, beetle said: They should drill a hole from top and pull them out. Actually its not the danger of collapsing the whole top soil but amount of time it will take them to drill a hole. Drilling jobs are not that easy but it could take 2-3 day. The cave we went in also had a 60' drop from a similar hole. In this case, we dont know how long it will take realistically. plus they will have to judge the exact spot where opening should be. it is all complicated. Easier said than done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, dial_100 said: Actually its not the danger of collapsing the whole top soil but amount of time it will take them to drill a hole. Drilling jobs are not that easy but it could take 2-3 day. The cave we went in also had a 60' drop from a similar hole. In this case, we dont know how long it will take realistically. plus they will have to judge the exact spot where opening should be. it is all complicated. Easier said than done. 2-3 days is better than what is posted in velu's first post...he wrote it will take months. That is why I suggested drilling hole. dial_100 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted July 4, 2018 Author Share Posted July 4, 2018 drilling hole on rock takes far longer , its not like borewell dial_100 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dial_100 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 9 hours ago, beetle said: 2-3 days is better than what is posted in velu's first post...he wrote it will take months. That is why I suggested drilling hole. http://www.chevalierdrilling.com/faq.htm The above link says that it can be done in hours or few days. Thats how i guessed 2-3 days. Again, more than actual drilling job, the planning of it and soil study takes weeks. So Velu is not entirely wrong. It is not easy to know where exactly is to be drilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted July 4, 2018 Author Share Posted July 4, 2018 (edited) 59 minutes ago, dial_100 said: http://www.chevalierdrilling.com/faq.htm The above link says that it can be done in hours or few days. Thats how i guessed 2-3 days. Again, more than actual drilling job, the planning of it and soil study takes weeks. So Velu is not entirely wrong. It is not easy to know where exactly is to be drilled. few of my relatives/acquaintances are in borewell business .. normally 500ft borewll can be drilled in 2 days , but sometimes when they encounter rocks they will end up spending days for digging 50/60ft itself .. guess there might be far better and advanced equipments available , but drilling on a mountain/rock will be even more challenging edit:- and where to drill and study will take far more time as you said Edited July 4, 2018 by velu Turning_track and dial_100 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted July 6, 2018 Author Share Posted July 6, 2018 Thailand cave rescue: Ex-navy diver dies on oxygen supply mission https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-44734385 @Stuge Stuge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 really depressing news. Bechare bachche. velu and Stuge 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted July 8, 2018 Author Share Posted July 8, 2018 Four of the boys have been rescued from the Tham Luang caves in Chiang Rai province, with nine people still trapped underground All four boys safely reached a hospital in Chiang Rai, the nearest major city The operation is slated to resume at around 8am local time with officials and volunteers buoyed by the success of their chosen method insofar https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2018/jul/08/thailand-cave-rescue-operation-divers-trapped-boys-live dial_100, Straight Drive, beetle and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuge Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 1 hour ago, velu said: Four of the boys have been rescued from the Tham Luang caves in Chiang Rai province, with nine people still trapped underground All four boys safely reached a hospital in Chiang Rai, the nearest major city The operation is slated to resume at around 8am local time with officials and volunteers buoyed by the success of their chosen method insofar https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2018/jul/08/thailand-cave-rescue-operation-divers-trapped-boys-live Some good news coming in finally . beetle, Straight Drive and velu 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 why couldn't they pump the water out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted July 9, 2018 Author Share Posted July 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: why couldn't they pump the water out? they kept pumping and still going on i guess .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 4 more boys rescued today. Straight Drive 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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