Clearly an imbalanced side.

[vvvslaxman]

Top 3 or bust trend continues. There is no sign of fixing the issue with washed out players.  Just replace the middle order with Pant, Gill, Prithvi shaw. You couldn't much worse than what the current crop does. You need a lot of hunger. You need to share responsibility. If you are experienced that has to count for something. You need complete players, not bits and pieces players like Pandya. Top 7 should be reliable, fit, versatile. Almost every single time after top 3 I subconsciously give up hopes of any recovery. Also, the current lot looks a lot worse against spin on dry pitches than ever. They just can't get going. With tons of weaknesses and unfixable issues, they have to do an overhaul. Few stupid cosmetic changes (dropping Umesh for Bhuvi) won't address anything. They have to sit down and  write 4 5 6 7 and check all the options for these positions

 

 

[Sean Bradley]

hit the nail on head there...

[Ankit_sharma03]

8 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 Just replace the middle order with Pant, Gill, Prithvi shaw. You couldn't much worse than what the current crop does. You need a lot of hunger.

Shaw , gill are top order player making them bat at 4, 5 wud be extremely unfair on them. Might not do worse then current player but it wud be worse for their own futures

As they ll fail , whole indian media n public will jump on them to get seniors back

[Switchblade]

1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said:

Top 3 or bust trend continues. There is no sign of fixing the issue with washed out players.  Just replace the middle order with Pant, Gill, Prithvi shaw. You couldn't much worse than what the current crop does. You need a lot of hunger. You need to share responsibility. If you are experienced that has to count for something. You need complete players, not bits and pieces players like Pandya. Top 7 should be reliable, fit, versatile. Almost every single time after top 3 I subconsciously give up hopes of any recovery. Also, the current lot looks a lot worse against spin on dry pitches than ever. They just can't get going. With tons of weaknesses and unfixable issues, they have to do an overhaul. Few stupid cosmetic changes (dropping Umesh for Bhuvi) won't address anything. They have to sit down and  write 4 5 6 7 and check all the options for these positions

 

 

It’s like an Rcb eleven isn’t it top heavy after that it is all gloom and bowling is slowly becoming the same except the spinners.

[The Realist]

2 hours ago, Switchblade said:

It’s like an Rcb eleven isn’t it top heavy after that it is all gloom and bowling is slowly becoming the same except the spinners.

India under Kohli are mutating into a poor man's RCB. 

Ridiculously top-heavy with no middle order to speak of and a very long tail. Plus a cheerleader on the sides. All that is missing is an teenager with obesity issues and a couple of military-medium trundlers.

[Switchblade]

6 hours ago, The Realist said:

India under Kohli are mutating into a poor man's RCB. 

Ridiculously top-heavy with no middle order to speak of and a very long tail. Plus a cheerleader on the sides. All that is missing is an teenager with obesity issues and a couple of military-medium trundlers.

 Teenager with obesity issues was hilarious comment.Military  medium trundlers were Dhoni’s preference sad that Srinath Aravind retired otherwise I am sure Kohli would have selected him.

Edited July 18, 2018 by Switchblade

[wanted_desi]

Top 3 is a Myth:

 

If Pitch is Flat = Top 3 play out most of overs, giving less than chance for middle order batters. 

If Pitch has something = Everyone Fails!

 

Give time for middle order to settle on flat pitches, and they will score centuries. 

Currently, Kohli is only one world class batsman, other one KL is warming benches. Rest of  them are just not at that level. 

[Switchblade]

9 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Shaw , gill are top order player making them bat at 4, 5 wud be extremely unfair on them. Might not do worse then current player but it wud be worse for their own futures

As they ll fail , whole indian media n public will jump on them to get seniors back

Reason I don’t want Pant right now in the team is cause you know if Dhoni leaves by any chance if he has some shame left in him then our media will create pressure on Pant by creating headlines if he can fill the huge void left by Dhoni and again he will be under immense pressure if he plays the World Cup next year.He should have played in 2017 when we toured the Caribbean and he should have been a regular fixture in our playing eleven.Two or three years were enough for him to gain confidence and build a place in the team but our captain was more interested in selecting players like Rahane or Jhadav or persisted with Dhoni.We were playing a waek Windies side great chance for Pant to build some confidence but he selected players like Yuvraj,Dhoni or Jhadav there and winning the bilateral series against minnows.

[beetle]

9 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

replace the middle order with Pant, Gill, Prithvi shaw.

This.

There is no way this middle order will fail as often as the present middle order.

[Vilander]

8 hours ago, Switchblade said:

It’s like an Rcb eleven isn’t it top heavy after that it is all gloom and bowling is slowly becoming the same except the spinners.

there is a trend there man...its worrying. may be problem is the captains approach there.

[Vilander]

7 minutes ago, Switchblade said:

Reason I don’t want Pant right now in the team is cause you know if Dhoni leaves by any chance if he has some shame left in him then our media will create pressure on Pant

Pant am sure just wants an opportunity to prove himself.

[SK_IH]

its more of a self inflicted problem, you can guuess the collective acumen of the mangament if they thought raina can play as a 6th bowler and dropping rahul for DK and calling it as a tactic 

 

[Switchblade]

1 minute ago, Vilander said:

there is a trend there man...its worrying. may be problem is the captains approach there.

Even in Rcb Ray Jennings was fired due to Virat.I don’t feel confident that youngsters like Shaw/Gill/Pant/Iyer can do well under current regime it seems more like a clique where only one or two are allowed to be a part of the group.While Dhoni has to go but you have to admit that under him at least the likes of Virat/Rohit/Dhawan were given enough chances to settle themselves into the team but under Kohli we see players who performed well getting benched.He is a poor captain and he needs to go as a skipper.

[Vilander]

7 minutes ago, Switchblade said:

Even in Rcb Ray Jennings was fired due to Virat.I don’t feel confident that youngsters like Shaw/Gill/Pant/Iyer can do well under current regime it seems more like a clique where only one or two are allowed to be a part of the group.While Dhoni has to go but you have to admit that under him at least the likes of Virat/Rohit/Dhawan were given enough chances to settle themselves into the team but under Kohli we see players who performed well getting benched.He is a poor captain and he needs to go as a skipper.

this seems to be true. Get coaches fired, put a question on KL Rahuls spot in spite of good performance, include Dhoni/Raina in - include Dhawan/Rohit in tests ( they are our best in ODI though).

Edited July 18, 2018 by Vilander

[Switchblade]

4 minutes ago, Vilander said:

this seems to be true. Get coaches fired, put a question on KL Rahuls spot in spite of good performance, include Dhoni/Raina in - include Dhawan/Rohit in tests ( they are our best in ODI though).

To me it’s looking like pre WC 2007 thing at that time Coach Chappel tried to hog the limelight while his intention of introducing the youngsters was right his execution was totally wrong.This time we have a captain whose thought process is totally messed up and a cheerleader coach who would tell our captain everything he wants to hear.As you heard that our backups are Pandey/Jinx/Raydu that tells you where we are heading next year.

[Sec19]

We need enforcers in the MO like England + allrounders who can bowl spin.Tough decisions needs to be taken.Pick Abhishek sharma and drop chahal .We can then afford one more fast bowler like Siraj or Mavi.Also Chahal needs to go.He is a poor fielder  , doesnt bat at all.

Rahul at 4 , Pant and Abhishek Sharma at 5 or 6.

Hardik at 7 allows space for 3 pacers and 1 spinner or 2 each depending on the conditions.

[SK_IH]

5 minutes ago, Sec19 said:

We need enforcers in the MO like England + allrounders who can bowl spin.Tough decisions needs to be taken.Pick Abhishek sharma and drop chahal .We can then afford one more fast bowler like Siraj or Mavi.Also Chahal needs to go.He is a poor fielder  , doesnt bat at all.

Rahul at 4 , Pant and Abhishek Sharma at 5 or 6.

Hardik at 7 allows space for 3 pacers and 1 spinner or 2 each depending on the conditions.

abhishek would be a stretch at the momentum mind you i am his big fan but krunal is more ready for that spot 

[Sec19]

Only reason i included Abhishek is his slip catching skills.At present Raina is the safest one there.

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Kuch nahin hone wala

[nevada]

I totally disagree with "keeping the world cup in mind" thinking of the selectors. Even two years before the world cup, places get locked in with over the hill oldies hogging spots due to their "experience". Experience in what? Being serial losers with timid, "safe" playing style? If the oldie is mediocre today how is he gonna be any better 1-2 years later? Pick players who can play well today, are bold and unafraid to lose and have the hunger to succeed. When the world cup comes.along, you don't need to worry about team selection because you will already have a team that is performing well. World cup is a tournament where you should compete with your best possible team. It is not a venue to give grand send offs to oldies and enable their feeble attempts to gain personal glory at the cost of the team.