Teenagers are no longer making debut for India

[Trichromatic]

Player making debut before age of 20

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	100	50	0
JD Unadkat	2010-2010	1	2	1	2	1*	2.00	0	0	0
I Sharma	2007-2007	1	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
PP Chawla	2006-2006	1	1	0	1	1	1.00	0	0	0
KD Karthik	2004-2004	1	2	0	14	10	7.00	0	0	0
IK Pathan	2003-2003	1	1	0	1	1	1.00	0	0	0
PA Patel	2002-2002	1	2	1	19	19*	19.00	0	0	1
M Kaif	2000-2000	1	2	0	35	23	17.50	0	0	0
A Nehra	1999-1999	1	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Harbhajan Singh	1998-1998	1	2	1	4	4*	4.00	0	0	1
A Kumble	1990-1990	1	1	0	2	2	2.00	0	0	0
SR Tendulkar	1989-1989	1	1	0	15	15	15.00	0	0	0
ND Hirwani	1988-1988	1	1	0	1	1	1.00	0	0	0
C Sharma	1984-1984	1	1	0	4	4	4.00	0	0	0
L Sivaramakrishnan	1983-1983	1	1	0	17	17	17.00	0	0	0
Maninder Singh	1982-1982	1	2	0	0	0	0.00	0	0	2
RJ Shastri	1981-1981	1	2	1	22	19	22.00	0	0	0
N Kapil Dev	1978-1978	1	1	0	8	8	8.00	0	0	0
DB Vengsarkar	1976-1976	1	2	0	13	7	6.50	0	0	0
M Amarnath	1969-1969	1	2	1	16	16*	16.00	0	0	1
S Venkataraghavan	1965-1965	1	1	0	4	4	4.00	0	0	0
BS Chandrasekhar	1964-1964	1	1	0	0	0	0.00	0	0	1

 

Overall figures

Decade	Players	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	100	50	0
2010s	1	1	2	1	2	1*	2.00	0	0	0
2000s	6	6	8	1	70	23	10.00	0	0	1
1990s	3	3	3	1	6	4*	3.00	0	0	1
1980s	6	6	8	1	59	19	8.42	0	0	2
1970s	2	2	3	0	21	8	7.00	0	0	0
1960s	4	4	6	1	45	16*	9.00	0	0	2
1950s	5	5	6	1	45	19	9.00	0	0	0
1930s	2	1	4	0	78	36	19.50	0	0	0

 

 

Age of 20-23

Overall figures

Decade	Players	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	100	50	0
1930s	8	3	16	2	397	118	28.35	1	2	2
1940s	7	5	13	2	225	57*	20.45	0	2	2
1950s	17	15	26	6	644	112	32.20	2	2	4
1960s	14	10	25	3	442	137	20.09	1	0	4
1970s	8	5	12	1	234	67*	21.27	0	2	0
1980s	17	14	28	4	555	110	23.12	1	2	3
1990s	16	14	26	6	558	131	27.90	1	2	0
2000s	16	14	21	6	274	105	18.26	1	0	1
2010s	11	10	17	1	390	120	24.37	1	2	0

 

 

24-27

Overall figures

Decade	Players	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	100	50	0
1930s	6	5	11	3	212	59	26.50	0	2	0
1940s	7	6	13	2	58	24	5.27	0	0	5
1950s	10	10	11	2	190	110	21.11	1	0	2
1960s	12	11	20	2	330	105	18.33	1	0	2
1970s	9	8	15	1	396	124	28.28	1	1	1
1980s	14	12	17	4	319	71	24.53	0	3	2
1990s	13	10	16	4	320	103	26.66	1	0	1
2000s	10	10	16	3	271	42	20.84	0	0	1
2010s	13	12	20	2	511	187	28.38	2	0	5

 

 

28-30

Overall figures

Decade	Players	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	100	50	0
1930s	5	2	10	1	204	39	22.66	0	0	0
1940s	6	5	11	1	242	85	24.20	0	2	2
1950s	6	6	9	1	84	39	10.50	0	0	3
1960s	1	1	1	0	9	9	9.00	0	0	0
1970s	1	1	2	0	81	77	40.50	0	1	0
1980s	2	2	4	0	72	29	18.00	0	0	0
1990s	3	3	4	0	75	75	18.75	0	1	3
2000s	3	3	5	1	70	36	17.50	0	0	1
2010s	3	3	6	1	151	78	30.20	0	2	0

 

 

Number of players making debut in different decades

Overall figures

Decade	Players	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	100	50	0
1930s	26	7	51	8	1066	118	24.79	1	5	4
1940s	25	11	46	6	622	85	15.55	0	4	10
1950s	42	25	57	11	1003	112	21.80	3	2	9
1960s	31	22	52	6	826	137	17.95	2	0	8
1970s	23	18	36	2	818	124	24.05	1	5	2
1980s	40	30	57	9	1005	110	20.93	1	5	7
1990s	36	26	51	11	986	131	24.65	2	3	5
2000s	37	26	53	12	726	105	17.70	1	0	4
2010s	29	24	47	5	1110	187	26.42	3	4	5

 

 

 

In last 5 years, only 12 players have made debut for India

Overall figures

Decade	Players	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
2010s	12	11	19	3	460	177	28.75	834	55.15	1	2	1	54	5

 

 

[MCcricket]

This is a serious problem, when will potentially good bowlers get a chance ,after they r ground to dust,fast bowlers have to identified n groomed nurtured introduced early.

 

Also among batters guys like Sarafaraz, Shaw have to be introduced sooner then later, the dangerous trend since Dhoni took over is the cliques and groups, New comers not getting a chance to challenge the pretenders.

[beetle]

Copy pasting my rant from another thread.....

 

Kohli doesn't want another star to emerge when he is the king of brands right now.

Some of these new players are stars of future and will eat into his brand market.

 

The guy who got his chance at 19 does not believe in youth but relies on recycling old experienced lot.

 

He probably wants to keep future competition out as long as he can....

 

He will make changes only when he starts losing as a captain and it starts effecting his brand value.

 

Kohli is a captain....not a leader. 

 

Shastri is there just for the fun and money....while it lasts.

 

 

[Oldhere]

Over reaction again.

 

It always feel good to have teens debuting but we need to look at other perspective and that is our pool to select players has massively increased.

 

It isnt about kohli not wanting it or some other sinster plans.

 

its about our cricket improving specially domestically.

 

 

[speedheat]

Gutless team management, coward captain, stupid coach n still you expect any sense or courage? some high-flown talents like koti, mavi, gill n shaw are worth taking risks directly into national teams instead of making them rot in domestics , but will this tm has courage ?? No, they are more worried about criticism which will follow if any of their experiment fails look how Australia developing Richardson n stanlake or even Pakistan with shinwari n shaeen afridi.

[express bowling]

My biggest worry is that pacers are not debuting by age 22 or 23 in the last 2 years.

 

This is one area where debuting early is very important as pacers start to lose pace by age 30 - 32.  A new pacer, whenever he debuts, needs 2 to 3 years to mature if his learning ability is standard.

 

One would want a mature pacer bowling at full pace for as long as possible.

 

We have seen so many pacers debuting or near debut at ages 25 to 28 recently.  How many years will they have at full pace after they mature after 2 to 3 years  !

 

This lot of Nagarkoti 18, Mavi 19, Khaleel 20, Avesh 21 and Prasidh 22 ... need as many A-team games as possible, so that they can debut quickly.

 

 

Edited July 28, 2018 by express bowling

[R!TTER]

Just now, Oldhere said:

Over reaction again.

 

It always feel good to have teens debuting but we need to look at other perspective and that is our pool to select players has massively increased.

 

It isnt about kohli not wanting it or some other sinster plans.

 

its about our cricket improving specially domestically.

 

 

So what are the domestic bullies doing abroad? Also why do we keep sending players on A tours then? When will these A players become regular in the first team? Does Kohli actually think beyond the current moment and results? Is this also on Dhoni, his influence?

Edited July 28, 2018 by R!TTER

[Clarke]

Wow, we had an 8 year vacuum in 90s as well, the tigers at home & lambs abroad era of Indian cricket. No coincidence we're not doing as well as we should given our resources & talent at hand.

[kosingh]

When supremely talented 26 year olds have to wait in line behind older players  to get a decent chance...

[prudent_kreeda]

7 hours ago, Oldhere said:

Over reaction again.

 

It always feel good to have teens debuting but we need to look at other perspective and that is our pool to select players has massively increased.

 

It isnt about kohli not wanting it or some other sinster plans.

 

its about our cricket improving specially domestically.

 

 

     It does not look so staright .. 

     When you prefer Shikhar, Rohit over Rahane & KL in overseas tests ..  it is difficult to make out a logical justification  for that .

      You would see even old foreign veteran players getting perplexed .  At least they do not have any axe to grind . 

      When you stick to clearly struggling MSD still playing all t 20 / 50 over matches when atleast 3 WK /bats better than him are waiting . 

   

 

[Rasgulla]

Age is just a number. Present 37 yr old can beat that 18 or 30 yr old in yo yo test. 

[Oldhere]

49 minutes ago, prudent_kreeda said:

     It does not look so staright .. 

     When you prefer Shikhar, Rohit over Rahane & KL in overseas tests ..  it is difficult to make out a logical justification  for that .

      You would see even old foreign veteran players getting perplexed .  At least they do not have any axe to grind . 

      When you stick to clearly struggling MSD still playing all t 20 / 50 over matches when atleast 3 WK /bats better than him are waiting . 

   

 

I completely agree about weird nd bad preferences for sure.

 

My above response was only about teenagers nd not about bad selections.

[rtmohanlal]

a great eye opener. Truly a reflection of what the current team management has been doing.They should realize that  greats like Sachin,Kapil,Kumble,Chandra started so young and yet ended up so successful.

 

On a side note, what prevents these stubborn minded people to try talented youngsters in dead rubbers and against lower ranked teams is out of my question.  

[wanted_desi]

Reason: Virat Kohli

Why: He doesn't want another superstar in the team. He knows current guys like Dhawan/Rohit can't challenge him.

Proof: I don't think any captain in Indian History would have treated Kuldeep/KL Rahul the way Virat has.

 

It sure feels like corruption when players like Pant/KL/Kuldeep get treated like **** by Kohli. He surely is taking Indian cricket to dump. 

[Lannister]

22 hours ago, Oldhere said:

Over reaction again.

 

It always feel good to have teens debuting but we need to look at other perspective and that is our pool to select players has massively increased.

 

It isnt about kohli not wanting it or some other sinster plans.

 

its about our cricket improving specially domestically.

 

 

We are yet to win a test series in Australia and SA and we have been abysmal in recent years in England. It's not like the team has been doing well with the current pool of players. 

 

[speedheat]

15 hours ago, Rasgulla said:

Age is just a number. Present 37 yr old can beat that 18 or 30 yr old in yo yo test. 

Well unfortunately  Age is not just a number for us humans, Bot  its extremely sad to see our heroes growing old with white beard defending a fulltoss in death overs  haaan but in your world Bot  it is just a number I agree.. I envy you Bot

[Clarke]

3 hours ago, wanted_desi said:

Reason: Virat Kohli

Why: He doesn't want another superstar in the team. He knows current guys like Dhawan/Rohit can't challenge him.

Proof: I don't think any captain in Indian History would have treated Kuldeep/KL Rahul the way Virat has.

 

It sure feels like corruption when players like Pant/KL/Kuldeep get treated like **** by Kohli. He surely is taking Indian cricket to dump. 

Kohli came in later as captain, there is a vacuum since 2010. Looks like there is a process in place.

Edited July 29, 2018 by Clarke

[Khota]

Sheer pace bowlers can make a debut as they can only bowl so many overs. Batsman can wait as they have to mature. Going back to Tendulkar debut for me I dont see any positive in that. Instead of team it became all about him and his records.

[Chandan]

On 7/28/2018 at 10:47 AM, beetle said:

Copy pasting my rant from another thread.....

 

Kohli doesn't want another star to emerge when he is the king of brands right now.

Some of these new players are stars of future and will eat into his brand market.

 

The guy who got his chance at 19 does not believe in youth but relies on recycling old experienced lot.

 

He probably wants to keep future competition out as long as he can....

 

He will make changes only when he starts losing as a captain and it starts effecting his brand value.

 

Kohli is a captain....not a leader. 

 

Shastri is there just for the fun and money....while it lasts.

 

 

And after all this, you know why Kohli didn't want Kumble as coach? Because he had a vision and plan to take Ind team to next level and he was working on it but here had differences with Kohli regarding Kuldeep and few others. Also hope you remember how Kumble had kept our bowlers fresh through that mega home season and even after that by resting them from LOIs and even IPL.

 

And here as we are on our most important away tour, our most important weapons are out, injured! Why? They were busy in IPL, LOIs and badly managed through injury. Why? The coach is not bothered about the team and the players and so is the skipper.

What a huge loss Kumble is for Indian cricket. 

[Trichromatic]

And then players cry about workload. Just get in more youngsters ffs.