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Saw Southee in dug out yesterday,why is he not being picked?He needs to straightaway in xi next game 

Also I believe RCB have been let down by Sundar,they overestimated his abilities ,it's anyways not easy to bowl spin at Chinnaswamy but they were expected more out of him

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7 hours ago, sensible-indian said:

Doesn't mean you give 3 to negi and 1 to him.

 

We all know who is likely to save runs. 

Off spin again right handers is easy. He gave negi cause he is left armed, will turn the ball away.

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7 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

As big a fan im of kohli, but i have to say this 

 

agar Corey anderson tumhare last over bowler hai to, Ch...tye captain ho tum

agar umesh(the highly inconsistent one) tumhara eklotta spearhead hai, Ch...tye captain ho tum

Agar siraj tumhara 2nd pacer hai,  Ch...tye captain ho tum

Agar raina aur raydu ko shuru men tum spin ka halwa dete ho,Ch...tye captain ho tum

Agar itne saalon se baar baar auction men jaane ke baad bhi team ki same problem hia , Ch...tye captain ho tum

agar corey anderson ko out of touch hone ke baad bhi tum CDGH ke upar khilate ho , Ch...tye captain ho tum

Dont lie. You are a dhoni fan, not Kohli.

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2 hours ago, SK_IH said:

Saw Southee in dug out yesterday,why is he not being picked?He needs to straightaway in xi next game 

Also I believe RCB have been let down by Sundar,they overestimated his abilities ,it's anyways not easy to bowl spin at Chinnaswamy but they were expected more out of him

Southee is worth a try. Definitely he is a better T20 bowler than Siraj and Corey. Also is more reputed with fielding. Yes, adapting to Indian conditions may take him one or two matches, but overall a much better bowler than Siraj and Corey imo.

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2 hours ago, SK_IH said:

Saw Southee in dug out yesterday,why is he not being picked?He needs to straightaway in xi next game 

Also I believe RCB have been let down by Sundar,they overestimated his abilities ,it's anyways not easy to bowl spin at Chinnaswamy but they were expected more out of him

he was unwell thats why he joined RCB team late this season, but if RCB has to add some teeth to their bowling have to add southee asap

M shocked that knowing that they went for corey when they asked for NCN replacement . 

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26 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

duniya ki konsi kitaab men likha hai , u cnt be a kohli fan if ur dhoni fan

 

likha kahin nahi hai. i am only stating what is fact. Dont try to hide your allegiance in the garb of "As big a fan im of kohli"

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1 minute ago, rkt.india said:

likha kahin nahi hai. i am only stating what is fact. Dont try to hide your allegiance in the garb of "As big a fan im of kohli"

I dnt have time to waste so wnt bother , but save urself from the shame

 

Go find post of mine where post 2015 bang tour i was screaming dhoni to step down which grew post home series against sa n aussie odi tour.......and also whacked his captaincy to for PWI 1st season 

 

Go ahead 

2 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Dont try to hide your allegiance in the garb of "As big a fan im of kohli"

I have a authority on my opinion so dnt add ur masala to it 

 

Infact in 2016 i was supporting RCB coz i wanted kohli to do well as captain which wud be also good for his confidence as international skipper . Its that fan inside me that waited for so long that he might improve as ipl captain oh but wth who is was kidding. 

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4 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

I dnt have time to waste so wnt bother , but save urself from the shame

 

Go find post of mine where post 2015 bang tour i was screaming dhoni to step down which grew post home series against sa n aussie odi tour.......and also whacked his captaincy to for PWI 1st season 

 

Go ahead 

I have a authority on my opinion so dnt add ur masala to it 

 

Infact in 2016 i was supporting RCB coz i wanted kohli to do well as captain which wud be also good for his confidence as international skipper . Its that fan inside me that waited for so long that he might improve as ipl captain oh but wth who is was kidding. 

And i would say a captain is as good as the team.  Yesterday after Siraj had done his job, if he had one more bowler like Siraj, they would have won it.

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4 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

And i would say a captain is as good as the team. 

correct 70-80% but what u do with those resources is also important 

 

Captain is as good as the team, but he shud be good enough to make the most out of resources 

 

When u constantly chop n change so much, it doesnt help young player infact neither seniors . 

Now m up for kohli to open , but if he wants to play manan as opener give him few games or if he wants to open follow it for few games. Same was the case with kulwant . 

 

Good teams have consistency, u give RCB to other captain and they ll take more out of them then kohli 

 

  • He has southee n woakes in his and yet corey is the choosen one for last over, dnt tell me he is using his resources well 
  • Corey has been out of touch n CDGH is his 2nd option, again not using right resources
  • U dnt serve sundar to raina n raydu at start, raydu kills the spinner and raina breathes easy
  • Look at gambo , whenever dhoni comes he put fielder under his nose. Even ashwin did that to kohli............he is not even using diff tactics . As they no batsman likes fielder under his nose at start 
  • Watson never had a fixed batting order in RCB, in CSK he has and looks in a happy space

 

and dnt even get me started on the body lang of him in pressure situation, infact even ABDV......juniors look upto seniors in crucnh situations and KOHLI, ABDV are not the faces and body languages u shud been watching.........

 

 

 

Since people love to hate dhoni here so they wud deny even if it comes from a player that dhoni calmness help in pressure, but it does ........even if its going haywire but u look at him and he looks it atleast gives u some assurance to calm ur nerves that coz he gives that feeling that things are in control even if they are not . Take gambhir n rohit example, in pressure situatation they are fuming yet they give the impression they are in control

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Yesterday, when Dhoni hit that six of wide yorker by Siraj, they all were on to Siraj. He lost it after that, bowled 3 wides in a row.  Dhoni hit a great shot and Siraj should have still stuck to his yorkers. 

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6 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Yesterday, when Dhoni hit that six of wide yorker by Siraj, they all were on to Siraj. He lost it after that, bowled 3 wides in a row.  Dhoni hit a great shot and Siraj should have still stuck to his yorkers. 

yup both ABDV n kohli were in his ears , in such situations to much of information to a youngtser is not good 

wide yorker to dhoni is the best plan , if he hits it credit to him .....still stick to ur plan coz he wnt be able to hit all of them out of the park 

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I have always said that his downfall will be how he backs wrong players. I think he just sucks at reading his players' strengths and weakness. He's already a best in the business as for as Test captaincy goes, but unfortunately he needs to be much more smart when it comes to team selections in LOIs.  

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7 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

#1 despite his captaincy, TBH.  His team selections have been horrible.

O please . We can all disgree with 1 or 2 yes but which captain would not get this 

 

icf picks team would have 1000 different teams 

 

he has transformed our test team .  Now positive aggressive fighting unit . All down to skipper really that 

 

but of course in giggle ipl he is judged loool

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4 minutes ago, BeardedAladdin said:

90% of indian fans don't give a **** about test cricket. Test matches often rate lower than daytime serials.

 

Old farts like you are a minority.

I don’t base what I think is important on tv ratings .

 

why don’t you stop watching Cricket altogether and watch kardashians all day 

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1 hour ago, BeardedAladdin said:

This is IPL, not international cricket.

 

You have a certain amount of control over the players you can buy. Kohli can pick and choose players from any part of the world, from any country.

 

This excuse doesn't work for an IPL captain.

 

He builds shitty teams, and his captaincy isn't very good. AND he is underachieving as a batsman.

 

This.

IPL captaincy is more like dictatorship where captain having maximum control to form a team and strategies. Its easier to do what we like and stuff and easiest to select the players as you wish.

 

As compared, International cricket would be more like democracy where there is always some checks and balances with inputs from coaches, management, selectors, seniors and contemporaries, etc. A captain has to work with multiple people with authority and would not have as much control as IPL. Which is actually the right way IMO.

 

I feel IPL captaincy can make you great if you have a super star brain and good work ethics. If not you will be terrible, bcos the scope of responsibilities+pressure on captain's shoulder is higher in IPL as compared to International cricket.

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6 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Off spin again right handers is easy. He gave negi cause he is left armed, will turn the ball away.

 

Theory is all great but what matters is real performance. 

 

Dhoni would hav used Sundar much much better. Negi is absolute crap.

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Siraj and Corey have to be dropped. In the 8 overs they bowled, they have conceded 106 runs. Half the runs in chase were scored from just two bowlers. Worst part is that even after the batsman targeting these two bowlers, both did not pick even a single wicket.

Yes, Umesh Yadav dropped one catch off Corey's bowling but thats the only one impact ball that was bowled within 8 overs bowled by that pair. What these two run leakers and wicket-less bowlers also do is help opposition build a big T20 partnership at more than required run rate. 

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After much thought over a glass of whisky gazing into the stars, composed a poem, here it goes:

 

Kohli LOL

What a TROLL

 

Alternatively when Dhoni messes up one can modify the original masterpiece as

 

Dhoni LOL

What a TROLL

 

Since @Mariyam is the wittiest poster here with a gift for poetry, I will ask her what she thinks about my effort. Kitne star dengi mere kavita ko ? You can give rating in terms of cadence, diction, rhyme, creativity, imagery, ability to provoke thought and intellectual discussions............

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I was impressed with Dhoni's innings yesterday and was also caught up in the following hype. 24 hours later my perspective has changed. He played well, respected the in form bowler, ran quick singles, hit the big shots when needed, it was in some ways vintage Dhoni. 

 

That said this was a much poorer bowling attack. Dhoni will not face the sort of pie-chuckers Kohli seems to have packed RCB with, anywhere else in the cricketing calendar. That was a club level bowling attack as well. Plus he had excellent support from Raydu and Bravo. So all in all, it was an epic innings against a weak opposition in friendly batting conditions.

 

That said I sincerely hope this innings and this IPL per se, reignites some of Dhoni's old form and confidence. Because India will need it if there's any hope of winning the WC. The Mumbai Minions trimurtis, a.k.a NoH!t, Pandya and to some extent Bumrah.....they are a big setback to the teams prospects. They will play nonetheless but do not deserve to. I hope Rahul replaces NoH!t. Dhawan and Kohli are good at the top. Then rest of the batting line up is a lottery.

 

Dhoni in form will help proceedings a lot. There is no other reliable keeper batsman available to replace him atm.

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3 hours ago, Gollum said:

After much thought over a glass of whisky gazing into the stars, composed a poem, here it goes:

Kohli LOL

What a TROLL

Alternatively when Dhoni messes up one can modify the original masterpiece as

Dhoni LOL

What a TROLL

Since @Mariyam is the wittiest poster here with a gift for poetry, I will ask her what she thinks about my effort. Kitne star dengi mere kavita ko ? You can give rating in terms of cadence, diction, rhyme, creativity, imagery, ability to provoke thought and intellectual discussions............

You flatter too much!

 

I would rate your master piece a 10/10. Poetry meter in place.

The poem might seem slight in terms of size, but its effect is powerful. I laughed aloud at the second stanza which reads like a satirical playlet .The words are profound and can would have a huge impact on the works of the philosophers of the future. In terms of impact, I'd place your masterpiece right with Nietzsche's Thus spake Zarathustra

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1 hour ago, Mariyam said:

You flatter too much!

 

I would rate your master piece a 10/10. Poetry meter in place.

The poem might seem slight in terms of size, but its effect is powerful. I laughed aloud at the second stanza which reads like a satirical playlet .The words are profound and can would have a huge impact on the works of the philosophers of the future. In terms of impact, I'd place your masterpiece right with Nietzsche's Thus spake Zarathustra

Thank you, your words mean the world to me o Great Poetess. 

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13 hours ago, BeardedAladdin said:

I'm trying to explain why people are 100% right to think kohli is a shitty captain.

 

You being an old fart, IPL isn't important to you. But for the majority of cricket fans in india, it is.

 

Why don't you stop reading the IPL forum and watch tendulkar videos all day

Ipl is not issue . It’s t20 by its very nature it’s more randomn and hard to really get any real judgements from . Frankly skippers are almost non factor in some of these matches 

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6 minutes ago, King Tendulkar said:

Last year Rohit god of Captaincy

 

this year ...

 

 

This year, it is not that he is not captaining well... 
The team composition is not good like last year. They don't have stabilizer like N Rana in between and the form of H Pandya is not helping either. Overall, the batting line-up (and form of batsmen) is very shaky this time and is the major factor for most of the losses of MI. 

 

There is no excuse for RCB to loose the last match vs CSK. They had it in the bag up until 15th over of CSK's chase. 

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I wonder why Kohli didn't learn the art of captaincy even after having so much captaincy experience.
Jo effort selectors dala hai Virat Kohli ko captain banane, iske half effort se hamare class sabse bekaar student ko bhi 90% mil gaya tha.

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44 minutes ago, diga said:

Kumble will be quietly laughing and also cringing at Kohli/RCB struggles ... 

what has this to do with Kumble? RCB struggled even when Kumble was captain and mentor.

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24 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

what has this to do with Kumble? RCB struggled even when Kumble was captain and mentor.

Nope .. they were 10 runs of winning the finals in 2009

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Nobody knows how to waste the brand new ball better than Virat. He is giving 2 to 3 overs of power play overs to spinners. Making the pace bowlers bowl few overs in power play. Pacers shoudl be getting overs 1 to 6, that's when they can make use of the new ball much better in 20 over game. The reverse swing will be non-existence in T20 format. The attitude of lot of Indian captains is negative. In no ways i am saying spinners are useless. the point i am trying to make is give the spinners to bowl when all the pacers are done opening with new ball,atleast 2 overs each. Spinners should not be given the new ball .  They should be used for middle overs. I have been an advocate of having a specialist batsman as captain for various reasons (injuries more probable for bowlers/allrounders, bowlers need to be rested unlike specialist batsmen etc). However, seeing the way Virat is using spinners upfront, it would be better to have a pace bowling player as captain. At least he will use the right bowlers at the right time.

 

Washington Sundar, Badree, Chahal are the bowlers which were / are being used by Virat for RCB. Sundar in T20i as well. Surely this crap attitude towards pacers has to stop somewhere. The sooner the better. It's ridiculous spinners are bowling the first over rather than an pacer.Mind boggling.

 

In tests too we see Ashwin bowling the second over in some matches. What the hell is going on. Yes, we have two spinners who were leading the test bowling rankings for many months, however don't the pacers need to be given an opportunity with the new ball and some good slip fielders?

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1 minute ago, Straight Drive said:

Nobody knows how to waste the brand new ball better than Virat. He is giving 2 to 3 overs of power play overs to spinners. Making the pace bowlers bowl few overs in power play. Pacers shoudl be getting overs 1 to 6, that's when they can make use of the new ball much better in 20 over game. The reverse swing will be non-existence in T20 format. The attitude of lot of Indian captains is negative. In now ways i am saying spinners are useless. the point i am trying to make is give the spinners to bowl when all the pacers are done opening with new ball,atleast 2 overs each. Spinners should not be given the new ball so frequently. I have been an advocate of having a specialist batsman as captain for various reasons (injuries more probable for bowlers/allrounders, bowlers need to be rested unlike specialist batsmen etc). However, seeing the way Virat is using spinners upfront, it would be better to have a pace bowling player as captain. At least he will use the right bowlers at the right time.

You can for sure bowl spinners if some overseas batsmen are batting, but he bowled spinners against likes of Raina and Rayudu on a flattish pitch in PP. 

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He's won 3 IPLs. Kohli's won 0. 

 

Kohli shouldn't be captaining any team in t20. 

Ambanis love splashing the cash 

 

plus imo deep down Kolhi not bothered with ipl. He knows it’s all pants lol it’s not defining as a player lol

 

come India kolhi wakes up and is a different beast . He knows this is all just good fun . :phehe:

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You can for sure bowl spinners if some overseas batsmen are batting, but he bowled spinners against likes of Raina and Rayudu on a flattish pitch in PP. 

O well for India he unleashes and backs pace . So all good lol ipl he experiments :phehe:

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Or...maybe...he's just a shitty captain who doesn't know what he's doing. As this entire thread suggests.

 

And how do you splash cash in salary cap league? lol. Face it bruv, you haven't got a clue.

 

Just take a break til the ingerlund series, i hope tickets are still available

 

Yes he is crap ipl skipper ( no idea as dont alanalyse prioerly ) . Who cares . Doing great as India skipper and that’s the bottom line . 

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Ambanis love splashing the cash 

 

plus imo deep down Kolhi not bothered with ipl. He knows it’s all pants lol it’s not defining as a player lol

 

come India kolhi wakes up and is a different beast . He knows this is all just good fun . :phehe:

 

Then he should voluntarily be not captaining an IPL team, right?

 

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