Alam_dar Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Rape ‘natural pollution’, even Lord Ram cannot stop it: BJP MLAIt was only last month that the BJP leader had landed in soup for comparing government staff to prostitutes and blaming parents and smart phones for the rise in crimes against women. BJP MLA from Bairia district Surendra Narayan Singh on Saturday stoked a controversy after he said that even Lord Ram would not have been able to put an end to the rising rape incidents, news agency ANIreported. “I can say this with full confidence that even Lord Ram will not be able to prevent such instances. This is natural pollution, which has not left anybody untouched,” the legislator said, when asked about rising cases of rape in Uttar Pradesh. Singh added, “It is people’s responsibility to treat others as their family, as their sisters. We can only control it through values, not the Constitution.” Recently, the MLA had also come out in support of another MLA Kuldeep Singh Sengar, who is currently in Sitapur jail in connection with the Unnao rape case. It was only last month that the BJP leader had landed in a soup for comparing government staff to prostitutes and blaming parents and smartphones for the rise in crimes against women. According to ANI, he had said: “Officials se accha charitra vaishyaon ka hota hai, woh paisa lekar kam se kam apna kaam toh karti hain aur stage pe naachti hain. Par yeh officials toh paisa lekar bhi aapka kaam karenge ki nahi, iski koi guarantee hi nahi hai. (Prostitutes are better than officials. They at least do the work worth the money they take and dance on the stage. But these officials take the money, with no guarantee that that they get the work done).“https://indianexpress.com/article/i...a-narayan-singh-rape-lord-ram-remark-5250648/ So, what role has been played by pornography in our societies? Is it positive or negative? Does it in any way help in releasing the frustration? Is it possible to stop it? ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Yeah, watching video/photo or fake news forces someone to commit violence, be it murder/lynching or rape. Let's just never ever blame the criminals. Maybe that's the attitude which leads to no consequences and hence continuity in crime ? UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 (edited) Not really. In fact, it should help people control their thoughts. Edited July 9, 2018 by rkt.india MechEng and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechEng Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 I have watched disturbing real life crime tv shows(crime patrol types) in my childhood, and heinous crimes happened back then too, there was no internet back then in households. Sexual violence has not increased in India or elsewhere, it's the awareness of it which has increased through media gaining power. Coming back to pornography, I'm against it even though I have been guilty of watching soft porn ocassionally in the past. It perverts sexual relationships and corrupts mind and soul. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rageaddict Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 More than pornography I will blame the rampant nudity and vulgarity that is being propagated through Bollywood and Television today. UrmiSinhaRay and Alam_dar 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Bollywood is one of the main reasons... Also, smartphones, Social media & females becoming more open minded about sec etc. In our days it was a taboo to even discuss sec etc with girls in school or colleges... One had to Make efforts to go to the street book sellers to buy Mastram series etc... With night club culture spreading in town and cities, boys get ample opportunities to live their “wet dreams”... Boys being boys, they only think of sex etc.. For Girls sex could be last thing in their minds, focussing more of friendship & enjoying life... by the time they realise in a relationship, it’s too late... As far as Pedophiles are concerned, smartphones and social media has given them easy access to porn etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 good amount of rape cases are fake rape cases filed by women ( its a north Indian phenomenon . but now even women in south started using laws to their advantage ) check In her plea, the complainant had alleged that Mahaakshay had cheated and raped her after being in physical relation with her for around four years on the pretext of marriage. The woman alleged that when she became pregnant, Mahaakshay had given her some medicine which led to an abortion. https://www.hindustantimes.com/bollywood/mithun-chakraborty-s-son-s-wedding-cancelled-after-police-arrives-to-investigate-rape-charges/story-lUbfqgbf4mj4zB54H4GhKJ.html Singh bling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jusarrived Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 The "rape rate" has not increased in India, its just getting reported now. beetle, riya, Stradlater and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradlater Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 On Sun Jul 08 2018 at 2:43 PM, MechEng said: I have watched disturbing real life crime tv shows(crime patrol types) in my childhood, and heinous crimes happened back then too, there was no internet back then in households. Sexual violence has not increased in India or elsewhere, it's the awareness of it which has increased through media gaining power. Coming back to pornography, I'm against it even though I have been guilty of watching soft porn ocassionally in the past. It perverts sexual relationships and corrupts mind and soul. I have been a regular watcher of porn ever since internet became a household thing after the smartphone revolution. So far my mind and soul seems intact. But please tell me more about it's harmful effects on my 'soul'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechEng Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Stradlater said: I have been a regular watcher of porn ever since internet became a household thing after the smartphone revolution. So far my mind and soul seems intact. But please tell me more about it's harmful effects on my 'soul'? It's just my personal experience, if you make it a regular habit then it's very bad. Occasionally it's ok. Edited July 9, 2018 by MechEng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradlater Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, MechEng said: It's just my personal experience, if you make it a regular habit then it's very bad. Occasionally it's ok. I'm a sex deprived lonely man with no one to comfort but internet and it's wonders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechEng Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Stradlater said: I'm a sex deprived lonely man with no one to comfort but internet and it's wonders. Brahmacharya ban ja. Ashtasiddhi mil jayegi. You will then have all the powers of Marvel superheroes combined! Stradlater and asterix 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Brahmacharya ban ja. Ashtasiddhi mil jayegi. You will then have all the powers of Marvel superheroes combined! MechEng 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigg Brother Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 On 7/8/2018 at 4:12 PM, asterix said: Bollywood is one of the main reasons... Also, smartphones, Social media & females becoming more open minded about sec etc. In our days it was a taboo to even discuss sec etc with girls in school or colleges... One had to Make efforts to go to the street book sellers to buy Mastram series etc... With night club culture spreading in town and cities, boys get ample opportunities to live their “wet dreams”... Boys being boys, they only think of sex etc.. For Girls sex could be last thing in their minds, focussing more of friendship & enjoying life... by the time they realise in a relationship, it’s too late... As far as Pedophiles are concerned, smartphones and social media has given them easy access to porn etc. How it is related with increased rape incidence? Care to explain !!! beetle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigg Brother Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 It is highly debatable. There has been may discussions on this. Pornography,Western culture and what not..But at the end of the day it is the Rapist who doesn't have control over his thoughts is sole responsible factor. There is no denying that Addiction of Pornography is catalyst in this.There are many other catalysts,too. Lack of Education specially about Sex,Sex being Taboo,Indian youth's inability to get laid at right age mainly in lower socioeconomic class. Alam_dar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alam_dar Posted July 9, 2018 Author Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bigg Brother said: It is highly debatable. There has been may discussions on this. Pornography,Western culture and what not..But at the end of the day it is the Rapist who doesn't have control over his thoughts is sole responsible factor. There is no denying that Addiction of Pornography is catalyst in this.There are many other catalysts,too. Lack of Education specially about Sex,Sex being Taboo,Indian youth's inability to get laid at right age mainly in lower socioeconomic class. I agree. Edited July 9, 2018 by Alam_dar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dial_100 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I dont think so either. Rapist and pervs are not made from pornography. In fact, pornography industry is thriving because of pervs, the one who cannot fulfill their fantasies in real life. 99% perverts have control over their fantasies. Those who dont are the rapists. rkt.india 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 @Alam_dar Is that thread title your own? If yes, then how do we know that rate has increased? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alam_dar Posted July 10, 2018 Author Share Posted July 10, 2018 14 hours ago, Trichromatic said: @Alam_dar Is that thread title your own? If yes, then how do we know that rate has increased? Yes, the thread title is mine. I also don't know if the rate of rape has increased in India or not. And that is why I myself asked the question in the title: "Does Pornography has a role in increased rape rate in India? If you say that rape rate has not increased in India, it is OK for me as I am myself don't know if it has increased or not or decreased. Actually it was the BJP minister who made this claim (i.e. rape rate has been increased in India due to pornography, and even Lord Ram could not stop it". Since it was little controversial statement by him by bringing Lord Ram in it, while I wanted to avoid it and focus on the real issue of effects of pornography in the society, and therefore I had to give the title in my own words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 28 minutes ago, Alam_dar said: Yes, the thread title is mine. I also don't know if the rate of rape has increased in India or not. And that is why I myself asked the question in the title: "Does Pornography has a role in increased rape rate in India? If you say that rape rate has not increased in India, it is OK for me as I am myself don't know if it has increased or not or decreased. Actually it was the BJP minister who made this claim (i.e. rape rate has been increased in India due to pornography, and even Lord Ram could not stop it". Since it was little controversial statement by him by bringing Lord Ram in it, while I wanted to avoid it and focus on the real issue of effects of pornography in the society, and therefore I had to give the title in my own words. Kanpur: 6-year-olds held for rape bid on 4-year-old girl, sent to remand home According to police, the girl was taken to an empty plot by the four boys and sexually assaulted on June 30 when she was playing outside her house. The cops also suspect that the idea to rape the child would have come to the minors after watching porn clips on a mobile phone. https://www.timesnownews.com/mirror-now/crime/article/kanpur-6-year-olds-held-for-rape-bid-on-4-year-old-girl-sent-to-remand-home/249193 ----- Porn has some effect especially on juveniles Alam_dar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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