Michael Holding - Pandya is not next Kapil Dev

[Khota]

42 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

please tell me u dnt watch test cricket, coz @Khota doesnt we all knw

Coz u have no idea what happ in 2013-14 with 4 bowlers n how team mnmgt decided to have this 5th option starting with binny n pandya 

If u didnt see..............go check those test matches

Buddy I watch highlights.

[zen]

Just now, Khota said:

Buddy I watch highlights.

[Ankit_sharma03]

Just now, Khota said:

Buddy I watch highlights.

extremely wrong way to analyze a match

[sandeep]

57 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

Ben Stokes (4th innings match winning spell) and Sam Curran (3rd innings slogging tailender) say hi.

You don't get readymade Ben Stokes, especially when 'home' conditions chew up and spit out pace bowling allrounders at the FC level worse than yesterday's newspaper.  

 

What did the great Ben Stokes do with the ball in the test series in INdia? 

 

Pandya may not be Kapil or Stokes, but he's a useful piece that adds value.  Just because a player isn't 10/10, doesn't mean that you nullify his 7/10 value.

[Khota]

5 minutes ago, zen said:

As they say - Ravan bhi kabhi sadhu ka bhash leta hai

As they say - you spend too much time on the net.

[Khota]

3 minutes ago, sandeep said:

You don't get readymade Ben Stokes, especially when 'home' conditions chew up and spit out pace bowling allrounders at the FC level worse than yesterday's newspaper.  

 

What did the great Ben Stokes do with the ball in the test series in INdia? 

 

Pandya may not be Kapil or Stokes, but he's a useful piece that adds value.  Just because a player isn't 10/10, doesn't mean that you nullify his 7/10 value.

Is that same as bits and pieces?

[sandeep]

13 minutes ago, zen said:

Now we are discussing what Holding thinks .... a desperate bunch, the anti-Pandya brigade is

Its the sunk cost fallacy. They are too committed to the 'Pandya is useless' theory, and won't back down even if there's evidence to the contrary. 

 

Stubborn and Stupid start with the same 3 letters....

[Khota]

4 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

extremely wrong way to analyze a match

I think I have figured out Pandya better than you. Maybe try my approach.

[Khota]

3 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Its the sunk cost fallacy. They are too committed to the 'Pandya is useless' theory, and won't back down even if there's evidence to the contrary. 

 

Stubborn and Stupid start with the same 3 letters....

Pandya had plenty of cances to prove us wrong.

[express bowling]

1 minute ago, R!TTER said:

Those weren't chance less innings, he was dropped multiple times but more importantly he failed in 3 out of 4 innings when the series was still alive. Though he did look the best Indian bat throughout the series.

 

No drops in the 51 ...  1 drop in the 40.

 

The 3rd test was very important too as a 0 -3 result  would have been far worse than 1 - 2.

 

Most importantly, we are discussing whether it is possible for good batters to score in South Africa.  Kohli scored a 119 and 90 odd on the last tour in 2013 on a lively track  ( in the first innings  ) too.  Rahane had a 90 odd and Pujara a century.   It is possible to score in SA.

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, Khota said:

I think I have figured out Pandya better than you. Maybe try my approach.

sometimes let others say 

Oh u were right instead patting ur own back

[R!TTER]

Just now, sandeep said:

You don't get readymade Ben Stokes, especially when 'home' conditions chew up and spit out pace bowling allrounders at the FC level worse than yesterday's newspaper.  

 

What did the great Ben Stokes do with the ball in the test series in INdia? 

 

Pandya may not be Kapil or Stokes, but he's a useful piece that adds value.  Just because a player isn't 10/10, doesn't mean that you nullify his 7/10 value.

Ben Stokes wasn't made in England he was forged in Aus, for a pace A/R not picking up wickets is SA, Eng is akin to a spinner not picking up wickets in India.

 

His value in this current team is 2 or 3 out of 10 at best. For someone who's not picking up regular wickets in SA or Eng, does none think he might simply not be good enough. Why does everyone assume he'll automatically pick up wickets if he bowls more, do you know more than the rest of us? Why do you think Koach doesn't have the confidence to give him more than 10 overs even on these kinds of surfaces?

[express bowling]

9 minutes ago, Khota said:

I did not know that was the role of an allrounder. I learn something new everyday.

 

That is a very effective role for a batting all-rounder who comes at 6 or 7.

 

His primary job is to score runs based on which he should be gauged.

Edited August 5, 2018 by express bowling

[Ankit_sharma03]

18 minutes ago, zen said:

Now we are discussing what Holding thinks .... a desperate bunch, the anti-Pandya brigade is

holding is an old generation cricketer like bedi.......

Just like those uncles who keeps saying- humare zamane men ye hota tha 

 

Zamana badal gaya hai pyaare 

 

If u see that interview, Sangakara completely disagreed with n said - Dnt remove pandya he gives balance to ur side 

[Straight Drive]

1 minute ago, Khota said:

I think I have figured out Pandya better than you. Maybe try my approach.

Do you really think batting average of 35 is bad for current Indian  all rounder ?

 

 Shikhar, Vijay, K L Rahul, Ajinkya are all averaging between 40 to 43 in test career. 

[Khota]

4 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

Ben Stokes wasn't made in England he was forged in Aus, for a pace A/R not picking up wickets is SA, Eng is akin to a spinner not picking up wickets in India.

 

His value in this current team is 2 or 3 out of 10 at best. For someone who's not picking up regular wickets in SA or Eng, does none think he might simply not be good enough. Why does everyone assume he'll automatically pick up wickets if he bowls more, do you know more than the rest of us? Why do you think Koach doesn't have the confidence to give him more than 10 overs even on these kinds of surfaces?

Ask them. They know everything.

[Khota]

5 minutes ago, Straight Drive said:

Do you really think batting average of 35 is bad for current Indian  all rounder ?

 

 Shikhar, Vijay, K L Rahul, Ajinkya are all averaging between 40 to 43 in test career. 

35 is a great average if takes a wkt or two.

[rkt.india]

Don't think Pandya will be Kapil. He can be better as a batsman. 

[Lala]

Im pretty sure Pandya's fate will be ended similar to Irfan Pathan's.  

 

[R!TTER]

Just now, Lala said:

Im pretty sure Pandya's fate will be ended similar to Irfan Pathan's.  

 

Pathan was much better than any of these potential A/R 

 

He chewed your side up in 2004 almost singlehandedly, if it weren't for Chappal we might've had a genuine great playing for well over a decade. Sadly he also didn't bowl a single ball in SA, NZ or England.