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6 minutes ago, Temujin Khaghan said:

saha played a retarded shot during the 'nearly there yet lost' first game in OZ series, after vk hit 2 tons in that game...

dont trust him since then.

Useless. Average against spinners as well while keeping. 

 

Back to 90s we go...

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Last thing this thread needs is Dhoni fans jumping in. That fat *er was the reason an entire generation of Indian quicks was forced to mellow down...why? Because poor old pussy couldn't take the pounding on his precious fingers. Have also seen enough of that sloth bear against the quicks and his refusal to attempt any catch beyond the range his deep rooted static feet allowed him.

 

Anybody with a functioning brain will appreciate Saha's footwork behind the stumps, for a true connoisseur of cricket there is as much beauty in it as a Kohli cover drive or Ashwin jaffa. Pity this generation of fans has relegated the subtle art of wicketkeeping to the sidelines in the quest of cheap thrills. Watching Dinesh Karthik concede some of the byes was just :facepalm:. Now Dinesh is more agile than Pappu/Dhoni but his refusal to follow the angle of the ball and wait till the last minute before diving in vain with both feet cemented to the ground makes me miss the genius of Saha. Watch the Australia series where he plucks out catches off Umesh's pacy deliveries flying to conventional 1st slip position, you don't even need a 1st slip with Saha as keeper truth be told. Also some of the catches he took flying towards SP and FSL off Ash/Jaddu....ordinary keepers don't even anticipate those chances. 

 

Some trolls here want to bring up his mistakes as if great batsmen and bowlers never make mistakes. But there is a difference between 1 mistake in 4 tests and 4 mistake in 1 test. Keep hating our true gems lads...bandar kya jaane adrak ka swaad. 

 

 

 

 

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Our attention by and large is fixated at just the successful catches, you also need to see how a keeper collects the ball otherwise, Saha makes it look so easy because of his fluid movement and anticipation. I don't know how he does it, may be he is just God gifted with athleticism and anticipation pertaining to the art of keeping. 

 

Remember some of his takes last year against the Lankans, apart from a couple of outstanding catches his ability to collect wayward deliveries was something I have seen no other keeper do. He didn't even need to dive for them, his footspeed reminded me of the great tennis baseliners and his anticipation was similar to that of the elite volleyers like Paes, Henman, Mischa Zverev, Feli Lopez etc.

 

The difference between him and an ordinary keeper is best illustrated in that 2nd video. Notice how he makes the adjustment for that freak ball trajectory and takes a couple of quick steps before timing his dive correctly, makes it look so easy in the end. Not just the anticipation of change in trajectory but those 2-3 nimble foot steps were so vital in taking that catch. Pappu wouldn't have even anticipated that, Dhoni wouldn't have bothered and Karthik would have dived after just one step without proper transfer of weight and cricbuzz commentary would have simply read 'ball fell short'. Saha creates chances which others don't even attempt and yet is so successful. Pappu in that 2nd SA test allowed an edge to fly between him and 1st slip and then blamed the slip catcher. It was Elgar off Bumrah IIRC and ball was going towards PP's left (natural hand)...yet out of fear of failure he didn't even make a movement towards that direction. 999 out of 1000 times (no one's perfect)  Saha would gobble such a chance up with the most economic movement. Not just PP, Dhoni has committed such blunders his whole career, in 2011 Lord's he left an easy chance fly between him and Dravid which if taken would have reduced them to 80/4.....after a while Zak limped off. Karthik despite his agility/body frame has no idea about getting into the right position, also he is such a nervous fidgety character that he fumbles the easiest of chances (hard hands, grabbing at the ball, over compensation yada yada )....he gave an exhibition of that in 2008 Lanka. Pappu gets lot of flak and rightly so, but DK's **** show there escapes scrutiny thanks to being overshadowed by Mendis' stranglehold over our famed middle order. 

 

I haven't seen enough of the youngsters but doubt we will see another Saha type pure keeper for a long time. Only people with no understanding of the game will scoff at the 2nd category of keepers, elite in their own right....crafted in the image of Alan Knott. And despite what cynics may suggest in an all time world XI, Gilchrist isn't a sure starter over Knott !!!

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19 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Our attention by and large is fixated at just the successful catches, you also need to see how a keeper collects the ball otherwise, Saha makes it look so easy because of his fluid movement and anticipation. I don't know how he does it, may be he is just God gifted with athleticism and anticipation pertaining to the art of keeping. 

 

Remember some of his takes last year against the Lankans, apart from a couple of outstanding catches his ability to collect wayward deliveries was something I have seen no other keeper do. He didn't even need to dive for them, his footspeed reminded me of the great tennis baseliners and his anticipation was similar to that of the elite volleyers like Paes, Henman, Mischa Zverev, Feli Lopez etc.

 

The difference between him and an ordinary keeper is best illustrated in that 2nd video. Notice how he makes the adjustment for that freak ball trajectory and takes a couple of quick steps before timing his dive correctly, makes it look so easy in the end. Not just the anticipation of change in trajectory but those 2-3 nimble foot steps were so vital in taking that catch. Pappu wouldn't have even anticipated that, Dhoni wouldn't have bothered and Karthik would have dived after just one step without proper transfer of weight and cricbuzz commentary would have simply read 'ball fell short'. Saha creates chances which others don't even attempt and yet is so successful. Pappu in that 2nd SA test allowed an edge to fly between him and 1st slip and then blamed the slip catcher. It was Elgar off Bumrah IIRC and ball was going towards PP's left (natural hand)...yet out of fear of failure he didn't even make a movement towards that direction. 999 out of 1000 times (no one's perfect)  Saha would gobble such a chance up with the most economic movement. Not just PP, Dhoni has committed such blunders his whole career, in 2011 Lord's he left an easy chance fly between him and Dravid which if taken would have reduced them to 80/4.....after a while Zak limped off. Karthik despite his agility/body frame has no idea about getting into the right position, also he is such a nervous fidgety character that he fumbles the easiest of chances (hard hands, grabbing at the ball, over compensation yada yada )....he gave an exhibition of that in 2008 Lanka. Pappu gets lot of flak and rightly so, but DK's **** show there escapes scrutiny thanks to being overshadowed by Mendis' stranglehold over our famed middle order. 

 

I haven't seen enough of the youngsters but doubt we will see another Saha type pure keeper for a long time. Only people with no understanding of the game will scoff at the 2nd category of keepers, elite in their own right....crafted in the image of Alan Knott. And despite what cynics may suggest in an all time world XI, Gilchrist isn't a sure starter over Knott !!!

bas kar bhai, itni tareef tou Saha ke gharwale bhi nahi karte uski

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19 hours ago, ViruDilSeKhelo said:

Saha is mentally weak, not good enough player when needed with the bat. Safe keeper though, nothing amazing. I prefer Pappu because he scores hard runs and technically sound, but I realise his keeping is poor. DK is the son of both of them, does a bit of both. Time to let Pant play or maybe Rahul as keeper...

(Emphasis mine)

Seriously?!?! Nuff said.

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17 hours ago, Gollum said:

Last thing this thread needs is Dhoni fans jumping in. That fat *er was the reason an entire generation of Indian quicks was forced to mellow down...why? Because poor old pussy couldn't take the pounding on his precious fingers. Have also seen enough of that sloth bear against the quicks and his refusal to attempt any catch beyond the range his deep rooted static feet allowed him.

 

Anybody with a functioning brain will appreciate Saha's footwork behind the stumps, for a true connoisseur of cricket there is as much beauty in it as a Kohli cover drive or Ashwin jaffa. Pity this generation of fans has relegated the subtle art of wicketkeeping to the sidelines in the quest of cheap thrills. Watching Dinesh Karthik concede some of the byes was just :facepalm:. Now Dinesh is more agile than Pappu/Dhoni but his refusal to follow the angle of the ball and wait till the last minute before diving in vain with both feet cemented to the ground makes me miss the genius of Saha. Watch the Australia series where he plucks out catches off Umesh's pacy deliveries flying to conventional 1st slip position, you don't even need a 1st slip with Saha as keeper truth be told. Also some of the catches he took flying towards SP and FSL off Ash/Jaddu....ordinary keepers don't even anticipate those chances. 

 

Some trolls here want to bring up his mistakes as if great batsmen and bowlers never make mistakes. But there is a difference between 1 mistake in 4 tests and 4 mistake in 1 test. Keep hating our true gems lads...bandar kya jaane adrak ka swaad. 

 

 

 

 

Great collection! So we see Saha making up for an absent first slip, leg slip and forward short leg. Easily worth two fielders.

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ATM any keeper will do in the remaining matches. Don't want that fidgety idiot KKD in the team. Can’t get hold of the ball and keeps jumping infrom of other players spilling the catches.

 

Hope he wears that joke of Baseball Helmet for the last time in his test career, in this match and then kick him out.

 

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As I have discussed in other threads, in Saha’s absence, giving opportunities to Pant is the better option

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They: We lost in Cape Town only and only because of Saha :hitler:, he is useless. 

Me: But he took 10 catches (Indian all time record) and failed on a pitch where most batsmen failed :dontknow:.

They: Agar Mr 360 Indian ABDV hota toh hum jeet jaate, because he is Indian ABDV and Saha is crap :giphy:.

 

 

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BUMP. Don't mean to mock Pant here because I like him and truly believe that he has it in him to develop into a world class WK bat. Hope he redeems himself in the rest of the series. 

 

Just pointing out that had Saha batted like the keepers on this tour he would have been held responsible for all ills in Indian cricket, just like how he was scapegoated after some of the losses we suffered when he was playing. Image matters, just because Saha appears meek and unassuming he is an easy target. Saha is a decent batsman, tough and gritty who may not look aesthetic but somehow manages a way...his test record is testament to that.  

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