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That will be Iyer the showboating by him is just :facepalm:
I don't think so DD is gonna leave him in the coming few years.
Prithvi is honestly the cheaper option.
Plus RoFat will be there for another 10 yrs so fret not

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Never the case with BCCI blooding in young cricketers. This is just like hoping for a miracle.

 

India has always done well when it had brought in fresh legs to the team. Case in point, Bumrah, KL Rahul and many more. 

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Let's stick with D-V-R as openers for this overseas cycle. Too harsh to drop the kid in middle of a minefield now.

 

When next home cycle starts we should start and continue with him and Rahul for 2 yrs. Don't want Vijay and dhawan to score easy centuries at home and continue in next overseas cycle

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The other guy I would like to be groomed and fast track is abhishek sharma and he could be the spinning all-rounder we are looking for, he looked comfortable against pace  can hit the ball long, Plus looks to have a  solid technique, a brilliant fielder and good spinner as well. 

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It's true he is talented but why are all of them are from Mumbai. It's not that hard for him to get into the team when we have Gavaskar and Manjrekar rooting for them in the commentary. 

The same is true for Delhi players because of you know who. 

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47 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

At what age did Kohli play his 1st ODI?

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Nice. Lets choose format which fits your argument.

 

Do check at what age Kohli played his 1st test. 

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5 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

what about Tendulkar then?

Nice. Lets go back 30yrs which was a different era all together to create a narrative. 

 

In pro wrestling there are face and heel; we already know Dhoni, Shastri are heel on this forum. Now that Rahul is no longer the face lets create one in the form of prithvi. 

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28 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said:

Nice. Lets go back 30yrs which was a different era all together to create a narrative. 

 

In pro wrestling there are face and heel; we already know Dhoni, Shastri are heel on this forum. Now that Rahul is no longer the face lets create one in the form of prithvi. 

We just saw a 20 year old Sam Curran winning the game for England and Shaw has just played in England for India A and scored runs.  Moreover, what about Rahul? he is now playing and should get whole series.  I don't think people expected him to do any miracles especially against the likes of Broadandu in these conditions.  He will for sure get better with this exposure. For me, it is all about identifying the right personnel and backing them.  And that was for Rahul's inclusion in ODI side, not just tests.

 

Regarding SRT, dont think test cricket was any less competitive then. he also faced bowlers like Akram and Waqar on his debut though England and Australian bowling attacks were not great in those days.

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21 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

We just saw a 20 year old Sam Curran winning the game for England and Shaw has just played in England for India A and scored runs.  Moreover, what about Rahul? he is now playing and should get whole series.  I don't think people expected him to do any miracles especially against the likes of Broadandu in these conditions.  He will for sure get better with this exposure. For me, it is all about identifying the right personnel and backing them.  And that was for Rahul's inclusion in ODI side, not just tests.

 

Regarding SRT, dont think test cricket was any less competitive then. he also faced bowlers like Akram and Waqar on his debut though England and Australian bowling attacks were not great in those days.

Its amusing the length you would go to bash Rohit yet defend Rahul in test cricket.  Why this love for Prithiv who isnt even in squad, given up on Pant ? also sam curran is playing at home, while not 20 but both kuldeep and hardik were 21-22 when they made their test debut.

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46 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said:

Its amusing the length you would go to bash Rohit yet defend Rahul in test cricket.  Why this love for Prithiv who isnt even in squad, given up on Pant ? also sam curran is playing at home, while not 20 but both kuldeep and hardik were 21-22 when they made their test debut.

where did I bash Rohit? Rahul has 3 of his 4 test 100s overseas. How many Rohit has overseas? Also, Rohit himself has given up on test cricket. Pant is a wicketkeeper, who is already in the squad while Shaw is an opener and Shaw talk is going on because our openers are failing and he is an openers who just scored runs in England with India A.

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1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

where did I bash Rohit? Rahul has 3 of his 4 test 100s overseas. How many Rohit has overseas? Also, Rohit himself has given up on test cricket. Pant is a wicketkeeper, who is already in the squad while Shaw is an opener and Shaw talk is going on because our openers are failing and he is an openers who just scored runs in England with India A.

 My point was slightly different. There is a set of people who always find someone or the other to bash using any kind of logic. Till last week Kohli/Shastri were hammered for not backing Rahul, 6 months back it was Pujara. Now that we have lost first test new muse is Prithvi. How long before we see threads like Prithvi savior of Indian cricket is on bench because Kohli is jealous that he will surpass kohli as batsman. 

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5 hours ago, vayuu1 said:

The other guy I would like to be groomed and fast track is abhishek sharma and he could be the spinning all-rounder we are looking for, he looked comfortable against pace  can hit the ball long, Plus looks to have a  solid technique, a brilliant fielder and good spinner as well. 

   May be t20 as of now. Bowling is not there yet. W Sundar would be 1st choice i think even in T20

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5 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said:

 My point was slightly different. There is a set of people who always find someone or the other to bash using any kind of logic. Till last week Kohli/Shastri were hammered for not backing Rahul, 6 months back it was Pujara. Now that we have lost first test new muse is Prithvi. How long before we see threads like Prithvi savior of Indian cricket is on bench because Kohli is jealous that he will surpass kohli as batsman. 

forums have every kind of thread or discussions.  Sometimes,  they are valid, sometimes not.  Conspiracies will always be there.   Kohli and Shastri not backing Rahul was certainly wrong.  Same with playing Rohit and Raina ahead of Pujara in tests. Yes, both may fail but that does not mean the asking for Rahul or Pujara's selection was wrong.  Important thing is to take right decision, identifying right personnel, and make right selections that is in the hand of captain and coach, result is not. The may fail as well. 

 

There is no guarantee of success but selections should be based on who have the most chances of succeeding in overseas tests. Players get criticized when they fail and praised when they do well.  It is a cycle that is going on since eternal.   There is a reason teams have highly qualified scouts to identify right players, scouts who understand cricket and its requirements at top level.  John Wright was MI scout when he scouted 19 year old Bumrah playing in SMA trophy.

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Every team gives atleast one talented young player chance to play Test matches... you never know who can click.

Sachin got his chance at 16 years...

I’m not saying others are as talented as Sachin.. but how can the Captain & team management continue like this with same washed up players year after year?

It was heartening to see a 20 year old Sam Curran kick the collective soggy arses of the rockstar washed up players..,

I don’t have any expectations from the Captain and his cheerleader... hope atleast England keeps giving chances to such fine young players like Sam...

For Indian under 19 talented cricketers the usual wait time is atleast 4-5 years...what a shame...

This WAGs club influencing team selection is making me :mad:

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4 minutes ago, asterix said:

Every team gives atleast one talented young player chance to play Test matches... you never know who can click.

Sachin got his chance at 16 years...

I’m not saying others are as talented as Sachin.. but how can the Captain & team management continue like this with same washed up players year after year?

It was heartening to see a 20 year old Sam Curran kick the collective soggy arses of the rockstar washed up players..,

I don’t have any expectations from the Captain and his cheerleader... hope atleast England keeps giving chances to such fine young players like Sam...

For Indian under 19 talented cricketers the usual wait time is atleast 4-5 years...what a shame...

This WAGs club influencing team selection is making me :mad:

you will be surprised to know that we have just one fast bowled debuting for us in test cricket since Pankaj Singh on England tour in 2014 against Aus and that is Bumrah.  So just one new fast bowler debuted in 4 years.

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Think he needs to look at 2 things to be even more ready :- 

1. His play to balls on off and outside - 

  >    As he prefers a little backing away to leg side to enable him to drive through offside , gets beaten quite ofen when ball moves away on good length from offstump.

 > Also big indippers will trouble him due to this stance .

 > throws his hands at out side off deliveries . (Mind you.. can score a lot with that shot a la Veeru if ball is not doing much as he seems to  have good hand -eye co-ord ..)

2. He will be targetted with pacy short stuff to his rib cage . This will be the case in Aus , SA for sure  with a legside  trap. 

    How he copes with that will be interesting to watch .

   I think he must be working already on that . Being not so good a hooker , he needs to have an attacking option developed to counter this. He won't succeed if he does only defence against such bowling.  

    -  move a bit towards leg and hit over point, cover point -  Sewhag was so good at it .

    -  Play the Ramp if ball has height.

     -  Develop pull shot front of square .

     - Play it down to leg to take a single. 

     Based on the line of the ball and height at which he is meeting them , he can choose to execute any of these options .

     If leg side is packed , hit it on off . 

     If offside is blocked , use pull or play down to leg side . 

     he already is hitting any shortish balls around  outside off stump over offiside field .   

   Just practice hard for 2nd issue another 6 months and be ready with an attacking option . If he can fetch a four every over vs such attack ,bowlers will then have to really think. 

  First set of issues more of descipline and shot selection which he can overcome once into test mode. 

   

 

 

 

 

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i am very interested how he prepares in another 6 months to face shortish stuff aimed at his rib cage . 

If he specificayy

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