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County stint and simplifying my action helped me, says R Ashwin

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8 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Bhajji: I love the challenge. Challenge is to bowl a challenging delivery on a challenging pitch

In these condition one has to bowl well and I have played 102 test matches for India.He is a comic relief in the comm box he only speaks for 5 minutes in a 30 minute stint.

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Just now, Switchblade said:

The irony that Ash certainly seemed to learn a lot about his game after playing county while Ishant hasn’t learnt one bit he was happy that Sussex team was giving away his jersey :facepalm:

Ishant made his debut as 19 year old when Inzamam was around? lol He is still bowling pies.

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Haha thanks for this. Ashwin confirms what I thought and mentioned in the match thread below yet we had Bhajji jabbering on about some other nonsense live on air.

 

 

On 8/1/2018 at 2:54 PM, WeStMiDz said:

 

Lol @ Bhajji. Pretty sure that isn't a carrom ball. Looks to me a new delivery Ash has developed. The release is similar but it came out totally differently. Also he just said a flipper and carrom ball are the same thing.

 

 

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1 minute ago, WeStMiDz said:

Haha thanks for this. Ashwin confirms what I thought and mentioned in the match thread below yet we had Bhajji jabbering on about some other nonsense live on air.

 

 

On 8/1/2018 at 2:54 PM, WeStMiDz said:

 

Lol @ Bhajji. Pretty sure that isn't a carrom ball. Looks to me a new delivery Ash has developed. The release is similar but it came out totally differently. Also he just said a flipper and carrom ball are the same thing.

 

 

Bhajji is not exactly a smart cookie lol He is embarrassing himself.  Jay Root :phehe:

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Just now, vvvslaxman said:

Bhajji is not exactly a smart cookie lol He is embarrassing himself.  Jay Root :phehe:

I can completely understand him not being able to articulate himself properly but he is a seasoned cricketer. How can he not know what ball is what?!

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https://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket/india-vs-england-county-stint-and-simplifying-my-action-helped-me-says-r-ashwin-5288327/

“When I came here for county stint last year, first thing I realised is the speed with which the bowlers bowl here,” Ashwin, who had played for county side Worcestershire, told BCCI.tv.

“The conditions here are extremely slow even on the first day. You can have bit of bounce but if the pace is not right then the batsman get a lot of time to play the same ball in the front and back foot, that is something I realised very quickly when I came here.”

“Even in the last 12-18 months I spend a lot of time playing club cricket. I was working on simplifying my actions a bit and make sure I can get more body into the ball, try create something in the air and it worked really well,” he said.

“We have always spoken about taking the wicket out of the equation and specially with how good the wickets are, the modern day batsman actually enjoy playing in this wicket. I think to a larger extent that particular thing of doing something in the air is something I consciously worked on,” he said.

“But what happens when you are trying to do that something in the air is that the body sometimes gives up, you are touch short or touch fuller. So in one of those pursuits, I thought simplifying my action was important. Because I went through a very good phase of bowling with that particular action and hence a lot of bad habits had crept in with my arms coming in, so those are the things I had to really work on against my own will.”

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2 minutes ago, Pollack said:

Yes Ashwin has been good. But honestly he comes across oversmart in most of his interviews. 

Tbf humility is overrated. Both Ashwin and Kohli want to be the best. When they don't do well their ego is hurt . They want to shut critics and haters. 

 

There will still be ppl who would say virat was dropped twice and 1st day English wicket was spinning for Ashwin. They will just continue to work hard and keep.proving everyone wrong

 

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33 minutes ago, R.D forever said:

Did u even see the match?? :phehe: only a cricket noob would say it was a spinning wicket. 

After seeing the dismissals of Cook in both innings, only a cricket noob will say it was not helping spinners.  Such dismissals are only possible on spinning tracks.  

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10 hours ago, WeStMiDz said:

I can completely understand him not being able to articulate himself properly but he is a seasoned cricketer. How can he not know what ball is what?!

he is a jealous guy, you can gauge that from his tweets, he thinks he bowled to some super human batsman on flattest of wkts, otherwise he would have taken 1000s of wkts

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3 minutes ago, motomaverick said:

Why is Ashwin giving a detailed explanation of how he bowls each variation? This will only help the opposition in figuring him out. :facepalm:

ashwin loves to give gyaan... even more so when he does well... remember last year's CT? was hanging around after the SA game... nowhere to be seen otherwise:phehe:

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6 minutes ago, sriniwu said:

ashwin loves to give gyaan... even more so when he does well... remember last year's CT? was hanging around after the SA game... nowhere to be seen otherwise:phehe:

true, would make a great commentator though

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15 minutes ago, motomaverick said:

Why is Ashwin giving a detailed explanation of how he bowls each variation? This will only help the opposition in figuring him out. :facepalm:

Mechanism doesnt matter.

 

What the ball does is what matters and England already hav footage for every delivery of his, as evidenced from this short interview. 

 

They even picked up the footage of him jamming the ball into his hand. 

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13 minutes ago, motomaverick said:

Why is Ashwin giving a detailed explanation of how he bowls each variation? This will only help the opposition in figuring him out. :facepalm:

as if opposition dont knw when they see video tapes.........everyones tells it

knowing it n playing its diff

 

As sehwag said once everyone kept watching mendis tapes for hours n i didnt, i went out n smashed him

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29 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

After seeing the dismissals of Cook in both innings, only a cricket noob will say it was not helping spinners.  Such dismissals are only possible on spinning tracks.  

There is a diff between turn and a spinning wicket. Just because some balls turned does not make it a spinning wicket. The wicket was also a result of a setup to draw cook forward first. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Pollack said:

Yes Ashwin has been good. But honestly he comes across oversmart in most of his interviews. 

He is a smart, well read and a confident guy. He speaks immaculate English and has clarity of thought. That cannot be taken as being over smart brash. What would you call Pandya if you call Ashwin over smart? 

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54 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

After seeing the dismissals of Cook in both innings, only a cricket noob will say it was not helping spinners.  Such dismissals are only possible on spinning tracks.  

That ball looked like slow medium outswinger, it did not look like an off spinner.

 

Ashwin has bowled slow swinging deliveries occasionally in T20s before like Collin Miller.

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28 minutes ago, R.D forever said:

There is a diff between turn and a spinning wicket. Just because some balls turned does not make it a spinning wicket. The wicket was also a result of a setup to draw cook forward first. 

 

 

English commies themselves say there isn't much turn here but no....we Asians have other thoughts. The moment a single ball turns, we have to declare it as a turner.

 

Of course, there is some turn....slow turn (not always tho)....which may get pronounced on Day 3 or 4 or 5, but there wasn't much on Day 1 and 2. Turn from rough doesn't matter.


Initial cook dismissal was due to moisture content and a new ball. Later in the day, the turn got much lesser.

 

Lyon turned it nicely during Ashes. I suppose Aussie pitches are turners too. lol.

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14 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said:

He is a smart, well read and a confident guy. He speaks immaculate English and has clarity of thought. That cannot be taken as being over smart brash. What would you call Pandya if you call Ashwin over smart? 

pandya - wannabe:phehe:

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19 minutes ago, MechEng said:

That ball looked like slow medium outswinger, it did not look like an off spinner.

 

Ashwin has bowled slow swinging deliveries occasionally in T20s before like Collin Miller.

it was turn and not swing.

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15 minutes ago, sensible-indian said:

English commies themselves say there isn't much turn here but no....we Asians have other thoughts. The moment a single ball turns, we have to declare it as a turner.

 

Of course, there is some turn....slow turn (not always tho)....which may get pronounced on Day 3 or 4 or 5, but there wasn't much on Day 1 and 2. Turn from rough doesn't matter.


Initial cook dismissal was due to moisture content and a new ball. Later in the day, the turn got much lesser.

 

Lyon turned it nicely during Ashes. I suppose Aussie pitches are turners too. lol.

Ball turning from the rough and ball turning from the middle of the pitch are two different things.  In Australia, ball can turn from rough which Ashwin struggles with as he cant pitch the ball in rough with any consistency. 

 

What commentators say cannot be taken as gospel.  They were also saying England will need 500 against this Indian batting line up.  I have watched every tour of England since 2007 and never seen spinners turning the ball in the second over with the new ball.

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5 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Ball turning from the rough and ball turning from the middle of the pitch are two different things.  In Australia, ball can turn from rough which Ashwin struggles with as he cant pitch the ball in rough with any consistency. 

 

What commentators say cannot be taken as gospel.  They were also saying England will need 500 against this Indian batting line up.  I have watched every tour of England since 2007 and never seen spinners turning the ball in the second over with the new ball.

1. Lyon was turning it for lefties too. Troubling Englishmen plenty. I never talked about him turning from rough only.

 

2. Yes, agreed commies cannot be taken as gospel but here majority including opposition commies saying it. Plus we can see what's happening in the pitch.

 

3. How many spinners bowled with a new ball in England and didn't get turn? Of course, heat wave is helping a bit, but you are making it seem like this is a turner which it ain't. Maybe it will be today but it sure wasn't last 2 days.

 

4. Also if this is a turner, why isn't Ashwin's sidespin deliveries are getting zero to no turn while only his overspin deliveries turn? Also why isn't Rashid (who along with Kuldeep is the world's best in extracting turn out of a pitch) couldn't turn most deliveries?

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3 hours ago, motomaverick said:

Why is Ashwin giving a detailed explanation of how he bowls each variation? This will only help the opposition in figuring him out. :facepalm:

Most team (esp gora ones) have dedicated personnel and academicians/research groups whose only job is to get video footage of opponent players and analyze every minute detail, it is called scouting. Even Ashwin's county games would have had ECB scouts and his county mates would have been interrogated.....this is international cricket, there is no secret. 

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