velu Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 (edited) Quote At the end of the war when Pandavas and Krishna Yudhisthira makes him an offer that he may pick any of the Pandava brothers to fight against one-to-one with a weapon of his choice, and that if he defeats that Pandava, Duryodhana shall be deemed the victor of the war. Duryodhana picks his arch enemy Bhima over the other Pandava brothers whom he could have effortlessly overwhelmed with his skill at fighting with the mace, to ensure a fair fight he picks up Bheema. Edited July 4, 2018 by velu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradlater Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Erm he also ordered His younger bigdail brother Dushasan to strip Draupadi forcefully in front of the entire hall and make her sit on his lap. Righteousness my arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollack Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 He was brave but certainly not righteous. No character in Mahabharat is righteous except of course Krishna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted July 4, 2018 Author Share Posted July 4, 2018 21 minutes ago, Stradlater said: Erm he also ordered His younger bigdail brother Dushasan to strip Draupadi forcefully in front of the entire hall and make her sit on his lap. Righteousness my arse. thats revenge .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted July 4, 2018 Author Share Posted July 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, Pollack said: He was brave but certainly not righteous. No character in Mahabharat is righteous except of course Krishna. he did all possible cheating saik and dial_100 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainfade Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Pollack said: He was brave but certainly not righteous. No character in Mahabharat is righteous except of course Krishna. Did you mean Karna (or Karan for the Northies here), and not Krishna? Mahabharat is the perfect story of "Nice guys finish last." saik and velu 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Stradlater said: Erm he also ordered His younger bigdail brother Dushasan to strip Draupadi forcefully in front of the entire hall and make her sit on his lap. Righteousness my arse. The five spineless husbands of draupadi were no better. Bloody namard bhaiya bet the collective wife and the other 4 spineless just sat there. The only righteous one was Karn. He was too good to be involved with all these bad seeds. saik 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 1 hour ago, beetle said: The five spineless husbands of draupadi were no better. Bloody namard bhaiya bet the collective wife and the other 4 spineless just sat there. The only righteous one was Karn. He was too good to be involved with all these bad seeds. Karna called Draupadi vaishya , Just read original. Text He was one of main instigator of Cheerharan , it is neo 21st century version which made him look good O/W there is nothing good in his life. Pollack and adi B 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollack Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 1 hour ago, beetle said: The five spineless husbands of draupadi were no better. Bloody namard bhaiya bet the collective wife and the other 4 spineless just sat there. The only righteous one was Karn. He was too good to be involved with all these bad seeds. Are you kidding me? Karna righteous one? Wont blame you though.Romanticism of karna's righteousness is too much on tv. But a feminist like you should be the last person to admire Karna. If you want to praise someone you should praise Vikarna. He was sulking when Draupadi was insulted while all others including the most respected Bhisma watched shamelessly doing nothing. dial_100, adi B, Shunya and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 15 minutes ago, Pollack said: Are you kidding me? Karna righteous one? Wont blame you though.Romanticism of karna's righteousness is too much on tv. But a feminist like you should be the last person to admire Karna. If you want to praise someone you should praise Vikarna. He was sulking when Draupadi was insulted while all others including the most respected Bhisma watched shamelessly doing nothing. I don't watch tv. I have not heard such bad things about karn....if true, then i guess he was bad seed too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted July 4, 2018 Author Share Posted July 4, 2018 26 minutes ago, Pollack said: Are you kidding me? Karna righteous one? Wont blame you though.Romanticism of karna's righteousness is too much on tv. But a feminist like you should be the last person to admire Karna. If you want to praise someone you should praise Vikarna. He was sulking when Draupadi was insulted while all others including the most respected Bhisma watched shamelessly doing nothing. how about betting their wife ? pandvas treated their wife /wives as object duryodhana took only one wife and trusted her even when her wardrobe was pulled by karna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, velu said: how about betting their wife ? pandvas treated their wife /wives as object duryodhana took only one wife and trusted her even when her wardrobe was pulled by karna According to texts Yudhisthira committed only one sin in Life when he lied about Ashwathama death and he was punished for that as he has to see image of hell O/W his life was perfect .So I guess according to god's law he did nothing wrong or whatever wrong he committed he just paid for that in life as vanvaas velu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted July 4, 2018 Author Share Posted July 4, 2018 11 minutes ago, Singh bling said: According to texts Yudhisthira committed only one sin in Life when he lied about Ashwathama death and he was punished for that as he has to see image of hell O/W his life was perfect .So I guess according to god's law he did nothing wrong or whatever wrong he committed he just paid for that in life as vanvaas for me only thing duryodan did is insulting draupadi out of revenge :( anywya yudistra was knowing the all the goalmal things krisha was doing to win the war and was part of it silently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollack Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 18 minutes ago, velu said: how about betting their wife ? pandvas treated their wife /wives as object duryodhana took only one wife and trusted her even when her wardrobe was pulled by karna Which part of this post did you not understand: No character in Mahabharat is righteous except of course Krishna. Where did I say Pandavas were righteous. They paid for their wrong doings too. Wife getting insulted, vanvas, killing their own brothers including karna etc.. Draupadi was mad at Pandavas too for treating her like an object but forgive them. Even karna couldnt stop admiring her for forgiving even when her husband's brought her great misery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 19 minutes ago, Singh bling said: According to texts Yudhisthira committed only one sin in Life when he lied about Ashwathama death and he was punished for that as he has to see image of hell O/W his life was perfect .So I guess according to god's law he did nothing wrong or whatever wrong he committed he just paid for that in life as vanvaas Even in those days...it was not acceptable to bet their wife . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollack Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 4 hours ago, velu said: he did all possible cheating LOL How about the many treacherous plans hatched by DUryodhan and Shakuni before. Were they fair? Besides, the main reason for war were : 1) For Karavas: To acquire kingdom 2)Pandavas: To take revenge 3)Krishna : Start of a new beginning. New Age. If Krishna wanted he could have avoided all the cheating by being a warrior fighting from pandavas side. He chose to be sarathi instead. Besides Yudhishthir lost while gambling due to cheating which resulted in great insult and eventual war. Shunya and sarcastic 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted July 4, 2018 Author Share Posted July 4, 2018 20 minutes ago, Pollack said: Which part of this post did you not understand: No character in Mahabharat is righteous except of course Krishna. Where did I say Pandavas were righteous. They paid for their wrong doings too. Wife getting insulted, vanvas, killing their own brothers including karna etc.. Draupadi was mad at Pandavas too for treating her like an object but forgive them. Even karna couldnt stop admiring her for forgiving even when her husband's brought her great misery. point is karna and duryodana treated women better than pandavas .. anyway no issues if you agree both groups are at fault here .. but wont agree krishna is righteous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dial_100 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, velu said: point is karna and duryodana treated women better than pandavas .. anyway no issues if you agree both groups are at fault here .. but wont agree krishna is righteous I dont want to discuss on Krishna. I am okay if you want to believe something but as per forum policy we should not bring in the topic that is going to hurt someone's sentiments. By the way, I can definitely discuss this 1 on 1 but not on an open forum. Mariyam and velu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Gandhari should also feature quite high in the list of the righteous ones. She keeps a blindfold to life at an equal level of disability as her husband. And this she does out of her free will. When Duryodhan asks for blessings before the war, her reply is to the tune of " may the righteous side win". randomGuy and dial_100 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Durodhan’s mother Gandhari used some special powers to make Duryodhan’s body capable of taking blows. Only his thighs were vulnerable which Bhim exploited /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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