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Michael Holding recommends  that team needs a proper batsman at that position. Pandya is just not that good. Here is the complete article.

 

http://www.cricketcountry.com/news/india-vs-england-cheteshwar-pujara-too-good-a-player-to-be-dropped-michael-holding-732630

 

 

He is definitely overrated.

 

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Michael Holding recommends  that team needs a proper batsman at that position. Pandya is just not that good. Here is the complete article.
 
http://www.cricketcountry.com/news/india-vs-england-cheteshwar-pujara-too-good-a-player-to-be-dropped-michael-holding-732630
 
 
He is definitely overrated.
 
Our proper batsman are worse.At no 7 better off playing all-rounder.
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Just now, CG said:
Just now, Khota said:
Michael Holding recommends  that team needs a proper batsman at that position. Pandya is just not that good. Here is the complete article.
 
http://www.cricketcountry.com/news/india-vs-england-cheteshwar-pujara-too-good-a-player-to-be-dropped-michael-holding-732630
 
 
He is definitely overrated.
 

Our proper batsman are worse.At no 7 better off playing all-rounder.

He isn't an A/R if he's not picking up wickets, and if he's not picking up wickets in Eng or SA, imagine what he'll do in Aus.

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Just now, CG said:
Just now, R!TTER said:
He isn't an A/R if he's not picking up wickets, and if he's not picking up wickets in Eng or SA, imagine what he'll do in Aus.

He picked up Imp wickets in sa.He will do well when the ball swings.

Only 1 innings IIRC, had the worst avg of all seamers by the end of it.

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Malum hai......who claimed he is next kapil dev

What is urge to find next kapil n sachin........such players comes once in a while 

3 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

He isn't an A/R if he's not picking up wickets, and if he's not picking up wickets in Eng or SA, imagine what he'll do in Aus.

Did he even bowl much

His role is suppose to be fill those 15 overs so bowlers can have rest. Something we didnt have in 2013 Sa n Nz tour which resulted in Zak breaking down, shami loosing his pace, n ishant kept getting worse

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Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Malum hai......who claimed he is next kapil dev

What is urge to find next kapil n sachin........such players comes once in a while 

Did he even bowl much

His role is suppose to be fill those 15 overs so bowlers can have rest. Something we didnt have in 2013 Sa n Nz tour which resulted in Zak breaking down, shami loosing his pace, n ishant kept getting worse

So the argument goes round and round, like forever and always.

 

He's a batting allrounder -> don't expect him to pick wickets -> he didn't bowl much so can't blame him -> he's just a relief bowler -> hence A/R :dance:

 

The fact is we need 5 wicket taking options away from home, ideally 2 or 3 of them should be able to hold their own with the bat. If Lords is a flat track, pretty sure we'll need more than 3.5 bowlers but then most will still defend the A/R tag.

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14 minutes ago, CG said:
23 minutes ago, Khota said:
Michael Holding recommends  that team needs a proper batsman at that position. Pandya is just not that good. Here is the complete article.
 
http://www.cricketcountry.com/news/india-vs-england-cheteshwar-pujara-too-good-a-player-to-be-dropped-michael-holding-732630
 
 
He is definitely overrated.
 

Our proper batsman are worse.At no 7 better off playing all-rounder.

He can hit some but I am not sure he can take any wickets.

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3 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

So the argument goes round and round, like forever and always.

 

He's a batting allrounder -> don't expect him to pick wickets -> he didn't bowl much so can't blame him -> he's just a relief bowler -> hence A/R :dance:

 

The fact is we need 5 wicket taking options away from home, ideally 2 or of them should be able to hold their own with the bat.

People will come up with any excuse to justify his slot.

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3 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

So the argument goes round and round, like forever and always.

 

He's a batting allrounder -> don't expect him to pick wickets -> he didn't bowl much so can't blame him -> he's just a relief bowler -> hence A/R :dance:

 

The fact is we need 5 wicket taking options away from home, ideally 2 or 3 of them should be able to hold their own with the bat. If Lords is a flat track, pretty sure we'll need more than 3.5 bowlers but then most will still defend the A/R tag.

DO i have explain again 

On 8/4/2018 at 1:37 AM, Ankit_sharma03 said:

simple - no rocket science

In 2015 Sl tor virat said they played binny coz they need 10-15 overs from someone so they can rest their fast bowlers...n when they found he was an upgrade to binny 

We dnt have the luxury of sachin, sehwag, ganguly now to bowl a few overs n give rest to main bowlers 

So pandya comes in handy

 

Then u also need some cushion in batting , so the need is both n he comes in 

 

N what bad has he done...scored a 90+ in Sa where everyone was struggling...scored 100 in SL, applied here in 1st innings. Gave cruicial breakthroughs in Sa in one test .....

 

The reason our team is struggling is not performing is becoz of specialist not performing , not becoz of pandya .

 

Lets not forget we won in 2015 SL tour with bits n pieces binny

2014 lords with binny n he helped drew us the 1st test in eng

 

Pandya avg 35 in test with bat , more imp he made a very 90+ in Sa......

 

Their is no confusion regd his role to us or team mnmgt

Someone who can cushion our batting a bit also give overs so give our main bowlers a a rest overseas

 

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9 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Malum hai......who claimed he is next kapil dev

What is urge to find next kapil n sachin........such players comes once in a while 

Did he even bowl much

His role is suppose to be fill those 15 overs so bowlers can have rest. Something we didnt have in 2013 Sa n Nz tour which resulted in Zak breaking down, shami loosing his pace, n ishant kept getting worse

Now we are  redefining the role of an all rounder. Let me understand it is OK with you if he takes no wickets?

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Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said:

DO i have explain again 

 

Their is no confusion regd his role to us or team mnmgt

Someone who can cushion our batting a bit also give overs so give our main bowlers a a rest overseas

 

You need to wake up and smell the coffee, his 20 or 30 per innings is simply not good enough. We can easily slot in Jadeja or Kuldeep for him, even they have potential with the bat - Jadeja has a proven track record. They can definitely do no worse than him with the ball, and we need wickets especially lower order.

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4 minutes ago, Khota said:

Now we are  redefining the role of an all rounder. Let me understand it is OK with you if he takes no wickets?

Absolutely 

 

  • his job is rest our pace bowlers, I dnt want them to break down like they did in 2013-14 overseas due to lack of support bowler
  • i knew he ll take wkts if he ll bowl more , so i hve no doubts about him 

 

The problem isnt 20 wkts for this team as of now , the problem is making runs 

 

HE took wkts of elgar, Makram , Faf.....n these arent lower order batsman so dnt tell me he cnt take wkts

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Cricketers like Holding hype players like Hardik Pandya. Who is comparing him with Kapil ? Why would someone with 10 test be compared with someone who played 12x tests more than him. 

 

It is obvious to look for all rounder. If he does good it will help us to balance the team. If he flops then we can always replace him with specialist batsman or specialist bowler.

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Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Absolutely 

 

  • his job is rest our pace bowlers, I dnt want them to break down like they did in 2013-14 overseas due to lack of support bowler
  • i knew he ll take wkts if he ll bowl more , so i hve no doubts about him 

 

The problem isnt 20 wkts for this team as of now , the problem is making runs 

Ben Stokes (4th innings match winning spell) and Sam Curran (3rd innings slogging tailender) say hi.

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2 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

You need to wake up and smell the coffee, his 20 or 30 per innings is simply not good enough. We can easily slot in Jadeja or Kuldeep for him, even they have potential with the bat - Jadeja has a proven track record. They can definitely do no worse than him with the ball, and we need wickets especially lower order.

Kuldeep n jadeja cant even score that 

Jadeja is the worst batsman in these condition ..........

 

U need batting not bowling so u need to wakeup n check the scoreboard n check the match....coz he showed more application then any batsman 

these 20-30.....1st get the batsman who cud even score these many 

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2 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

Ben Stokes (4th innings match winning spell) and Sam Curran (3rd innings slogging tailender) say hi.

Pandya 90+ in SA says hi 

 

Every players plays a diff role for his team, we sll surely like pandya to reach stokes level but it ll take time......stokes himself has struggled in earlier days. Remeber last time when he India came his score were 0,0,0 .....surely pandya isnt doing worse

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58 minutes ago, Khota said:

He hardly gets to bowl because he looks the least threatening.

 

His role as a bowler is to rest the main bowlers and keep them fresh.

 

And we are reaping benefits of that. Our main bowlers are fresh and picking 20 wickets in every away test we have played in the last 2 years.

 

 

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