India's middle order

[tweaker]

India odi team is too dependent on their top three.Most of the time they sail the team through.

 

India' s middle order consists of Raina, Dhoni, Karthik, pandey, Rahane, Rayuddu etc.

 

The team management is averse to blood youngsters so Iyer, Pant,Hooda,Rana are not going to get selected.

 

Also as per team management, Dhoni is not going to retire uptill he enjoys the game.

 

So the contenders for the no 4 spot are

Raina, Rahane, Pandey, Rayuddu,.

 

The team management is not considering Rahul for the no 4 spot as for them the batsman at no 4 should be able to roll his arm over for 2,3 overs.

 

Jadhav had a decent outing as he was able to play at a good average & was also a handy bowlers.His injury has highlighted the middle order problem The selectors also complicated it by selecting Raina in his spot.

 

Considering the players in the recogning for the no 4 spot,if he is full fit, Jadhav could solve the middle order problem of our odi side.

[tweaker]

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[Ankit_sharma03]

2 hours ago, tweaker said:

 

So the contenders for the no 4 spot are

Raina, Rahane, Pandey, Rayuddu,.

 

Raina is out of the picture now 

[tweaker]

37 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Raina is out of the picture now 

Kohli & Shastri are his fan.

Edited July 22, 2018 by tweaker

[Ankit_sharma03]

11 hours ago, tweaker said:

Kohli & Shastri are his fan.

So were they of yuvraj singh, At the end even they wanna win....ppl say its about frendship but actually its not. They just have bad ideas and they suffer for it .

Some will get that extra cushion but one day it all has to end and its always defeats like this that makes it happen

[Switchblade]

12 hours ago, UnknownGenius said:

I'm.ok with one oor two of Raina rayudu or jadhav

 

Drop Rohit. Ask KL to open.

The winning mentality of Dhoni/Raina/Thakur went missing in the last two Odi matches 

[Switchblade]

14 minutes ago, UnknownGenius said:

3 players cant carry a team esp when you have tuk tuk selfish 2 runs off 18 balls opener like Rohit

 

No modern day opener plays 2 (1 8) innings. Embarrassment 

 

Raina needs to be at #3 and you will see fortunes change

But Dhoni also did his tuk tuk so much that he got booed out of the stadium.

[Switchblade]

17 minutes ago, UnknownGenius said:

Btw for the record I'm.not attacking youu and I'm not atta king Rohit because saying anything critical of Rohit or Sachin or   posters who lack intricate understanding of the game gets you banned here 

 

Calling a spade a spade

Rohit is clueless I accept that but so is Msd or Raina they are washed up has beens in the team.

[Rasgulla]

17 hours ago, UnknownGenius said:

Drop Rohit. Ask KL to open.

That's first step.. If they can fix that we can worry about rest of them 

[Switchblade]

48 minutes ago, UnknownGenius said:

How so? They recently played key roles in winning a major championship despite everyone saying they will finish last. They have that winning mentality that cannot be replaced

 

They are winners. Problem is team is wrongly set up and doesn't suit their strengths. Can't have passengers like Rohit. Can't have e a tail beginning at 8 and a total hit or miss at 7.

 

Need depth. Follow recipe of the most successful T20 franc hise ever. Have deep batting order that allows Raina and MSD to play freely. Have good fielder's not pot belly like Rohit. Have multi dimensional players all rounders not one densional tuk tuk or miss like Rohit

 

Rahul

Dhawan (few more chances)

Raina

Kohli

MSD

Jadhav or Vijay Shankar

 Medium pace batting all rounder  maybe pandya

Bowling all rounder Chahar or thakur

Spin all rounder jadeja

Proper spinner kuldeep

Bumrah

 

 

Ipl is domestic league international cricket is different to a domestic league.

[Switchblade]

3 minutes ago, UnknownGenius said:

It doesn't matter. People who couldn't make it to IPL killed India - Willey, root, bairstow etc

 

You need depth. England can bat up to 9 or 10 sometimes 11 because wwilley Rashid plunkett Woakes can all bat. That gives the top.order and middle order freedom to go every ball

 

India batting stops at 7. O top of that you have your favorite tuk tuk Rohit shrma up top. That causes team to lose wickets to make up for his tuk tuk and then you have to consolidate because of no lower order

 

Every successful team these days bat deep - CsK engaldn, Vancouver knightss

 

Please watch more cricket outside of Indian national team to understand how game has transfortransformed

 

You are stuck in the 90's where you had tuk tuk openers like prabhakar shastri Tendulkar and a long tail

 

Wake up. Move on. Game has CHANGED

 

I have seen cricket But clobbering domestic trundlers and facing international bowlers is bit different and Rohit is not my favourite but I would rather have young players like Pant instead of tuk tuk I am enhancing my brand value Dhoni or a scared Raina getting out to spinners or to 120 kmph Irish bowlers.You should take of your Ipl Csk glasses and watch cricket plus you keep repeating yourself in each and every post come up with something new it’s getting boring now .

[Switchblade]

44 minutes ago, UnknownGenius said:

Btw switchblade I like you. I think you have potential to learn about cricket but you need to reset and educate yourself on how the game has transformed

 

Throw away the black and white tapes. Stop drinking the selfish Tendulkar Kool aid.

 

Go study up a bit and then cwe back. Willing to spend sometime to educate you but you have to do your due diligence first

 

Cool later 

I feel honoured  Sachin is already retired plus maybe the world cricketing fraternity must be high on something who respect or admire him.Yes he dragged his career for two years Dhoni is doing the same thing now go check my posts I don’t bash him unnecessarily but he is done and dusted now. 

Edited July 23, 2018 by Switchblade

[philcric]

1 hour ago, UnknownGenius said:

How so? They recently played key roles in winning a major championship despite everyone saying they will finish last. They have that winning mentality that cannot be replaced

 

They are winners. Problem is team is wrongly set up and doesn't suit their strengths. Can't have passengers like Rohit. Can't have e a tail beginning at 8 and a total hit or miss at 7.

 

Need depth. Follow recipe of the most successful T20 franc hise ever. Have deep batting order that allows Raina and MSD to play freely. Have good fielder's not pot belly like Rohit. Have multi dimensional players all rounders not one densional tuk tuk or miss like Rohit

 

Rahul

Dhawan (few more chances)

Raina

Kohli

MSD

Jadhav or Vijay Shankar

 Medium pace batting all rounder  maybe pandya

Bowling all rounder Chahar or thakur

Spin all rounder jadeja

Proper spinner kuldeep

Bumrah

 

 

 

Great team. I suddenly feel more optimistic about our world cup chances.

 

 

[philcric]

35 minutes ago, UnknownGenius said:

Btw switchblade I like you. I think you have potential to learn about cricket but you need to reset and educate yourself on how the game has transformed

 

Throw away the black and white tapes. Stop drinking the selfish Tendulkar Kool aid.

 

Go study up a bit and then cwe back. Willing to spend sometime to educate you but you have to do your due diligence first

 

Cool later 

 

@Switchblade you lucky dog !!

 

[Rasgulla]

4 hours ago, Switchblade said:

switchblade I like you

Agreed with this part

[Rasgulla]

4 hours ago, Switchblade said:

Sachin is already retired

Complete the sentence....  by who ?

 

*Drum role*

[Switchblade]

9 hours ago, Rasgulla said:

Complete the sentence....  by who ?

 

*Drum role*

[Stan AF]

India has NO middle order. Plain and simple. The top 3 can bat and that's all there about it.

 

To ask a performing opener (who can bat through 50 overs and is averaging 50+ in the last 5 years with 3 double hundreds) to come down at #4 is a joke. If KL rahul wants a place in the top 3 he has to earn it. At present his place is #4 with DK at #5.

 

To see people suggesting the likes of Rahane/Raina/Rayudu and Pandey is still amusing.

Raina much like Dhoni is past his use by date. His place is with his IPL team and not the Indian Team. Same goes to dhoni.

Pandey can bat but seems to struggle a lot when the NRR goes high.

Rahane is a test bat(a good one at that) and not a limited overs material.

 

Bottom line : Top3 + Keep KL Rahul at 4, KD karthik at #5. Blood the youngsters NOWWWWW. No more of the aforementioned probables.

Edited July 24, 2018 by Stan AF

[tweaker]

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports/cricket/cricket-news/article/not-kl-rahul-or-dinesh-karthik-harsha-bhogle-suggests-ms-dhonis-name-for-indias-no-4-conundrum/256496?

 

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With KL Rahul, Dinesh Karthik and multiple other players failing to fulfil the requirements of No. 4 position in the Indian ODI team, renowned cricket expert Harsha Bhogle has suggested the name of MS Dhoni at second-down. The move might not only solve India's batting order issues but might also help Dhoni rediscover his lost form.

 

Edited July 25, 2018 by tweaker

[Jimmy Cliff]

28 minutes ago, tweaker said:

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports/cricket/cricket-news/article/not-kl-rahul-or-dinesh-karthik-harsha-bhogle-suggests-ms-dhonis-name-for-indias-no-4-conundrum/256496?

 

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With KL Rahul, Dinesh Karthik and multiple other players failing to fulfil the requirements of No. 4 position in the Indian ODI team, renowned cricket expert Harsha Bhogle has suggested the name of MS Dhoni at second-down. The move might not only solve India's batting order issues but might also help Dhoni rediscover his lost form.

 

Jab gaana hi bakwaas hai toh upar neeche shuffle karke kya hoga. Need to delete it from the playlist altogether.