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In light of the recent FIFA World Cup, thought of comparing the cricket teams with football teams based upon history/ability/achievements/mindset/resources yada yada.

 

1. West Indies: Brazil

  • Calypso/Samba...free spirited
  • Greatest teams of all time once upon a time but not so successful in the last 20 odd years
  • Greatest players....all time XIs will have max players from their countries
  • Loved by all
  • Immense natural talent which drives them to success without a strong domestic set up
  • Swag/Flair

 

2. Australia: Germany

  • Overall very successful
  • Competitive in every era
  • Very consistent in World Cups
  • Many ATGs (2nd highest)
  • Very organized, disciplined with high precision and scientific approach to the game
  • Ruthless
  • Excellent domestic structure and youth programmes which was/is able to consistently churn out high quality players

 

3. India: Italy

  • Probably in terms of big success behind only Australia (Germany) and WI (Brazil)
  • Punched above its weight and knocked out fancier teams in the past to win big trophies
  • Mediocre for large parts but still a great history with a few top tier ATGs
  • Both are very defensive teams (bowling=attack, batting=defence :p:) with max ATGs in defensive department (India=batsmen, Italy=defenders and GK)
  • For most parts in big tourneys both are mentally tough units, very dogged
  • India often stopped mighty WI('83)/Australia(ATG test streak) just like how Italy stopped many pre tournament favorites like Brazil, France, Germany in the past.
  • Good domestic structure.....Ranji=slightly below par, IPL=best in the world, average it out
  • Both countries are fixing/corruption hubs in their respective sports

 

4. Pakistan: Argentina

  • Chaotic, mercurial, unpredictable
  • Have won the big trophies but not yet as successful as 1-3
  • Individual brilliance, X factor
  • Lack of cohesion, full of controversies and soap operas
  • Achieved success under strong dictatorial leaders
  • Propensity to cheat :two_thumbs_up: with innovations like ball tampering, chucking, Hand of God, fixing...
  • Unapologetic about cheating incidents in the past, they wear it like a badge of honour :yay:
  • Domestic Structure LOL

 

5. England: England

  • Invented the sport but watched other teams excel more
  • Rich history but most greats from bygone era
  • English media
  • Historically the best domestic structure with great prestige, finest of the game have polished their skills in England.....finishing school for many ATGs
  • Boring sides
  • Nostalgia tards
  • Ugly yet effective style of play, tenacious spirit which helped them perform beyond their capabilities

 

6. Sri Lanka: France

  • Won all their trophies post 90s, since then possibly most consistent teams in big events
  • Produced many freakish talents
  • Very successful in a short span
  • At their best as good as any of the other ATG units
  • Tactically top notch
  • Nice fakers, often resort to underhand means

 

7. South Africa: Netherlands

  • Never won a WC in spite of being favorites many times, greatest nations to not win the ultimate prize in their disciplines
  • Exceptional talent, very skilled
  • Cryuff=Kallis...objectively greatest but not rated as GOATs by pundits

 

8. New Zealand: Belgium

  • Punch above weight
  • No standout ATG but many excellent players who gel well
  • Never came close to winning a WC
  • Honest triers
  • Universally liked

 

9. Bangladesh: Some African country (Ghana, Cameroon, Nigeria????)

  • Lots of funds pumped in by governing body
  • 1-2 high quality players surrounded by a bunch of mediocre players
  • Occasionally upset higher ranked teams
  • Too many false dawns
  • Very passionate fanbase
  • Perpetual victim mentality

 

10. Zimbabwe: Turkey

  • Had many good players in 90s, early 2000s
  • Childhood nostalgia for kids who followed global events in late 90s and early 2000s
  • Andy Flower=Hakan Sukur, both ATGs who were overlooked because they didn't play for the big boys, both exiled for their political stance
  • Quite weak now and may have to wait for a few years before they are taken seriously again
  • Zimbabwe/Turkey origin players helped other top tier teams achieve great success eg Flower brothers for England(test no 1)/Pakistan(CT) while Ozil played a big role for Germany in 2014 WC.
  • Political problems, dictators, human rights violations etc spilled over to sports and sullied the image of their national teams.

 

11. Afghanistan: Egypt

  • Countries in turmoil because of terrorism, war, political/social unrest->cricket/football being major outlets for national identity/unity
  • Success a triumph of human spirit in times of great adversity
  • Only in recent times have they made a global splash
  • Rashid Khan (SRH)=Mohammed Salah (Liverpool), both took their famous leagues by storm and achieved great popularity...both proud symbols of their nations, both full of style/panache
  • Talented but very raw, will take time to mature but have serious potential

 

12. Ireland: Iceland

  • Small countries
  • Playing for a long time but only in recent times have they qualified for big events
  • Mostly unknown players but whole greater than sum of parts
  • Both gave England lots of heartburn in the big stage....WC 2011 group game and Euro 2016 sending the inventors of the sport into mourning :phehe:
  • Players who carried them this far are old and close to retirement, worries about future because young talent doesn't look that promising....may face a steep decline that will set them back by a few more years.

    

 

Feel free to add your choices...I don't follow football like I used to as a kid. I may have made some wrong assumptions and got a few observations wrong. But honestly quite difficult to find equivalents which everyone will agree upon :confused:. Pretty sure many ICFers are more knowledgeable in this regard !!!!

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@velu Buffon a 40 year old is captain of Italy and he is their goalkeeper. In India a wicketkeeper was official captain till age 36 and unofficial captain now :yay:...India-Italy is a perfect fit, no wonder INC party workers ordered 400 kg laddus for their ruling party's President after the 2006 WC triumph :band: 

 

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@velu Buffon a 40 year old is captain of Italy and he is their goalkeeper. In India a wicketkeeper was official captain till age 36 and unofficial captain now :yay:...India-Italy is a perfect fit, no wonder INC party workers ordered 400 kg laddus for their ruling party's President after the 2006 WC triumph :band: 

 

 

we need bunga bunga party :phehe:

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Yorkshire= Man Utd 

 

The most successful club in the country hated by everyone else because of it. Actually I'd rather not say we're like a Lancashire football club. We can be Bayern, Real Madrid or Juventus

 

Or alternatively...

 

Liverpool. Used to be dominant but nowadays tend to live on past glories. A few successful years in recent history but few and far between

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West Indies = Liverpool Football Club Their glory days were in 70s and 80s.

Fun Fact: Sir Viv is Liverpool fan. Hopefully, Klopp will bring the glory days back.

South Africa Cricket Team = England Cricket Team Both won only one major tournament.

France Football Team = Hindustan Cricket Team Their glory started in 90s/00s with both winning odd world tournament previously.

Australian Cricket Team = Real Madrid Both always have boss teams.

Pakistan Cricket Team = Italy Football Team Dark horses of their respective Sport who have won majors so you can never ignore them.

 

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18 hours ago, Gollum said:

@velu Buffon a 40 year old is captain of Italy and he is their goalkeeper. In India a wicketkeeper was official captain till age 36 and unofficial captain now :yay:...India-Italy is a perfect fit, no wonder INC party workers ordered 400 kg laddus for their ruling party's President after the 2006 WC triumph :band: 

 

Italy's Buffon retired from internationals last year, will make a comeback as they need some experienced internationals. 

Our Buffoon retired from tests and trying to make a case for comeback by playing tests in ODIs.

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