R!TTER Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Mcgrath tends to be overrated in these parts due to his record in India, when in fact the 2004 series win was manufactured by batters and Gillespie. Mcgrath wasn't really that penetrative in Asia, he doesn't even have much of a record in SL. In terms of one man demolition army - Marshall has no parallel, then comes Hadlee and Steyn. I consider Warne to be the bigger genius in that ATG Aus team. zen 1 Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 my top 3 in no order Hadlee,Ambrose, Mcgrath reasons -ATGs in both formats. Great longevity especially in test cricket. Hadlee seems to have a little bit involved in ball tampering from his interviews w.r.t this. But he was an one man army . Link to comment
mishra Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Steyn Donald Walsh Garner Larwood should be in the list too Link to comment
express bowling Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, zen said: Steyn is still playing .... Garner though a candidate is usually not in many ATG 11s .... the poll is from the usual suspects Steyn has played long enough. You need a modern pacer who knows how to bowl to batters with thick bats. Garner was an amazing bowler ... steep bounce with accuracy and averaged 20.x ... can't be ignored. Better than Akram in tests. Link to comment
zen Posted August 8, 2018 Author Share Posted August 8, 2018 Just now, express bowling said: Steyn has played long enough. You need a modern pacer who knows how to bowl to batters with thick bats. Garner was an amazing bowler ... steep bounce with accuracy and averaged 20.x ... can't be ignored. Better than Akram in tests. Ok will add them express bowling 1 Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Id go for Steyn , McGrath and Wasim because he's a left armer. That attack would have variety. You have a guy capable of bowling very quick with the best outswinger ever and a skiddy short ball, a hit the deck seamer of extreme accuracy and a left armer with all three having the ability to reverse the ball - they would a threat throughout a day's play. express bowling 1 Link to comment
raki05 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 1 hour ago, zen said: In ATG Test 11s consisting of retired players, we usually see the pace bowlers from the ones listed in the poll .... who would be your top 3 picks (vote for 3 in the poll) What about PM of Pakistan...he has some 22 avg in test. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
zen Posted August 8, 2018 Author Share Posted August 8, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, raki05 said: What about PM of Pakistan...he has some 22 avg in test. Good option but is usually considered for his AR skills .... Akram could make it to some 11s primarily as a bowler as a left arm quick option Edited August 8, 2018 by zen raki05 and UrmiSinhaRay 2 Link to comment
mishra Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 1 minute ago, raki05 said: What about PM of Pakistan...he has some 22 avg in test. Genesis of ball tampering raki05 and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, zen said: Ok will add them Thanks ! This is Garner bowling ... just look at the steepness of bounce. Mosher, UrmiSinhaRay and zen 1 2 Link to comment
zen Posted August 8, 2018 Author Share Posted August 8, 2018 Just now, express bowling said: Thanks ! This is Garner bowling ... just look at the steepness of bounce. A must in an LOI 11 but usually not among the top 2-3 picks in WI ATG test 11 where the usual suspects are Marshall, Ambrose, Holding, etc UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Went for Marshall, Hadlee, Ambrose. Others were terrific too. If Steyn had bowled on some of those wickets he would be right there in my top 3 as well. UrmiSinhaRay and zen 1 1 Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, tweaker said: Ambrose McGrath & Akram +1. Akram there for subcontinent/swinging conditions and variety. Edited August 8, 2018 by The Dark Horse Link to comment
rkt.india Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Marshall, McGrath, and Steyn. Switchblade 1 Link to comment
zen Posted August 8, 2018 Author Share Posted August 8, 2018 44 minutes ago, rtmohanlal said: my top 3 in no order Hadlee,Ambrose, Mcgrath reasons -ATGs in both formats. Great longevity especially in test cricket. Hadlee seems to have a little bit involved in ball tampering from his interviews w.r.t this. But he was an one man army . This is only for tests Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 46 minutes ago, R!TTER said: Mcgrath tends to be overrated in these parts due to his record in India, when in fact the 2004 series win was manufactured by batters and Gillespie. Mcgrath wasn't really that penetrative in Asia, he doesn't even have much of a record in SL. In terms of one man demolition army - Marshall has no parallel, then comes Hadlee and Steyn. I consider Warne to be the bigger genius in that ATG Aus team. He is behing Steyn, Hadlee and Marshall only in Asia. Link to comment
Brainfade Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Marshall, Ambrose, McGrath. All different types of bowlers - one would kill you with speed and skid, one with steep bounce and one with nagging accuracy and a potty mouth. Marshall is my all-time favorite non-Indian cricketer, bar none. Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 1 hour ago, raki05 said: What about PM of Pakistan...he has some 22 avg in test. people who believe in fair play and ethics can no more take the PM's record as such.Infact he was one of the worst in the business in all its possibility raki05 1 Link to comment
zen Posted August 8, 2018 Author Share Posted August 8, 2018 (edited) If Barnes and Garner do not get votes, I will remove them from the poll as I do not want these greats to be w/o any vote Edited August 8, 2018 by zen Link to comment
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