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Please drop Pandya to maintain Test cricket’s sanctity.


Pandya is the next......  

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7 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Absolutely false.  JY's limitations have been exposed after his century against England - on both sides of the ball.  And given that Ashwin is in the side, playing a second off-spinner, and a limited 'support' one at that, makes zero sense.  

 

Nobody's arguing against the fact that Pandya is not quite the finished product as far as test allrounder is concerned. He's way short.  But he's the best of that type available for Team India selection.  And given the test squad in question, his selection has reasonable merit - merit that should be acknowledged even if you disagree with his selection.  

There's no merit of playing Pandya in Subcontinental tests. Aswin and Jadeja can contribute with bat. We can play an Kuldeep Yadav to develop him. It's unfortunate that Pandya is a sure starter in Tests for India even though he has proved so little.

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2 minutes ago, swastikpanda2 said:

There's no merit of playing Pandya in Subcontinental tests. Aswin and Jadeja can contribute with bat. We can play an Kuldeep Yadav to develop him. It's unfortunate that Pandya is a sure starter in Tests for India even though he has proved so little.

Who is arguing for him to play in subcon tests unless as a prelude to a tour to SA/Eng?  Nobody. 

 

Heck if Bhuvi was fit, I'd be arguing against him playing in the 1st choice XI even in England.  If we had Karthik, Ash and Bhuvi at 6, 7 and 8, he'd be running drinks.  

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3 minutes ago, swastikpanda2 said:

There are many Pandya fans. Kohli and his Team management are the biggest one. I am against of the fact that Pandya is a sure starter in the team, which he shouldn't be.

Wouldn't have played him if Bhuvi wasn't unfit.

Well that's a bit of a walkback from your previous foaming at the mouth post.  But fine.  

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2 hours ago, Global.Baba said:

Infact England faced this problem in Ashes with Moeen Ali who is infact  a much better batsman/bowler than Pandya. He ruined their balance because he was not good enough against short pitch stuff and Lyon was outbowling him. England would have done better with an out and out specialist.

 

Sometimes playing an allrounder just for the sake of it won't help.

Just saw this, and have to call out a false causation.  England could afford to drop Mo because they already had 2 bonafide stud allrounders in Stokes and Bairstow.  If England had Ben Foakes keeping wicket for them, and no Stokes, you'd bet your bottom Pound that they would fit Moeen Ali in their XI.  At Lords, they are likely to, in spite of Sam Curran and Chris Woakes offering plenty of batting depth in the XI.  

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8 hours ago, Straight Drive said:

One way is make him bat by dropping a specialist batsman  as he is scoring more runs than them. And then pick one specialist bowler.

But why play an extra bowler? 5th specialist bowler isn't needed at all. No team plays with five specialist bowlers. Test cricket is a game of four bowlers.

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2 hours ago, sandeep said:

And you agree with everything Gavaskar has to say about cricket?

Not at all. All he said and I agree is that in 100 years India just had one allrounder. I think I said that one year back. If he agrees with me I am not going to dispute that.

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Showcasing improvements, Haha! This is the showcase. 
 
A guy who can’t play proper forward defensive strokes and bowls utter tripe with no swing or controlled seam movement at the age of 25 has zero upside. 
 
There are a couple of non-negotiable things in Test cricket:
 
1. Batting: You must have at the minimum a proper forward defense. Successful batsmen who were attacking and weren’t sure of their off stump always, like Sehwag, Gilchrist, Kapil, all had a solid forward defense.
 
2. Bowling: Some kind of movement. This guy is gun barrel straight. He doesn’t swing the ball, neither does he hit the deck hard, and neither does he have the height to produce unpredictable bounce.
 
There are no cricketing tools to build on here. If he works on his game, he can possibly emulate Syed Abid Ali. Don’t see him crossing Madan Lal, Binny, or Prabhakar.


This is what happens when you don't watch cricket.

What are you talking about he has decent defense.You can score 90 in SA with out Defense.He looked better defensively than most top order batsman last test.

Secondly he has a good Inswinger,He had few good spells in SA.

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2 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

We don't need a Kapil Dev. We need a Symonds type batsman who can bowl a bit which Pandya does.

  

Regarding defense, you must have missed his batting in second innings. It was assured as Kohli's.

Symonds type of batsman is only good for interim period and not a long term prospect for test cricket. Symonds type of allrounder is very good for ODIs and T20Is without a doubt but in test cricket, such a guy is just OK in tests but I would like to replace him in the long run with either a proper batsman or bowling allrounder. 

 

I really wished that it was as assured as Kohli's. If he would have taken us through the finish line, I don't think anyone on ICF would have disagreed with your line there. I know it is just one innings and a batsman can get out any time, still I did not feel that he had it in him to take us there when the eventual dismissal happened. I wished that he did it and his image and our trust in him would be at a different level. 

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5 hours ago, swastikpanda2 said:

There's no merit of playing Pandya in Subcontinental tests. Aswin and Jadeja can contribute with bat. We can play an Kuldeep Yadav to develop him. It's unfortunate that Pandya is a sure starter in Tests for India even though he has proved so little.

Pandya plays as a 6th batsman. Why are you ignoring this. Already has a 100 and a 70 odd in SC test matches. Who you want to play in his place in SC?

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5 minutes ago, sarcastic said:

Symonds type of batsman is only good for interim period and not a long term prospect for test cricket. Symonds type of allrounder is very good for ODIs and T20Is without a doubt but in test cricket, such a guy is just OK in tests but I would like to replace him in the long run with either a proper batsman or bowling allrounder. 

 

I really wished that it was as assured as Kohli's. If he would have taken us through the finish line, I don't think anyone on ICF would have disagreed with your line there. I know it is just one innings and a batsman can get out any time, still I did not feel that he had it in him to take us there when the eventual dismissal happened. I wished that he did it and his image and our trust in him would be at a different level. 

If he had someone to support who knows he could have done that.

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