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Please drop Pandya to maintain Test cricket’s sanctity.

Pandya is the next......  

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4 minutes ago, zen said:

In a way, he is currently similar to an Afridi, but that may not necessarily be a bad thing depending up on how the team's composition is 

Different perspectives.

I would prefer a batting all rounder/ bowling all rounder over a pure all-rounder. 

 

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2 minutes ago, swastikpanda2 said:

Different perspectives.

I would prefer a batting all rounder/ bowling all rounder over a pure all-rounder. 

 

If we have compelling choices, we can go by our preferences .... and if we had Sobers or Hadlee, there would be no such debates :lol:

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32 minutes ago, putrevus said:

They picked up two wickets thats how well they were bowling, 

 

In the very short run, good bowling does not always fetch wickets.

 

That 1 hour with the 2nd new ball was very challenging in that test.

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One other problem is that people look at the scorecard and comment with the benefit of hindsight. But before the game, we do not know if an extra bowler or a batsman would be needed. Who would have thought Ashwin would ball badly on a relatively helpful track after doing well in the 1st test, a Rahul would be a failure, or a Pandya would win us a game with the ball. Which is why the first step is to optimize the specialist slots 

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7 minutes ago, swastikpanda2 said:

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I would prefer a batting all rounder/ bowling all rounder over a pure all-rounder. 

 

 

A good batsman who can bowl somewhat,  would be ideal.  Problem is ...  we don't have one.   Bigger problem is ... we don't have a good batsman apart from Kohli, in SENA countries.

 

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Going by practice today, it seems like Pandya will be dropped for Jadeja/Vihari! 

 

If we can't chase 200 runs in I4 in 4 occasions in SENA, the team composition is bad. Compare the openers of the two teams, both pairs have failed (except in T3 we had 50+ partnership in both innings by Dhawan/Rahul).  Vijay was dropped for his pair in Lords. 

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3 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

A good batsman who can bowl somewhat,  would be ideal.  Problem is ...  we don't have one.   Bigger problem is ... we don't have a good batsman apart from Kohli, in SENA countries.

 

Since our pacers have stepped up in SENA, isn't it better to strengthen the batting more by having a specialist batsman at #6?

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5 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Since our pacers have stepped up in SENA, isn't it better to strengthen the batting more by having a specialist batsman at #6?

Looks like we will go that way in the fifth test.Did having Pandya in the team have any role in them stepping up,I guess we will see in the next match.

But I suspect our bowling wont have enough teeth and England will rack up 400+ if we play with only 4 bowlers.

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7 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Since our pacers have stepped up in SENA, isn't it better to strengthen the batting more by having a specialist batsman at #6?

 

1 less bowler would mean more overs for each pacer ... this could lead to less intensity from them.

 

Most top bowling sides had part time bowlers who could bowl 8 to 10 overs a day if needed  ... the Waugh brother and later on Symonds, when the Waughs retired, for the great Australian team of 1994 to 2007.   Richards and Larry Gomes for the great West Indian team of 1976 to 1985.

 

Even India usually had someone who could bowl, in the top 7.  Ganguly, Sehwag, Tendulkar, Shastri ... Prabhakar or Bangar when they opened.

 

This Team needs someone in the top 7 who can bowl 8 to 10 overs a day if needed.   

 

A good quality batsman who can do this, is the ideal choice.

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The Test Team is in need of Batsmen.

 

 We need more batsmen who can score runs. The top order 1-3, Middle order 4-7 should be able to score runs everywhere and consistently put 300-400 or more everywhere. In this year,  we lost series in england and in SA primarily because our batsmen are INCAPABLE (with a CAPITAL I) to put runs on the board. Couldn't chase 208 in SA and 191 in England. We could have won series but instead we lost due to our batsmen.

 

The bowlers are fine. Get more batsmen. Drop name sake all rounders Pandya/Ashwin who neither take important wickets and score useful runs when touring overseas and get batsmen. They falter more than they click in overseas conditions.

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How is pandya fluke Innings different than karuna nair 300.

 

Did Karun get as many chances as pandya.

 

I think pandya can fit in only on bouncy aussie tracks provided he bats well like a top 6 batsman. Else as a 5th bowler his batting is too feeble. As folks are stating vijayshankar could be a better lower order test bat .

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